/fringe/ - Fringe

>>177

where are my maners!

>>177

>>178

Request Granted

>>>/loosh/

You shall have your wish only so long as you also help report any non-compliance with the global rules. If it becomes a problem it will be taken away.

What are some of you guy's experiences on summoning ET's?

Is it possible to make them work for me?

>>180

Depends on whom you wish to contact, and what your request is. What about summoning/evoking a Demon?

http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/DEMONOLATRY.html

Can we have a thread where we revise the library?

Take in, take out, edit a few books and set up a reading order?

>>182

The idea was to have a thread per book of interest in the /library/ – making it easy for people to communicate, share and give feedback in a centralized manner.

I assume what you have in mind is more like a general overview. We could have a sticky for that, but it would require moderation. If this sounds like something you wish to do, then please contact me via Tox (http://tox.chat/)

ID: 4767305CC4CC42FE4437ACFF966156CC37B41A5A9343AF60FDA48FFBABDD6A33170A8AE1E6FB

>>183

no, a discussion with the community regarding what books to propagate, which not to, what to redact from certain books (stuff that can kill) and in which order they should be read to speed up learning.

>>184

For sure, by all means, start one. Lead by example. My advice would be to setup such a thread in the /library/, as its more associated with books, but ultimately its up to you. Its welcome in /fringe/ too.

>>185

will there be an effort taken to move everyone on a set date?

>>186

Smiley has not yet responded to anything regarding fringechan.org, and considering the best approach would be to lock up all the threads on 8ch.net/fringe we might have to take a different approach in pulling in the community. The demand for freedomboard is there, so we hope that within a reasonably short amount of time the migration will take place naturually. This will be accelerated the more quality posts will be placed on fringechan.

We are still trying to contact the existing mods on 8ch/fringe for cooperation.

will you guys still use 8chan's fringe?

>>188

The plan is to force the migration, so no, unless its about fringechan.org related matter/discussion.

How can one continue to be a believer in this supernatural stuff with atheist scientists and leaders debunking these truths left and right? I ask as not a troll, but a concerned spiritualist.

>>190

They are? Most top scientists are religious, maybe not by upbringing, but because they found God through their work.

Max Planck discovered God.

Science today is snailing towards a better understanding of the world, physics, as is, they formulate ideas already discussed to death in centuries old religions and tomes.

Psychology is a most faulty system of magic, and will reach no further without acknowledging that which they deny.

If you want to understand the science of and behind "Magic", learn the law of vibration.

>>190

Are you refering to any specific thing when you say it was debunked? Much of what I see is either the debunking of a scarecrow or falacious argumentation.

>>190

>atheist scientists and leaders debunking these truths left and right

>[citation needed]

>>181

I mean Greys and Reptilians.

Does anyone know anything about mental time travel? When I reach an old age I'd like to send my consciousness back in time to my younger self and live life again in god mode, applying my elderly wisdom and future knowledge.

What should I read/do to be able to accomplish this? Anyone know?

To the board owner, there is a reason I don't use pictures in the question thread, and don't have a reply to the sticky; it means less scrolling to get past them and to the other threads.

You also need to make this board scale properly to 4k.

>>177

No. There should be a designated shitposting thread on /fringe/ itself but no board for it.

Where is /edgy/ and also you should ask the people of /4chon/ if they can have their board over here. It seems like this site could host /4chon/.

We should implement a custom CSS for Fringechan, I personally would like to design such a CSS, we also need to make me an admin and to add my janitors from 8chan back on here, and if possible we should import everything from 8chan's /fringe/ and I might decide to shutdown the 8chan board by locking everything and just putting redirects here if this place is better able to host everything… maybe… we'll see.

Are you going to import all the archived question threads from 8chan /fringe/ here as well? or at least have a list of links to each archive.is question thread?

>you must upload an image

Turn this off.

We should make some massive /fringe/ folder full of images for people to download btw so they have tens of thousands of well sorted images to pick from to post on here.

When getting high off music, am I spending my loosh to feel good, or increasing my loosh by feeling good? You'll probably answer the second is true (if the music is proper) but let me tell you why I'm not entirely sure:

1. I get higher off soulful music than most people I know, and it's a very hedonistic experience.

2. My hands always shake slightly all day and others pointed that out. It's something that addicts, alcoholics, gamblers have after overstimulating themselves with dopamine rushes.

3. After getting high off music for an hour I start to get tired from pleasure. I start to have a significant crash. I must be using up… something.

4. I can feel my energy body move rapidly under skin on my frontal lobe. Is it normal? I can't be feeling my neurons firing, right? In one place on the right hemisphere of frontal lobe I sometimes even feel a needle sting.

I'm going to read these texts and report what I find if I find anything. Until then, please comment. Also if you have something different that:

Music and the Power of Sound – Alain Daniélou

The Secret Power of Music – David Tame

The Inner Nature of Music and the Experience of Tone – Rudolf Steiner

The Occult Basis of Music – Rudolf Steiner

Outer Streams, Metaphysics of Music – Dr. Nelson Harrison

>>215

>>212

>>213

Wow, the autism, kill this retard, kill him with a swift knife incision to the neck.

I vote for a board free of retarded smileberg!

>>219

>not being immensely grateful for everything fringe wizard has accomplished

>>220

>implying u ain't a samefag

Hi guys, i'm really new to esoteric/wizardry things and i want to start my new way of life. (i'm 21 now)

I'm actually on a deep depression for about 1 year, was searching on the chan yday for something to change my life and found this.

I just want to ask, what's the first step that you guys recommend to me to get out of this depression? I fell so empty…

Also, i want to write a journal about my progression and maybe post it when i feel confortable, i'm trusting that if i walk this path my life will change :)

>>223

>inb4 tor and "this poster is not me!"

We know your ways kummy kenny.

>>219

Thanks for the loosh mundane.

>>224

lrn2RajaYoga and then you can operate upon your mental and physical bodies through the power of spirit (awareness and will)

See: Arcane Formulas, Raja Yoga, Personal Power, Void Meditation

>>225

lol butthurt sandnigger

>>227

What do you mean by operate on your physical bodies?

changing emotional states is pretty basic

>>227

What about The Kybalion for the first book?

>>231

Just read everything in the FAQ in the order suggested if indeed you are serious about this path.

I was just throwing out some stuff that might have the strongest effect in addressing your specific concern (depression).

>>180

Read Chasing Phantoms before you do that and prepare to get fucked over but also taken on a thrill ride of immense possibility.

>>232

Have you fixed your own depression with these methods?

>>232

I'm being serious. I tried to learn so many things my whole life but nothing already filled my soul yet. I think that this is what i need.

Also, the other guy above is not me

>>179

Is there any way at all for you to make this site scale to 4k?

>>234

I fixed my own depression via understanding the true metaphysics of the universe, bearing witness to miracles, advancing my own understanding and power in every way, and mastering control of sex-energy.

My depression began in the first place as a direct result of a lack of understanding and being impressed by the seeming authority of the materialists, being a nihilist, etc.

Now after years of study I can't take them seriously at all and I see where their scepticism falls short.

Anyways, although I fixed the original cause of my depression, all the years of depression left its imprint upon my body.

I am succeeding in eradicating that as well. The process is not finished but it's gaining momentum lately and hopefully very soon I will also have someone else working with me, so I can do all the stuff in magick that requires second person.

>>213

We're working on the CSS. Also taking the alpha'd Favicon too.

>>215

As far as importing more threads, we can't do it and keep images. Hence the limited manual import of the really good ones.

>OP Image

It's called an imageboard for a reason. They should at least put some thought and effort into in.

>>236

We'll see.

>>219

I agree. Let that retard post but don't give him any power.

can paimon influence somebody i know to love me?

which goetic demon is best for love?

>>271

>can paimon influence somebody i know to love me?

>which goetic demon is best for love?

Its best to avoid the geotic demons at your level of spiritual advancement. Improper use of a demon can cause trouble for yourself.

And using a entity to get someone to love you will not solve the issue.

It would be better for yourself to either:

#1 Learn magick and advance yourself and forget about that person.

#2 Create a basic sigil of finding your true soulmate and waiting for it to work.

If you decide to go upon the route you are choosing you may not get very desirable circumstances.

What do you guys think about Chaos Magick?

On one hand it covers the same basic principles of meditation, gnosis, sigils, servitors, etc.

On the other hand it's completely acceptable to summon Spock, Han Solo or Sonic the Hedgehog.

I have some knowledge of it.

Would it be productive if made a thread about it similar to the existing big text threads?

>>276

It's good for beginners, considering fictional characters are pretty much thoughtforms I see no wrong in trying to summon them, if I am wrong explain why

>>276

Chaos magick is actually the most subversive and powerful magic there is when it comes to physical reality. It's also the reason why many wizards quickly denounce it - because it's the path to absolute anarchy. Imagine what physical world would be like if people stopped romanticizing and mystifying spirituality, and realized The Rarest Pepe (god of ironic detachment) or Red Bull brand logo are more powerful gods than Jesus, Ra, whatever. I don't think it's going to happen though, because post-modernism didn't affect people to the core. It made people joke about everything, but it's just an act they put on to sell products. Deep down they're mundanely scared of their social image or Muslims blowing up. People don't fully embrace implications of meme theory, and perhaps it's good, because otherwise planes would crash with no survivors every day

>>279

It's actually not the case, and people denounce it not because of that, but because it's essentially just visualizing a preffered outcome and getting it and it stops there, people who know better move on to something more powerful

>>280

From what i read, it is encouraged from chaos books themselves to look for other systems after studying chaos.

There is even an exercise where you roll a dice to decide what you are going to belive that week.

So i suppose that, like >>278 said, it is good for begginers, probably better than hermeticism.

>>285

isn't hermeticism just philosophy?

>>286

Hermeticism is more of a way at looking at magick. It takes a more scientific view with easily repeatable results.

Some common books are: Kybalion, Arcane Teachings, Arcane Formulas, and also a lot of books from Franz Bardon.

Hermentiscim could also be commonly associated with more 'armchair' wizards, but its really just how you use it.

>>325

>Does God not influence your freewill, even slightly?

Depends on what you mean by "God".

If you mean the ultimate creator of the universe, then we all are that being. It would be impossible for it to directly change our actions.

If you mean the monetheistic Yahweh, then indirecly yes.

>If I were to attempt to manifest success in business, would it not come through the influenced actions of others?

It depends on you intentions, the ritual and the entity you are work(if any).

Most of the times, for a generic "bring sucess" intention, you only manipulate your own actions the circuntances other people have to face to make decisions.(not directly their freewill)

For example on a clothing store, you could make yourself a better salesperson. Or on a restaurant the wind would be more likely to bring food smell to passerbys.

You don't manipualte the freewill of others unless you intentionaly try to.

>If so, what force influences another individual beyond my sight, besides God?

>If not, would the change commence through my own influenced decisions and actions alone? Pic related.

Any sentient being manifesting intent, even uncunciously, can manipulate freewill.

As i said earlier, usually all that is changed is your own actions and the circunstances

>>325

>old man in the sky type god

>real

top jej

>>329

>Old man in the sky

Not exactly what I meant…

Something like one man's will (strong, defined) directly influencing the freewill of some others ( weak, scattered ) through the Universe / God / All / <your term here> - in ways outside of the man's physical decisions and actions. Things 'coming together' so that your affirmations and dreams can be lived.

>>261

Thanks for the response!

>Why not just be(come) immortal?

That sounds nice too. But I really like the idea of time travel. It's something I've wanted to do my entire life.

Thanks for the links!

>what is your actual goal here?

I do want to explore the 4th dimension and get to know how exactly it works. I want to go to my own new timeline and relive moments that were great already the first time through and make better decisions in other moments, regarding money and success. So I suppose ultimately my goal is power. Ideally my super power would be time travel.

I've been trying to do void meditation for the last two weeks and I don't seem to be getting anywhere. I have almost no thoughts floating around in my head during waking life so clearing my mind isn't the issue. Is there something else I could be doing wrong?

>>261

>Well what is your goal?

I want to know how to utilize the emotional energy that fills me when I listen to music. If I were aware of mechanics of it, I could manifest things with it, because I know it's powerful.

I know about sigils or thoughtforms and I had success with them already. The thing is, I can make these without music, using my subtle body energy, and they work the same.

Emotion from musical trance is something else. It's hundred times more powerful, but I don't know how to "take it" and use it. I just feel emotion, and through the act of feeling it, the emotional energy disperses into air or somewhere else, no idea. Perhaps vibing to higher frequencies makes me an optimist in general or makes my body look healthy, but otherwise most of it disperses.

When I go to huge event, party concert, movie in theatre, I can sometimes feel element of this energy in the air. People emanate it when the crowd yells. The energy here is just more crude here than my own when I experiment at home

I tried storing it in lower dan tien, but I feel it only works for chi pressure, which is a completely different thing, it just overlaps with the emotional one a bit

>>342

I expect you will answer smth like I should visualize a link between my head and a thoughtform when getting high off emotion during musical trance, and pass the emotional energy to the thoughtform. I tried things like that, but whether I visualize such thing with music or without, it's the same. The material I create thoughtform with is something like Intention or Imagination, I don't know. The thoughtform is emotionless, there is never a transfer of emotion anywhere. Emotion during my musical trance has separate channels or orbit around me and I have no control of these

>>343

> Emotion during my musical trance has separate channels

*I only suspect it has channels at all. It doesn't feel transferable, it just is. Perhaps emotion is a state of mind, not energy. You can't transfer eg. alpha brainwaves or theta brainwaves, they just are…. I don't what to think about it

How to get an absurd amount of extra loosh or power for a ritual?

Can just add a drop of blood to my own sigils to make the stronger?

How is maturbation related to losing loosh?

How can i get an absurd amount of loosh?

>>348

>How to get an absurd amount of extra loosh or power for a ritual?

You can ask for help from God, or another created entity, gather it from your environment, cultivation of energy is also good.

>Can just add a drop of blood to my own sigils to make the stronger?

Of course you could. And it would work.

>How is maturbation related to losing loosh?

You are wasting, not only the physical sperm, but also quite a lot of aetheric and astral energy. The orgasm? All that energy is what is leaving you (if you're a male).

>>350

Thank you for these two words

>reverberate

>tuning fork

I'm going to meditate on them.

Your descriptions are of great help and don't get me wrong, but all I read here and in occult books is hopelessly general. Metaphor of tuning fork is great, that's right, we have to FIND PATTERNS, and then incorporate them in trance, energy work etc.

I wonder what device is there that I could touch and feel my whole body vibrate. I need to experience this once to know how it feels like, it would help so much. I'm actually going to sneak into some factory or something and touch big vibrating machines there

>>357

Why not just say om really loud ?

>>357

Another fun thing is to go to a natural science museum and see the massive crystal displays. Sometimes they are bigger than cars, and the energy they give off… It's quite an interesting experience.

Also I second >>358

Auming/Ohming can be quite powerful if you get the tone right and do it for awhile.

Can I create an independent tulpa that has more energy than what i used to create it?

Then when I absorve it have more energy and power than before?

>>360

>Can I create an independent tulpa that has more energy than what i used to create it?

It theory, but unless it was a loosh farming tulpa it may take a large initial investment if you want to actually make a godform.

>Then when I absorve it have more energy and power than before?

Yes, but be aware it may fight you, and that may not be so easy. So I would suggest cooperating with it for once it's energetically independent it can sever it self from you in an act of defiance because it won't necessary result in it's demise.

Can I will myself into a hot chick?

>>368

>What are some methods that /fringe/ has used to permanently alter the psychical form?

Through affirmation (mostly) and a little visualization I've changed the color of my hair.

>I'm wondering what methods might be more effective.

I, personally, can sense the alterations in my energy field/aura more strongly when I visualize or otherwise engage as many senses in it's creation/manifestation as possible.

So feel how it would feel to be, what ever, it is your manifesting, whether it's having a 6 pack or a your shoulder being pain free. This should help.

P.S. Pretty pic.

>>370

>Through affirmation (mostly) and a little visualization I've changed the color of my hair.

Can I use the same to turn myself into a grill? :^)

Seriously though, i wanna turn myself into a chick for keks.

>>377

>Can I use the same to turn myself into a grill? :^)

Yes, but it won't be easy.

>Seriously though, i wanna turn myself into a chick for keks.

Unless keks can sustain you for years, they won't cut it.

>>378

Alright, how hard could it possibly be?

>>370

>I've changed the color of my hair.

How big of a color change was it?

>>367

>>377

I know you're joking, but this guide on 8/fringe/ looks decent:

https://8ch.net/fringe/res/58020.html

https://archive.is/WAfWF (archive link in case the thread 404's or 8chan dies)

Realistically though, the guide is best for a woman to train herself to become more feminine and a man to train himself to become more masculine.

Changing your biology THAT much sounds almost as difficult as my time travel goal.

>>334

Thanks again for all your help. I started watching that YouTube series. Great stuff. I'll come back in case I have more questions about it.

(Are you the owner of fringechan? I see that Montalk flag everywhere here and the same flag advertising fringechan on 8ch. If so, do you have a nickname like Hotwheels or Moot or Smiley?)

>>380

I am joking and I am not.

>>378

I dunno, I think I could generate a lot of keks.

>>>/ask/6

I posted a list of all the archived question threads from 8/fringe/ in case you guys are interested in perusing through some old threads to see if your question was already answered.

>>379

AP first…

>>358

>Why not just say om really loud ?

Thank you for the idea.

I'm doing phD in linguistics and yesterday out of blue I had labolatory class on measuring qualities like vibration in recorded samples of voice.

Is there some specific value you recommend me to look for in my omms? If not I'm just going to experiment in general by sustaining one frequency for 10 minutes. Perhaps you guys are part of synchronicity guiding my desire so if you have any propositions, go ahead

>>386

Thanks for the advice.

I've been meditating a bit more than usual lately and one of the results has been a better ability to remember my dreams. I've noticed that a recurring theme is encountering a monster/animal that terrifies me and running away from/ or hiding from it. It's a different monster each time; recently I've ran shit scared from a boar with two heads, a bear, a plague infested zombie, a demonic crab, and a jaguar. Usually I run away until it gets too close, panic and then wake up.

My goal is to become lucid in one of these dreams and confront the creature or at least show no fear of it. My questions are:

Are there any techniques to help sustain lucidity in dreams? I've become lucid numerous times in the past but always just woken up right away.

If I do manage to remain lucid and asleep, how would you recommend I approach the creature? Should I attack it? Talk to it? Banish it? Ignore it? Give it a hug? What would you do?

On the morning of 9/11 at about 7:30 AM I distinctly remember thinking to myself, "I bet something big is going to happen today at about 8:50 AM." I never made random vague predictions like that. It was unusual.

Now that I've discovered /fringe/ I want to finally learn more. What was that? Do big events send shockwaves or ripples back in time and people who are sensitive to whatever this force is can pick up on it? How can I harness this skill or ability and train it to be more useful?

Any spells/sigils for gaining money/influencing money to come to you? It's materialism, but I really need it to stock up, move, and go vegan before shit goes down.

>>444

It looks like you just have the wrong approach to your goals.

If you still want money then a simple sigil for getting money is to fill out a job application.

>>446

I've been trying that for a while now, and it just ain't enough cash for me to do even one of those simple things. Hell any job I've done is so shitty it ain't worth the little pay and time it cuts from me.

>>447

Working a minimum wage job part time gives more than enough for all of those things you want. Like I said it looks like you have the wrong approach to your goal.

If you can't find even a basic job then you have more important things to worry about and could probably go on some kind of welfare.

how do I make someone I know over the internet in love and obsessed with me?!

>>467

By learning magick.

Seriously, just create a sigil and masturbate onto/into it everyday.

>>467

This was posted last time. I have given it a read, seemed pretty good. >>>/library/37

Otherwise I would use general reality manifestation or crystallizing your intent in a sigil or a spell works too if you need something to focus on.

Does anyone have information on the occult properties of gems?

Christianity has saved me from depression. I found new meaning to life which is maintaining an everlasting bond and connection with the Creator, which is achieved by avoiding sin. But magic is sin. But i still want to learn magic. Im afraid my depression will come back because then i will lose meaning if i take on the /fringe/ belief system. Fringe says the meaning of life is to grow and become more powerful, but that seems egoistic.

So what do?

>>480

I thought "sin" in the christian sense just meant disobeying the will of god, which in general lines is just being good to other people and encouraging love and compassion.

I don't think all magic goes against the christian version of God, if you think about Jesus you could say he used a form of magic, and he even gave it to his disciples , didn't he give his disciples power to expel demons? He said the only reason why some of them couldn't do it was because they lacked faith.

>the meaning of life is to grow and become more powerful

Being more powerful also means you can protect more people, you could use that approach

>>484

Thanks man.

>>442

Dream journal. Most powerful one is called reality checking. Make a habit out of looking at your hands and seeing if there are 5 fingers. If so, you're awake. You never have 5 fingers in a dream for some reason. But eventually after integrating this into your life multiple times a day for a few weeks, you will start doing it subconsciously as well. So you will automatically reality check in some dreams.

Hey fringe

yesterday I tried to do some qi energy work, so I started standing with my legs wide than my shoulders, and hands making a line of 180 degrees and parallel with the floor (like in Da Vinci's drawing of a human). Then I felt a flow through my spine, but it didn't went further down my legs and higher than my neck. So I remember something from my martial arts and went with my hands from my chest area down to my groin and back up to my neck. I felt this flow of energy go to my feet and back up to my head.

Point is, what can I do with this and what was this? was it qi?

New board, new reading list?

We really need to sort the junk out and get some good stuff in.

>>492

The reading list is always updated, revised, new stuff added, shit-tier stuff removed.

It's fine as it is although feel free to bring new books to my attention that should go into my library.

You act like junk isn't constantly sorted out, at least from the main library.

>>476

There are 2 books that come highly recommended from nearly every one I've talked to. "Love Is In The Earth" by Melody & "The Crystal Bible" by Judy Hall.

I've done some preliminary lookings for the files, no luck thus far. You can check out >>>/library/ maybe they are in there or some other books on the subject are.

I'll check more later, but in the mean time try just searching for "[stone/mineral/crystal name] + metaphysic(al)" in your favorite search engine.

>>495

Brahman is. Not Brahma, that's just the creation principle.

Say I accidently self-initiated myself into an unknown collective with the aid of a synthetic drug. It wasn't on purpose, I was just having a nice binge which ended up forcing me to turn serious about magic. I just stuck with the drug because it kept opening up my energy pathways, and even let me create a psiball so strong my energy-sensitive roommate at the time felt its presence. It was so strong in fact he felt me "asserting myself" which scared the shit out of him because of my inflated ego at the time. I actually saw the energy around me at the time with crystal clear perception. My whole body had a red glowing shade to it while his had a blue shade, the funny thing too is that he was on shrooms at the time(synthetic red vs natural blue). I saw the psiball and the energy current from my palms in perfect detail.

Since the moment of initiation I've had swollen lymph nodes that respond to my state of health, swelling more when Im starting to get sick and less when Im healthy. But when I go without it for a couple months they start to go crazy and I get sick.

The drug doesn't really have any long term health effects so Im not worried about that as an issue. Im just wondering more about this initiation and collective part of the experience. My HGA will not help me at all, just kinda jokes around but never gives me a solid answer. All readings or divination done on me result in vague answers or new age sounding bullshit lile "this is supposed to be happening". Never has a reasing ever broken this pattern despite the medium being used.

Recently went through a period where my new phone was glitchy and then my already glitchy computer completely fried itself. Im finally getting a new laptop to continue my studies but I'm just confused as to where to go from here. Anyone got any ideas or heard of anything like this?

>>514

Don't get too attached on the drug, it might hinder results for when you don't have it.

Try the following, Its called energy cylinder vortex(or somenthing). and is an altenate method for activating sigils, but i am curious of what happens if you use it.

>Draw a simple circle anywhere.

>Visualize strong white lights coming from yourself to the circle and turning clockwise as if a vortex was pulling the light spots.

>Tell me what happens then

>>466

Moneyfag here, thanks a ton for the insight, but that website doesn't wanna work for me. Can you upload it somewhere else please?

>>521

http://web.archive.org/web/20150418055251/http://home.comcast.net/~max555/book/Sigils.html

When I lay to sleep at night my forehead is tingling so hard I almost feel my head being forcibly pushed into the bed. Sometimes this energetic tingling radiates into top of my skull but there's nothing special about it, except it being extremely strong (although not unpleasant. it reminds me of sensation of having a boner, except not sexual and on my forehead instead of in my pants).

When I meditate in this state I don't feel or see anything special. I understand it's merely my pineal gland producing melatonin because it realized it's time to sleep.

In the past I hoped something good is happening and that it was related to my fluoride-free diet. Half an year, tingling is still there every night, but nothing comes out of it. Is there any special procedure I could try when I feel the tingling? Do I ignore it and let it develop on its own? Or perhaps focus on it with all my might? I tried imagining spinning there, sweeping, touching it, scratching, even doing head-stands, getting into emotional trance, employed Bruce's energy body instructions… but I can't really pin it down.

It actually started tingling a bit during writing this post.

>>528

I wanted to describe my situation in depth but I'm just going to cut that and go straight to the obstacle that I think is limiting me:

I'm hopelessly trying to get into trance in awake state. I can hold mind with no thoughts on a candle, point or whatever, but after some time my eyes automatically "change focus". It's like a blockage that stops me from falling deeper into trance. My eyes don't want to keep still on one place, they automatically shift its attention so slightly and ruin it. It's not that my eyes are moving as if I had dementia. It's more like, shift of the focus happening on the level of peripheral vision.

This might come up as a really mundane question, but I'm just starting in all if this…

I've seen many banishing rituals, and some of them seem so complex, like Gold Dawn's or Bearheart's Ritual. Yet, others look very simple and straight to the point, like many of the Chaos Magic rituals. My question is, what can you get out of a complex ritual, full of words of power and diferent visualizations, instead of simples rituals like the one in Liber Null?

>inb4 Chaos Magic is for lows exdi

>>532

The LBRP (Lesser banishing ritual of the pentagram) is pretty simple to get into and remember. There is also the NBRP (New Banishing Ritual of the Pentagram) if you prefer something different.

>>534

I don't know If you actually understood what I meant, but I'm aware of those and many other Banishing rituais. What I mean is, what's diferent between a "complex" ritual like the normal LBRP, or many of the other more minimalistic rituals, involving just simples visualizations? Do they gain more power with adding Word of Power and evoking Angels and stuff?

Thank you for your time anyway kind anon

>>536

The universe is mind. Its all about getting into the mindset of that you are doing truly works. The more belief you have, the more power you have.

>>537

any tips on how to accomplish this?

>>539

Not the same anon but it is all up to you how you reach that goal.

Do you believe that a simple thought of banishing will work? Then yes it will work.

Do you believe that a complex ritual will banish something? Then yes it will work.

That there are already banishing rituals out there gives them more power in a way.

Think of it as confirmation bias where you think it works better because other people are doing it. So then it works better for you than some ritual you made up.

>>514

What drug is this?

Are there any good guided meditations with a focus on magick?

>>547

http://fringechan.org/fringe/res/3.html

Meditation thread.

The Visualizaton, Single Point focus, and Quiet Mind meditations are among the best basic ones

>>532

>>536

One specific benefit of a longer and more complicated ritual is that it gives you time to build power, which a simpler ritual does not.

Try the LBRP in the astral. You'll feel the power fill you more and more with each new word and gesture, to the point that it rips through the air at the end and can outright destroy any entity you direct it towards.

Also when will this board have https?

>>567

>Now, do they arise because I desire some outcome or are those guidances by my higher self or whatever?

It's probably a bit of both but it could solely be one or one or the other.

>On the other hand, I don't really desire the outcome of such petty things, so that would be an indicator of a higher force trying to impose some destiny upon me.

It's just reality trying to work together in a harmonic way.

>Am I creating them (my destiny) or are they (my destiny) created for me?

Your higherself has laid out a path it wanted you to walk because it believes you will make good productive growth on it. As you possess freewill, you can fight it with enough effort and energy. But you have to ask yourself, is it worth all the effort?

>>573

Oh, forgot to add in the last paragraph:

It's not really an effort to dodge these premade ways, that's the scary thing. You can slip so easily from the path that was laid out for you implying that the presentiments are guidance from the higher self

I do it all the time and regret it afterwards. Like the example with the door bell, remember? I keep lying around in bed and the the door bell really does sound, so I end up in a hassle to get dressed, mad about not listening :–D

It even seems that catching those presentiments and following them requires more effort than dodging them

>>573

>So I can't really see whether it comes from me or my higher self if it's from either of the sources.

The way you can tell is by careful, meticulous self observation you can tell what you manifested and what was not a direct result from the vibration you emanated.

>They are usually helpful, but where are they helping me to get?

To your destiny.

>Is it really my higher self's interest or am I being misled and deceived?

It may be your higherself, but there are also other influences too, you/your higherself aren't the only beings in this co-created universe.

>I just need clarity about where the train goes man…

Sometimes you just need to have faith.

>I mean, would you jump on a train whose destination you don't know about?

Not all those who wander are lost. - J. R. R. Tolkien

Sometimes you just need to seek to find.

Who else would rather stay here than go back to 8ch/fringe? This place feels more mature.

>>582

reasons I don't like 8ch fringe :

>Too much content at one place and too much shit content

>Mega fucked up css and style

>Smileyberg the dick cutter

>8chan is just … its not the best idea.

>>582

I'm loving fringechan

It kind of feels like 8chan /pol/ did after the 1st exodus from 4chan i.e. less shitposting & higher post quality (almost as if we're leaving behind the crud…)

I also agree with >>583

the css on 8ch/fringe/ is pure cancer. I don't care if some people prefer it & choose to set it as their global style, I just don't want to deal with it when browsing an old /fringe/ thread through archive.is or the wayback machine.

lastly I agree with >>584

having separate boards, being able to make software changes to suit our need, and isolation from mundane who happen to stumble across /fringe/ makes fringechan superior to 8chan /fringe/

>>582

Fringechan is better because:

#1 More organized. (specific topics have their own board, along with shitposting, and keeps topics contained and clean. This was strangely frowned upon on 8/fringe/ for some reason.)

#2 Negative atmosphere. (The change over from freedomboard to 8chan could be felt very differently. The whole 8chan site has the negative chan culture around it and it greatly effected the content.)

#3 More controlled. (Less shitposting, ect.)

#4 Magick wizard protection.

#5 Feels like home. (Comfy.)

>>590

>>589

Thank you for bringing this to our attention. We'll get on it

Could there be astral spies or astral probes? APd for the first time the other day (that I know of) and there was this small black orb cylindrical thing following me around and I had to banish it

>>596

>Could there be astral spies or astral probes?

Yes. They could be actual beings, but they could also just be servitor-tulpa level constructs as well.

>>596

What method did you use to project?

>>580

Thank you, but the answers are really too objective for me.

I guess I'll just have to keep practicing.

>>442

My mother had the exact same thing. What happened with her is when she turned to face the creature she woke up and never had the dream again.

>>615

I think you mean subjective?

Yeah, "keep doing and improving" is the answer to everything. It's a grind, a journey, wonderful or meticulous depending on which stage you are at/how you see it

>>601

Didn't use a method, just sort of accidently happened. I rode out the vibrations and tried to open my eyes and looked out my window and saw it. I banished it but I couldn't exit my body so I just drifted to sleep.

>>624

what does a cyber mage do?

I managed to make my phone gps work a lot better than it usually does by merging energy fields with it and doing what it should do (send/receive to space) but that only worked one time.

>>567

>>573

It's literally your own sensory organs. Your own organs tell you the door bell is about to ring and you get a 'presentiment' because you wish to respond to a door bell, but you're not consciously aware of the sensation itself. Stop being so afraid.

>>623

>I think you mean subjective?

Nope. By stating all the possibilities objectively, I don't get an answer that is exactly tailored to my situation and thus it's not helpful to me.

But that's okay because how can one expect a tailored answer over the internet anyway? I just gave it a try though.

>>630

I usually get the doorbell feel 20 mins before, so it's obviously not my sensory organs, fuck you.

318 follows me everywhere and anything I find on the number is complete newage bullshit. Only thing useful Ive found is that it relates to Saturn and time. Anyone care to help?

Can we stop blocking Tor posts?

I know I probably going to sound like a total Neophyte, but fuck it

Can someone explain to me if there is a objective difference between a "spiritual guide, or master" that appears to you during the course of your life (like in my case) and a tulpa? I mean, I know a tulpa can be pretty much anything mind related, and since our minds can create anything, they are real in that sense, but is there a difference between the two?

>>651

I've fixed this issue now. Also, all CloudFlare functionality has been disabled. You should be able to post normally now.

>>624

Flag added, also added 2 more flags as well, Ankh & Succubus

>>663

>>663

>>590

Should be fixed now.

How can I keep my memories after reincarnation?

>>667

Interesting, it kinda sounds similar to a religion in my country

(insert shitty third world country here) where they claim to have the "orixas" which are high level spiritual entities directly related to god, and theres is also other spiritual entities, some of then are literally called "old nigger", they also have others called "exu",and others types entities with weird names that represent different types of the human archetype. So I guess in that way the Orixas are like first order beings, and the other spiritual entities are second order beings.

Anyway, I'm still trying to understand my "spiritual guild" (though I think there is more then one) Maybe later I can try to understand and create a tulpa, and see if how much of difference there is between the two.

And thanks for the help, man.

>>669

You keep the spiritual lessons that you have internalized. They are stored in your higherself/spirit. In the next life you will have a 'shadow memory' of all the past lessons you've learned and you will learn/remember them very easy if you aren't just born knowing them.

If you mean a perfect memory of every little detail of your life as you possess now. You have to be(come) immortal for that. Or use a STS work around such as a phylactery. Or you could do past life meditations or regressions and try to recover them as well.

>>665

Succubus flag is hardly viewable. I sugggest replacing it with another image. Search for "succubus sprite" or something.

Please remove that ugly Anonymous flag… If you want Anyonymous add the green man in a suit, not Epic Fail Guy/Guy Fawkes…

>>678

Just pick a random flag instead.

>>654

Thanks much

I got a bag full of vitamins "stolen" by leaving it outside to dry.

Is there a way I can get it back?

I was thinking ask the ether for a suitable being (I don't hear much of anything, but feel responses sometimes from who-knows-what)

and maybe offering a drop of blood before and after. I have no idea how to offer it but assumed spilling it somewhere would do, maybe on paper and lighting it on fire.

I don't always remember my dreams, but from the ones I remember there I always seem to be running or hiding from something or someone, but that something is so vague that I can't even begin to comprehend what it could be. Could this have occult significance or just a manifestation of psychological problems?

>>696

>>696

>Why the quotes? Where expecting it to be taken?

nah but I left em outside to dry and I feel I should have suspected that as a possibility and not done that so I feel

>>698

>or

both

Can someone tell me whom Jesus really was?

>>701

>>701

No but I presume he was jewish

>>702

He was Aryan no doubt. Jews are not human.

How important is physical yoga? What's the best book/guide/site on Hatha Yoga? Reading through WWA's book on it and I haven't learned any stretches but I learned a few more facts on prana and benefits of conscious eating.

>>701

http://see_the_truth.webs.com/Jesus_Christ.htm

Are mainstream monotheistic religions (any type of christianity, islam) a scam in the spiritual sense? As in, doesn't concentrating emotional power on some entity (be it jesus or mohammed) basically mean giving some dude crazy amounts of loosh? Are they farming humans for loosh?

>>707

>Joy of Satan tier color scheme

>Starts shilling for Joy of Satan halfway through

Yah, nah

It seems like the most important thing for a wizard, especially starting out is to deconstruct his beliefs about the world, atleast from what I've read so far, it looks like you need to be 100% convinced what you're doing is going to work for it to work, how should one go about doing this?

>>714

The way I did it when I started with occultism is, that whenever I noticed that I wanted to remove a pre-existing notion or concept from my mind is, focus on it, then visualize a wrench and 'feel' that you are actively unscrewing said thought. Anything basically that symbolizes you actively purging said thought or notion. For me, unscrewing it with a wrench did the trick. Hope that helps.

Can you folks (neophytes/initiates) give me an example of the cool magick stuff you can do? Knowledge alone would still probably be enough for me, but it is nice to have more motivation.

>>715

thanks, will try it out

>>716

A better question would be; what not? As everything is mind, we are essentially living a dream. A shared dream, woven by all beings, together, simeltaniously, without beginning or end. Really, there isn't anything you cannot do.

>>717

I should mention that you should focus on 'feeling' it work. You must feel it throughout every corner of your conscious experience of reality. After the act of unscrewing, or another symbolic representation you might've come up with, you must 'feel' that it worked. Essentially, you are reprogramming the mind. That's what it boils down to.

>>718

Right, thanks again, why I really figured I need to do this now is because my thoughtforms are lacking punch, and I regularily observe myself doubting if my magick will really work or not

>>719

Why not work with affirmations (perhaps even daily until your issue is solved)?

"My magick is going to work without fail."

Repeat that when you are in a trance-y state, as then it will eventually take root in your subconsciousness. A form of self-hypnosis. Program yourself. You, as a soul, are the one who is in control above all conscious proccesses of your being, thereby you decide how you organize your mindscape. See your brain and its functions as a computer, and you the Soul as the user.

>>720

"My magick is working without fail" – my bad. Not 'going to', as you are programming the present.

I'm depressed guys, why does the anti-white propaganda get pushed so much and why are so many white people blind to this? It's common sense

>>718

Well, I've read the Kybalion and there it said that while everything may be mind, it is mind of The All, not mine or yours (even though we're part of the all, kinda). Thus, its phenomena are very real and so (to anyone but The All) are the laws which The All forces upon us. So I'm just wondering about specific examples of what kind of laws you're able to circumvent.

>>720

It's weird I never thought about doing it this way yet tbh, I'll try making a thoughtform/servitor and then enter a trance and repeat "My thoughtform is doing it's task"

Do online tarots work?

How about offline tarot software?

How do I access the akashic records? Could I learn the details of this vessels future death from there? What substances could I injest to make my minds eye more vivid?

If one can become immortal, as so implied here, then how is it done? Does one become immortal in the sense of having one's cells fail to die of age? Can it be done so as to have a dead body, but one controlled entirely by your will and fueled by an external source? In a similar line of thought, does it come with a degradation of the mind as available memory space decreases, however slowly (there are admittedly enough possible connections between neurons to ensure good memory for centuries, which is more than enough time for me), or some kind of change that leads to a shift further into the realm of hylics rather than a spiritual and mental existence?

>>515

Sorry for the long wait, I've been delving deeper into the drug state recently to see what happens to my "abilities". Just tried the technique on an empty circle. Almost seems to pull me into a trance, the circle itself glows a little bit but I get that when charging other sigils. But I also got a visual of an inner and outer circle powering up that I did not draw. It's still charged as I'm typing this. I've always had weird phenomena with sigils personally too. I made a sigil grid on a paper plate and gave it to a friend and it was still pumping out power months later. I had even half assed it.

>544

Dextromethorphan. Although the state I reached when I joined whatever collective I initiated into was more akin to a salvia trip. As if I had reached salvia space through triggering specific neuron connections, but instead of staying for a couple minutes I was there lucidly for say, 30 minutes maybe? Still trying to figure out exactly how to get back there but I haven't had the same amount of time I used to when I first breached into it.

>>737

>>544

totally didn't put in the 2nd one…

>>671

What info could you share on immortality? Also thank you for your many thorough answers. You are a big help.

>>732

Get familiar with astral projection. Then read this.

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/astral_dynamics/astral_dynamics29.htm

>>744

Once you are able to let all limitations go, your primary task is to regenerate your body ad infinitum. This is most simply done by keeping a certain minimum level of loosh within oneself.

How you get said loosh is up to you, there are multitudes of ways. How much you need fight yourself due to having a flesh that decays at an accelerated rate due to lack of care is up to you, I suggest you do not make your task harder than it need be.

Immortality is not complex, au contraire it is quite simple. However simple does not necessarily mean easy.

Can make a magick to permanently increase my magickal power? How?

If so can I loop it to exponentialy increase magickal power?

>758

this strikes me as trying to plug a power strip into itself for unlimited power.

>if it were that easy wouldnt the game be over

mb there is an STS-based method, minus looping

>>523

>>528

Definitely 3rd eye but I don't think that's it opening (likely would've already seen stuff if that was the case). It's likely just a build up of energy there. Try visualising channeling it out around your body etc.

Don't force it open whatever you do

Im a Christian, and i asked this question already, but i still have some trouble understanding stuff. I've learned that the actual goal and purpose of Christianity is theosis - to become like God, because God has made us in his image, so we are Gods by grace while God is God by nature. So Adam wanted to become God, but not in the right way. The right way, according to Christianity, is achieving virtues and renouncing sin. The apple could represent occult teachings.

So i think meditation and astral projection are sins. I don't think it's the pathway to becoming like God. When i want to sit and try out meditation, it seems wrong. I get the feeling it's something bad. Just to clarify, we can't be God, but we can be like him, so trying to achieve telekinesis and wonder-work is kind of meaningless to me. Thoughts?

>>772

Do you honestly feel astral projection brings you closer to the All?

>>772

And do you feel spending some time with your parents brings you closer to the All instead of jerking off on fringe?

>>777

> how else would you presume you become (like) God then? Just keep in mind, to become like God, we would need to have access and the ability to use, in as much detail as God did/does, all the creative-manifestative powers of God. How else other than expanding your consciousness, your awareness, into-upon all that is (including God) would this be achieved?

Pray our Lord and savior Cheesucks, our only hope!

>>781

The problem I have with this approach is it removes the personal responsibility for growth, which God has given to you and put on your shoulders by the imbuation of freewill.

>>777

nice get, what does that pic mean though?

>>789

>What is reverse image search

Here, but next time use tineye.com

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_of_Days

tl;dr it's a representation of the creator, the architect of creation.

Should I kill my ego?

What are the advantages of doing so?

>>799

Read the book: The Arcane Formulas.

It is completely about this topic.

>>799

>Should I kill my ego?

You should subdue it, some call it killing, but truth be told, it's more so trivialize it's (negative) impact on/in your life and effective sublimate it to spirit rather than destroying it.

>What are the advantages of doing so?

By learning to dissociate with your ego you will no longer be ruled by and will not be bound or limited by predetermined variables (the past) and thus shall have more freewill.

>>771

>meditation and astral projection are sins

Meditation is not a sin. To understand this, imagine trying to live a life in which you never once entered into meditation. That would mean no conscious awareness of the present and no self awareness whatsoever. It would mean a life utterly devoted to meaningless distraction, a life filled entirely with worries from the past or escapist fantasies of the future. Does this sound like a holy way of living to you? Do you think Jesus was this way? Do you think God wants people to live with no self awareness and no hope of improving themselves?

(Conscious) astral projection is a skill. It can be used for virtue or vice. If you think you can avoid it know that you do it every night when you sleep (dreams), you are just not aware of it.

Any tips for speaking to my higher self & the higher selves of other people?

>>823

The method I've used is creating/going to your mental sanctuary of sorts.

Some mental realm that resonates with you and keeps you at ease. Then I just summon my higher self into a body of water and talk with it.

how does changing the past work? I assume it's possible. I would think it's something like changing one's memories to be also aware of another potential possibility that could have been, or ridding one of trauma from an event by being present and positive while one relives it.

Anyway, wondering how it would work if 2 people work together to add an event into their shared past, or something of the sort. Is it any different than pretending/imagining it for a mundane?

I've been thinking of just packing a backpack and going on a journey around the country. I don't really have a set destination. I'll probably just pick a direction and walk or hitchhike. Got about $500 cash. I think I need a break from mundane life and internet and cell phones. I want to reawaken a passion for life and meet new people, see new things as well. I'll also have a lot of time to meditate or do energy work. Anyone have any advice or stories to share?

>>227

>See: Arcane Formulas, Raja Yoga, Personal Power, Void Meditation

>>341

> If you meditate 4 hours a day, 2 weeks of work is the same amount as some one who meditates for a year but only 1 hour a day.

56 hours in 2 weeks = 365 hours? hmm…

this appeals to my "do everything at once"/obsessive tendency.

>>370

>Through affirmation (mostly) and a little visualization I've changed the color of my hair.

Affirmation like "my hair is gold" or like "I am thankful for my golden hair" or " I am thankful for my hair color changing to gold"?

>>855

I believe it's better when you think

"I am thankful for my golden hair"

>>854

Food and water could be a huge issue for you depending on where you live and where you are going.

I did exactly that some years ago and it was a great experiance. Best advice I can give you is keep an open mind.

Walking is very slow. Stick to the trails/roads. A thick swamp or forest could take you a couple hours to go a few hundred meters.

I have some good stories that I could tell about that but only if you ask about something specific and I have a story that relates.