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 No.11744[Last 50 Posts]

Do not start threads just to ask a question; post your questions in a pre-existing thread instead.

Previous thread >>>/ask/4642

 No.11746

File: 1483386614118.jpg (92.63 KB, 800x800, 1:1, daily dose.jpg)


 No.11748

>>>/ask/5338

>Are you sure this attitude isn't just the serf trying to justify accept his position because he sees no way to get out?

Au contraire there is a way out, transcension of samsara, in this life or another.

>I'm not saying there's no way out because apparently there are some ways taught in Buddhism. But this physical existence is in my opinion nothing to be cherrished like it is done in the picture and also by some fellow fringe anons. It is dangerous propaganda because there is really no indication that this physical realm is supposed to be a good thing. Or do you know of such indicators?

I'll elaborate on what I said before. In an environment in which forms change as often as mind and mind is not trained to be capable of holding (complex) forms at will, it can be troublesome to learn as the context is always so rapidly shifting. This can make it difficult to learn what energies take what forms in which ways.

What things such as LSD allow for is being in those higher realms beyond your level of confident command. This can be growth inducing, however one may also harm themselves due to ignorance of the laws of nature/creation and how they effect the self. When we are capable of mastering this level of creation we will move on to a higher density as the native realm. If we where to do that any time before we would either not be able to sustain it or we would hurt ourselves or others.


 No.11749

>>11748

so when we do this?


 No.11752

File: 1483390414287.jpg (431.81 KB, 1920x1018, 960:509, 1458943249932.jpg)

>>11749

When? Well that's up to you anon. Here's run down though, we increase the depth of our awareness

http://montalk.net/metaphys/117/stages-of-conscious-awakening

And then also we must expand our awareness outward into all, ultimately reaching the 7D level of unity with everything.


 No.11755

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Any idea what's going on in Antarctica? Has someone AP'd there? A lot of discussion on /pol/…


 No.11757

>>11755

>A lot of discussion on /pol/…

Then it must be true.


 No.11758

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>>11755

>what's going on in Antarctica?

Near as I can tell the Earth is flat, or at least starts to physically become increasingly plastic and less solidly material as you move further away from the center point (north pole) and as a result all sorts of spookyshit grounded in higher density being goes on beyond the borders of the great ice wall as it, or rather, we, have been cordoned off.

I'm doubt a mundane would even be able to imagine the implications of knowing what was there, if they could even grasp it. Chances are it has to do with ancient types of magic based technology or relics thereof however I am not nearly as learned on fringe history as I would like so I can not give you an educated speculation.

Specifically reading that it seems that what is refereed to a god in there is quite possibly the Arc of the Covenant, which used to be considered (the manifestation of) god.

http://montalk.net/gnosis/184/ark-of-the-covenant

Nonetheless the whole series will help.

>>11756

>becoming a serious, all-in fringe wizard would be a serious step back in perspective

That is your opinion now, as an outsider. You will see in time it is not so.

>I need a way to explore stuff without actually getting into it

Such understanding, if it can even truly be called that is limited and often fatally flawed. Only by the experience of life can the depths really be known, even more so with magic too as so much is beyond mundane perceptions.

And on top of that most who are well on their path wouldn't want some ignorant seeker psychically spaghetting all over their ritual space due to lack of mental training, or worse.

>I wonder how.

Just take it gradually. Sooner or later you'll understand.


 No.11759

>>11744

Have you ever had somebody really look at you before? I don't think I look particularly strange, but I found a remarkably attractive woman staring me down as I was leaving a store. We were passing by and she just kept looking at my face and eyes with neutral expression, so I looked back. This went on until we walked past each other.

I would think she was just a fucking weirdo if she weren't so pretty. She was more beautiful than anyone I've seen in years. Yet there she was staring at some weird, virgin, loser, wageslave in the parking lot.

I don't know what to make of it. I guess it could be poor manners. Or maybe she just beamed down from the Super Aryan Mothership and couldn't believe people were as ugly as they say.


 No.11762

Have you timetravelled to the past before, fringe? If so, did you manage to change anything?


 No.11769

File: 1483465133727-0.png (469.84 KB, 1310x2779, 1310:2779, Eidetic Memory.png)

File: 1483465133727-1.png (112.93 KB, 930x327, 310:109, Fringe eidetic memory.PNG)

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I'm early for the question thread for once so I've got 3 questions. Here's hoping the guy who knows sees them. And I'm gonna practice with the formatting.

How Do We Get A Perfect/Eidetic/Photographic Memory?

I’m talking about ever needing people to repeat what themselves, memorizing large textbooks after only reading through them once. I’ve looked in all the question threads and even most of the old 8chan Fringe ones and found only pic(s) related. All I've got is some experience with self-hypnosis and trance to help me out. To improve my memory I tried:

>Building a memory palace and practiced with it

>Reading WWA books "Memory Culture"and "Memory: how To Develop Train And Use It" and other books

>Practicing the Memory helping meditations in the Meditations Superthread

>Hypnotizing myself and affirming and visualizing that I have a good memory

It's helped out but I'm sure there's a more effective way to do this. What's a method or visualization that I haven't done that will help cause me to develop such a powerful memory?

For the first pic, I have read this eidetic memory guide numerous times and I can't understand the Tulpa making process in Part C and how I use it to make my mind absorb info better and how I use it to create a Tulpa that can organize and find information in my mind when I need it. plz help btw WWA needs a goddamn editor. there are whole chapters in his books that can be summed up in one sentence but he just keeps repeating himself.

How Do I Do Complex Math In My Head?

Also 1st pic mentions something about Mind hacks and performing complex maths in your head. That’s also interesting. Could anyone elaborate on how I could become a Mentat human calculator?

How could you Transfer Ideas And Memories to Others?

Like in that book The Giver where a man can give memories and experiences to others instantaenously by willpower and touch, Is there a way to give someone your knowledge experience and memories regarding something like a language or a subject? As if you were copying and pasting your knowledge into them, like to help them learn a langauge or learn a skill?


 No.11770

>>>/ask/5339

One thing comes to my mind when reading your post - falling for the Maya meme

>>11748

>and mind is not trained to be capable of holding (complex) forms at will

Yeah well because the mind is a flawed physical construct in this shit reality.

> beyond your level of confident command

I believe that's where the true will lies though. Navigating through the physical world in our everyday lives is just an illusion of control imo.

This physical existence is thus pretty pointless and more like a movie and then you die.

You're saying that the physical existence is supposed to be a learning experience but all I see is people trying to get better at the physical life. There's no point in that.


 No.11771

>>11770

>falling for the Maya meme

Care to elaborate?


 No.11772

>>11771

Judging life based on how good it can make you feel or justifying suffering as a valuable tool - that's just falling for the emotional/biological mechanisms of the physical body. Maya to me means being too concerned with worldly things and worldly things don't have to be necessarily material. One can also spend countless hours meditating about mundane things for example, waste of thoughts.


 No.11773

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>>11772

I asked because "falling for Maya meme" implies me thinking that this world is not ultimately real and you thinking otherwise (at least using the most common definition of Maya, and not your definition).

>Judging life based on how good it can make you feel or justifying suffering as a valuable tool

These are just examples I made. All I'm saying is that whether physical realm is good or bad is subjective and that it is devoid of any inherent meaning and has meaning only through our awareness of it.

Also, for the most part my post talks about the possibility of experiencing things greater than this plane so I do not see how you came to your conclusion. It is not exclusive - you can both enjoy the fleeting pleasures of this world and develop spirituality (and also enjoy various magical powers, as I think that this fits into neither category). Although I obviously agree that any pleasure on this plane acquired through mundane means is short-lived, but it doesn't mean that

>fuck le demiurge amrite guys, this world is made so that we suffer

but neither does it mean that all we should do is chase the chemical high in our brain, as many tantras stated - a boghin cannot be a yogin. I prefer to view this plane as a play of the Goddess Mahamaya,

>One can also spend countless hours meditating about mundane things for example

It is not meditation then.

If all you want to do is just leave this plane behind then this whole magical and spiritual thing turns into simple escapism but through unorthodox means IMHO.

Something my friend sent me yesterday when we were talking about Buddhism and emptiness:

>Master Shih-shuang asked, “How will you step forward form the top of a hundred-foot pole?” Commenting on this, another ancient master said, “Even though one who is sitting on the top of a hundred-foot pole has entered the way of awakening, it is not yet authentic. She must step forward from the top of the pole and manifest her whole body throughout the ten directions. He must step forward from the top of that pole and manifest his whole body throughout the ten directions.“

>Wumen’s commentary

>If you can step forward and reveal yourself fully, there will be no place where you are called dishonorable. So, right now, tell me. How do you step forward from the top of the hundred-foot pole?

>Wumen’s verse

>Making the eye blind, You cling to the mark on the scale; Throw away body and life, And one blind person leads all the blind.


 No.11774

>>11773

>implies me thinking that this world is not ultimately real and you thinking otherwise

>common definition of Maya, and not your definition

Maya is a meme in itself who would have thought

> you can both enjoy the fleeting pleasures of this world and develop spirituality

I was implying that we could develop much better if we were not stuck in this physical shit, it's so distracting - what fucking cunt thought it would be a good idea to design it this way?

>If all you want to do is just leave this plane behind then this whole magical and spiritual thing turns into simple escapism but through unorthodox means IMHO.

Yeah why the fuck should I stay here in this plane anyway? Cause it feels good and stuns my developmental potential with mundane bullshit? Nah, I won't fall for this crap - not fucking again.


 No.11775

>>11774

>hello fellow adults


 No.11776

>>11774

>I was implying that we could develop much better if we were not stuck in this physical shit

There is no development if there is nothing to overcome. There is only stagnation.

>what fucking cunt thought it would be a good idea to design it this way

le demiurge, fuck that guy amrite? :^)

>Yeah why the fuck should I stay here in this plane anyway? Cause it feels good and stuns my developmental potential with mundane bullshit?

Okay, then go on, leave this plane, what are you waiting for?


 No.11777

>>11759

Could be someone who knows you're using /fringe/


 No.11778

>>11776

>There is no development if there is nothing to overcome. There is only stagnation.

Throughout the course of our discussion it has became clear to me, thank you. I'm stagnating for too long already, time to move on.

>le demiurge, fuck that guy amrite? :^)

he could do better tbqh

>Okay, then go on, leave this plane, what are you waiting for?

I'm taking up meditations today, the path has been laid out.


 No.11779

>>11778

Well, good luck then!

Don't take it too seriously all the time, some edginess has it's place and I know it well, but have some fun too. Meditation, magic and spiritual stuff generally is very fun. It doesn't have to be a grim and sad place, yet I agree that it can seem this way. I'm not shilling for the physical because I live such a great life, because I don't, but if you are able to acknowledge that there are also marvelous things and little wondrous things spilling out every minute, then the ever present reality of suffering loses your grip on you and you can laugh in it's face. These things only have as much power over you as you are willing to give them.

But yes, there are times when I think of this plane as cold and cruel, as if there was some kind of force taking things away from me, from my friends and family so that with each day we have less and that we will all die having very little and not being able to cherish what little we have, but I'd say that I was never in despair, because to be truly in despair means to not being able to do anything, and we are all very capable of changing the course of our lives and of other people's lives. We are not just lumps of matter moving along with the current of life and I think that this makes me happy, no matter how great the mischief of this world may seem.


 No.11780

>>11779

Thank you, friend


 No.11781

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>>11780

Anytime


 No.11783

>>11775

what does that "bureau of memetic warfare" sugil indicate?


 No.11784

>>11783

sigil*


 No.11785

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>>11783

It's actually the Vinterchan's sigil, the /bmw/ has it's own however it's nothing one could put into an image so small as a flag and furthermore they did birth her.


 No.11786

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>>11770

>I believe that's where the true will lies though

And that's we must ever expand our beings.

Physical existence can seem pointless if you live for mundane reasons, if you live for spiritual, awakening driven, ones it is much different and even if you don't despite the appearance of must not learning, every one is, perhaps just very slowly, where as for the more awakened it may be a matter of months or weeks it could be lifetimes for the less aware but nonetheless progress is made.


 No.11787


 No.11789

>>11777

I was wondering that. I've not contacted anyone though. It was such a bizarre event that I felt it must be cataloged someplace, even if nobody knows anything.

Nobody's ever looked at me like that; they were taking in every detail of my face and never looked away. Nobody's ever been that pretty, including media, paintings, drawings. They make everything look ugly by comparison. I very rarely go out in public. The intersection of events makes me suspect something more was going on.

I should have stuck around to see what happened, maybe taken a photograph, but it didn't hit me how weird the confrontation was until I was driving away.


 No.11790

>>11789

Can you describe any other feelings you had while this was happening? Anything that's unusual looking back on it?


 No.11791

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>>11769

In my experience I can say that thinking in experience then translating the direct sensations to words rather than thinking in words and translating to concepts helps a lot with recall.

Words, despite seeming not to, are actually pretty abstract things. There is a clear difference in how thought is structured between these two ways and the learning of a written language that can be observed in most young. Learning to read fast (1000+ wpm) will also help with such as you can not parse words->sounds->concepts and maintain such speed, you must parse directly from words or word clusters to concepts.

So, now to breakdown part C, basically they are saying create an anchor word-sound (but anything could work) to help you maintain or reinstate the state of trance, tranquility, and confidence which gave it birth. Not so much of a Tulpa per se, at least not in the sense that it's used in image 2.

The latter aforementioned is more of a servitor-esque, a bundle of programmed energy tasked with the duty of bringing parts of the self (semi-forgotten memories) to your attention when desired. More complex ones could do that and far more however that's the basics of that.

Alternatively you could construct a mind palace/astral sanctuary, possibly even overlaying parts of it over the physical to aid in memory by association mental HUD if you will.

Regarding doing advanced mental maths I've always done it by trying to simply the problems into parcles, i.e. 142 x 59 would be (140 x 50) + (2 x 50) + (9 x 142). I've heard of far more eloquently masterful ways however I've never seen them explained so that is all I can offer.

About direct transmission of experience, AFAIK this would require either an adept level mastery of clairvoyance or perhaps an elaborate ritual or countless affirmations of receptivity may help, but I would not recommend the latter method due to the level of subservience, and trust, necessary in your sensei.


 No.11793

>>11791

These are some nice pictures fam, how about posting your collection in the art thread?


 No.11797

>>11786

The physical is to be overcome, I see it clearly now. Thanks


 No.11800

File: 1483555933173.jpg (363.36 KB, 1600x1024, 25:16, 1453799371047-1.jpg)

>>11793

I've already uploaded what I have categorized to there, there is so much that is uncategorized though, gigabytes upon gigabytes. It's not realistically feasible and then, what would I post with my replies?

If you insist I may see what I can do about ULing them all en mass somewhere and throwing a link in there. In the mean time much of what I've posted can be found http://www.idlechan.net/yuu/ though it isn't quite as grand as it's former glory before being reincarnated it still has many hundreds of them.


 No.11801

File: 1483556220998.jpg (19.42 KB, 288x432, 2:3, cover.jpg)

>>11789

Do you ever get that feeling of being in the middle of everything, like you are in the room where the real rulers of the world are making the decisions that control the economy and politics worldwide?

If you've felt it, can you relate it to that meeting?

It's often very brief when it happens but it can be described as synching with, or suddenly tuning in the exact correct frequency that would enable you to enter that setting. I have some theories of what that is, and also what meeting someone like this can mean. I won't elaborate right away because I think it would be ridiculed even here.

For example one time at work I was there late, only the boss and me was still in the building. I walked around to check the doors and stuff, then I happened to see someone outside through the window of the back door by the garage for the company truck.

Some guy in a long black coat and shiny black shoes got into a car with dark windows and drove away. I never saw his face.

Just outside the door he had left a plastic bag from some grocery store, inside it was a pair of boots and pic related. I felt strongly that this was intentionally left there for me, and he timed it exactly just so that I would not see who he was.

I could go on about this but I'll stop here now. The book is more or less meaningless, it's just a symbol.


 No.11802

Food plays serious role in tuning your perception.

Is there esoteric manuals on how and what you should eat to keep your perception always on the sharp edge


 No.11803

>>11791

> More complex ones could do that and far more

If you're talking about memory or just servitors/tuplas in general, what sort of more complex tasks?


 No.11804

How do I 'randomly' encounter people on the street, like manifesting ? Like you manifest that you meet a person you havent seen since high school and talk from there, maybe network through them or just bring them back into your life as a friend. >>200 touches on it. Are there other ways?


 No.11807

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>>11801

>I won't elaborate right away because I think it would be ridiculed even here.

Oh your precious ego. You're posting anonymously ffs, the curiosity of the hive demands moar.

>>11802

>Is there esoteric manuals on how and what you should eat to keep your perception always on the sharp edge

I've seen a lot of broscience on the subject (and it was utterly terrible). A long time ago I was gonna aggregate the 8/fringe/fit/ thread however I never got around to finishing it. Here's my notes:

http://pastebin.com/4utf7GHH

And I would see also >>>/fringe/562

Furthermore it will say that raw, organic, and ideally wild grown food that is consumed within ASAP (<10 mins, for most plants) of harvesting are so extremely full of energy they make normalfag food look like poison without even any nutrients.

Shy of foraging, if possible grow at least a little something yourself, even if it's in a window pot. It's better than nothing.

>>11803

>If you're talking about memory or just servitors/tuplas in general, what sort of more complex tasks?

I was talking about the capabilities of more powerful thoughtforms. Well, technically anything you can imagine. Myself I'm not big on them so most of the ones I made where quite simple and not persistent. Little more than an interactive spell that took the energy input to manifest it's duty. Practically for me this looked like conveying a message to some one, or shrouding/protecting a thing from undesirable eyes.

However this is my no means the limit, you can have semi or even fully self-aware constructs that you would interact with like any other spirit, except they would be your humble servant (unless you fuck that up). And thusly they could help you do anything from calculating what day of the week the 25th of June in 1923 was to Akashic record access to applied metaphysical engineering. Pic related for brain food.

You would just need give them something you desired them to do and keep cultivating it. If you don't then it will dissipate, however before it does it may struggle to live, and in this way can become a nuance.

>>11804

>How do I 'randomly' encounter people on the street, like manifesting ?

Open yourself up to possibilities, take new roads, take a different path than normal, linger for awhile, chat up a stranger, do things which increase the probabilities you are exposed to. This will allow you to manifest easier/swifter as there are now more avenues it can come through.

Just remember than the more specific the desire the less ways it can manifest (which typically limits the paths of least resistant and thus multiplies manifestation time, however not always), so balance enough to get precisely what your aiming for however yet general enough not to cause an undue wait. Sometimes there are only few paths, and choosing them does not inhibit but in my experience this is the exceeding minority.


 No.11808

>>11800

>I may see what I can do about ULing them all en mass somewhere and throwing a link in there

That would be great. I can sort through them myself.


 No.11809

>>11807

>Oh your precious ego. You're posting anonymously ffs, the curiosity of the hive demands moar.

>

Oh but how about I don't want to waste time typing out a long post only to get told to leave?

Ok, so I think there really is some kind of "spider in the web" kind of organization consisting of a hierarchy with small groups at every level. Each of them know only the people right above and below them, so exposing anything is not possible for any individual.

They have access to advanced technology based on nano implants, being able to directly read/transmit information to humans, see through their eyes in some cases etc. All of this is the kind of things that would label you a schizo if you talked about it.

There have been multiple occasions like the one I described, where I felt "it" touch me, the feeling of suddenly being in the control room, being given some kind of access to the inner of the inner. Sometime I've been given mental hints to go looking for something, and for example found a book talking in detail about some of this, on a surface layer. The writer is not exposing his name and also uses the words "exposing anyone by name is forbidden."

I've been approached by people in weird locations asking for directions, only to later realize it was some quite important company leader. I'm talking really far off places, like a dirt road that literally leads nowhere (it's a dead end) where I used to take walks for exercise, and a guy in a car shows up.

There's also been these black vans, helicopters etc outside my house, but unlike other poeple who post online about this stuff I always felt they were on my side. (or maybe I'm just so much of a mainstream statist type of person in my views they know I wouldn't go against them, like the boots in the bag would imply)

I've been reading the threads about gang stalking and the explanations of it, along with the freemason version of it, and I can see the pattern here, except I would call it "courting" rather than stalking. Just like

>>11759

it's not hostile but rather it's a pleasant kind of interaction, telling you "we're keeping an eye on you."


 No.11810

>>11802

>Is there esoteric manuals on how and what you should eat to keep your perception always on the sharp edge

Locusts and wild honey

t. john the baptist


 No.11811

>>11809

You've been overdosed on too much disinfo.

There are no "nano implants" they simply use special electro magnetic devices disguised as radio broadcasters/trancievers to mess with some parts of people's brains, like the "Amazon Drone" project balloons are actually going to be mass brain control devices.

You're probably just a GATE subject and they're keeping tabs on the maturation of the project. Tavistock


 No.11812

>>>/ask/5260

Considering your tag says "Pagan (druid)", I'd very much appreciate if you could answer me seriously.


 No.11815

>>11812

You don't get it anon, that was a serious answer. Well I'm not sure about turning into a tree, but the ecstatic dancing until and beyond exhaustion in the middle of nature is solid advise.


 No.11816

I'm really spiritually and mentally beaten down from 2016 (vampire grabbed all of my loosh) and I feel like I am not going to make it in this Age of Dissolution because I am not a Bear Heart type individual.

How do you possibly survive in a world in which there are subversive Luciferian individuals who will stop at nothing to gain Land/Power/Money/Women?


 No.11817

Is titanism / prometheanism diagonally opposed to the genuine Initiate?


 No.11818

>>11815

Do you do that on your own or in a group?


 No.11819

>>11815

>but the ecstatic dancing until and beyond exhaustion in the middle of nature is solid advise

It may have been solid around Pagan times but frenzy magic is completely useless (in my personal opinion) in the Modern World.

Apart from burning some fat calories.


 No.11820

Have any of you guys read this?

>SSOTBME Revised - An Essay on Magic by Ramsey Dukes

>gen.lib.rus.ec/book/index.php?md5=AD5ADBE32109CA3347A7350B439C1D9A


 No.11824

>>11790

I did record my emo thoughts in one of my personal log entries. I had to reassess my life. It was shocking how utterly beneath her I felt. Like defending her, even to death would be more worthwhile than what I have. I doubt I expressed anything on my face, unless my pupils dilated.

It seemingly contradicts the way I've been living for over a year or two now. I don't get in bum fights for anyone. I had to make fun of her to snap out of it, telling myself she probably sits on coke cans in front of a webcam for money.

20170102 log:

I am approaching the bottom of

I don't really know what's going on. I'm just stating suspicion.

I do feel better already. It's abstract and distant now. I am in a state of complete failure.

I feel nothing. No motivation. No whim. I see Mathis' paintings and I can't understand them. His bio is alien.

Maybe they've upped the fluoride and estrogen in the water.

I'm not mastering anything is what I'm saying. I don't appear any closer to anything.

The van is now 'running'. That was the plan, wasn't it? Escaping this crippling comfort?

What do I do? It's been so long and I've done nothing. I haven't felt like doing anything. I'm nothing. I'm living like a slave. I have nothing.

The other day, I go to Lowe's, on my way out I see one of the most beautiful people I've ever seen. Her face was top percentile. She made the dogshit people they shovel on TV look like dogshit.

We look at each other and I understood just how damaged and disgusting my existence is. Biologically I'm a wreck. Everything is out of proportion. I am a mutt of various slaves. Awake by some freak chance to what I am in this place. I wouldn't be surprised if she thought I was some unshaven, psychotic, mk-ultra hobo. I wouldn't be surprised if she was a lizard, the way she looked at me. Nobody looks at each other these days, and, suddenly, I find a .01% blonde looking me in the eyes. To be clear, I only looked back because she was looking at me. I leave people to their privacy unless they're eye-fucking my face.

You know, she really made Mathis's paintings look like shit. He has one good picture. The others I can 'appreciate' for how he captured them, but only one is worth time or money.

Maybe I'm just a lonely pathetic nerd virgin with nothing obsessing over the only true female contact I've had in years. Nobody's ever LOOKED at me like that. Men or women. Consciously taking in my physical appearance is new. Nobody is conscious. Nobody makes conscious decisions like that. An expression of agency toward me is bizarre. It's an outlier of outliers considering it was a female and absurdly good looking and she started it.

I am excited by such a mystery. Not that I want to sleep with them; only a nigger would destroy another person's genetics. The sheer strangeness draws me in. Out of all the garbage I've collected in my mind, this event stands against that. What play was such a person making? Surely, she belongs to somebody important. You don't just go to Lowe's with a face like that and LOOK at people. Not unless there's something going down behind the scenes.

I have changed, haven't I? I've never picked apart anything like this before. I couldn't. I was always in a daze just living with whatever dogshit came my way, like the slaves around me. A little before that, I couldn't even look at myself without being overwhelmed by disgust.

But now that I'm here… Do I carry on with the plan? Is it what I want to do? Nothing else has come up. My soul has slightly been crushed by work, but I've mostly just lost my mind, so it's not so bad.

Could it have been an otherworldly entity that I encountered?

I am free to do as I please aren't I? I have money in the bank. More money than I needed for this plan.

Is it really my surroundings crippling me? Only one way to find out for certain.

>>11801

I've always felt like an extra that missed his splatter scene. Maybe getting run over or blown up, or quite possibly psychotically murdering some other insignificant people when I consider my childhood and disposition. Some pointless life and end to build somebody else's. Like the book, Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead.

I have changed, or gone crazy over the years, though. I feel slated for the usual slavery now, but dying always seems more worthwhile whenever I consider my options.

The appearance of the woman was like bait or mockery, or some random glimpse of somebody important. I'm not particularly inspired by them, but they did make everyone else look like insignificant ugly mutants, where I had only computed that before. They did make me re-evaluate everything. I was in a funk for some time.

As far as control rooms go, I didn't think of anything like that. I do read Mathis's writings and it has led me to suspect such a thing. Complete with hidden cities, brain slugs, body snatchers, clones, and demons. It's kind of what motivates me to observe politics and things. These sacks of shit have no taste or inspiration and insist on ruining everything, and are likely brain-slugged prison keepers.


 No.11826

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

what do you guys think about the Lumine Boreali forum?


 No.11828

>>11793

Here you are sir. >>>/fringe/11827


 No.11833

>>11819

Seconded, we have too much language for that.


 No.11834

>>11828

Thanks very much.


 No.11835

>>11802

whatever healthy foods you enjoy that fit within the framework of your lifestyle. some people may swear by eating this or that (or absolutely nothing) to get woke af, but as long as you listen to your body and cut down on processed/shitty foods that you (should) already know to stay away from, you'll be on the right track. aside from understanding the basics of nutrition, every individual has unique needs for the proper maintenance of their vessel. don't eat like a fatass but don't starve yourself either.


 No.11844

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For a winter semester film course I'll have to pick 8 movies to analyze throughout the semester, and I figure I may as well do films with spiritual/occult/fringe themes. Any recommendations? I just watched Polanski's The Ninth Gate, and next I'll watch Why Has Bodhi-Dharma Left for the East. I need 6 more. Any ideas?


 No.11845

>my entire life I've had a female presence in my dreams who shows up maybe 1/3 of the time (that I remember)

>I've been conscious she was in my dreams for maybe a decade now

>she always has a different appearance but I always know who she is, if there are ten female forms in a dream I can instantly recognize her

>every time I have a dream with her I wake up with my heart and throat chakra open and very active

>when I wake up from these dreams everything seems 'thin' and insubstantial in comparison, like the dream was in 3D and now everything is in 2D, or the dream was in full color and now I'm seeing grayscale

Fuck I don't even know anymore. I can't explain it so I doubt anyone else can. The dream just seems so real, it's just so vibrant. The range of emotion I can feel in it, the range of sounds, experiences, thoughts, actions. It's like in the dream I'm free and awake I'm in a prison, a prison in my own mind.


 No.11846

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>>11844

American Psycho

The Dark Knight Rises

If you don't include these you need to give up your Big Guy license. You can even include an analysis of their effect on modern culture.


 No.11848

>>11818

>Do you do that on your own or in a group?

Either can be done. I've personally done it in 2 types of group settings, one in which we had an external focus for our energy-intention, a bonfire as the zero point. I have also done similar in a group but where we each instead focused internally while just dancing near each other. Depending on what the goal is either could serve. If you had more of spiritual sojourn in mind the latter, be it entirely solo or as above would be more ideal.

>>11819

>It may have been solid around Pagan times but frenzy magic is completely useless (in my personal opinion) in the Modern World.

It's not just frenzy magic and more so about using that the chained biogeometric flow inducing movements to, (A) build energy, and (B) generate an altered state of consciousness. What you do with that is up to you. You could then go right into what ever your working is.

In nearly all of my art-craft I use such, not always to that extreme of a degree nonetheless I ply many dance-esque and Taichi-esque moves as part of my normal practice.


 No.11851

>>11811

>There are no "nano implants"

I have to strongly suspect they do exist, but not as implants in the conventional sense. They're not inserted by a medical procedure but are based on nanobots that travel physically in all matter. They could easily spread anywhere. I don't think these people have any control over it or know how it works, they just use it.

I had a message sent to my mind directly complete with schematics, explaining a subject I knew nothing of. I know a person who was into this thing and explained the information to him. He understood the message fully and thought it was a new interesting angle on the theories. (he didn't seem to understand I was just retelling it mindlessly and didn't know what it was)

By this I know it is exact to the extreme.

>>11824

>Could it have been an otherworldly entity that I encountered?

>>11824

>I had to reassess my life. It was shocking how utterly beneath her I felt. Like defending her, even to death would be more worthwhile than what I have. I doubt I expressed anything on my face, unless my pupils dilated.

Could be the first, that's what I thought, but your feelings in the 2nd quote are in line with how I perceive the supposed "control room" people. They're hard as granite and what they decide will be made real. Resistance really is futile because they have the resources to overpower any human organization or entity.

>>11824

> hidden cities, brain slugs, body snatchers, clones, and demons. It's kind of what motivates me to observe politics and things. These sacks of shit have no taste or inspiration and insist on ruining everything, and are likely brain-slugged prison keepers.

That's the other side of it. This is what lead me to think there are 2 factions. The real and the fake. The fake consists of all the assholes, they use terrorism and brainwashing to get things their way. They have no morality. They are only slightly aware of the superior side of the organization.

Sometimes their work is so sloppy you can literally see through it with just a little attention to detail, like the sandy hook event and that terrorist attack in france where they killed a muslim cop. Just look at the footage, the place he was shot in does not match the spot where the blood is shown in later pics, just compare the lamp post's location.

But who will go against this view with any credibility, they do have control over most media. If you're sensitive you can feel the energy of this evil faction, they're extreme, fanatic and ruthless. But the lack the rock solid mentality of the core, and are the useful idiots who will be used up to serve the purpose of the real leaders, whom they fear uncontrollably, yet are mostly unaware of.

The movies about bourne (identity etc)are probably pretty close.


 No.11852

>>11851

>Resistance really is futile because they have the resources to overpower any human organization or entity.

You do realize that with the application of Will you can do anything right? Slavery is self-delusion.

And Sandy Hook happened, the whole "Sandy Hoax" disinfo was created to allay suspicion that he killed people due to the psychotropic medications he was prescribed by his jewish doctor.


 No.11853

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>>11844

Embed related

Andrei Rublev

It's Such a Beautiful Day

Jigoku

Valhalla Rising


 No.11854

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>>11844

>spiritual/occult/fringe themes

The VVitch AKA The Witch: A New-England Folktale [2015] by Robert Eggers

The Wicker Man (Robin Hardy, 1973)

In the Mouth of Madness [1994] by John Carpenter

The Devils 1971

Stalker, 1979, Andrei Tarkovsky

Andrei Rublev, 1966, Andrei Tarkovsky

Zerkalo ("The Mirror"), 1975, Andrei Tarkovsky

Magnolia, 1999, Paul Thomas Anderson

gotta go with the obligatory The Holy Mountain by Jodorowsky as well


 No.11857

>>11844

The Matrix Trilogy

The Fountain

Lord of the Rings Trilogy/Hobbit Trilogy


 No.11858

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>>11857

>Hobbit Trilogy

mfw

>>11854

>Kenneth Anger

What do you think of his stuff? I find it watchable but kind of facile. Maybe i just don't get it.


 No.11859

>>11824

>The dream just seems so real, it's just so vibrant. The range of emotion I can feel in it, the range of sounds, experiences, thoughts, actions. It's like in the dream I'm free and awake I'm in a prison, a prison in my own mind.

Paradoxically, you only "get" to this place when you stop obsessing about it and focus on the present as it is.


 No.11860

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>>11844

2001: A Space Odyssey

>>11845

>a decade

>I don't even know

Why don't you invoke her and talk with her finally? Or learn how to LD or AP and contact her in this way. Maybe use Tarot to learn more about this situation. If something like that was a prominent part of my life then I'd make every effort to learn more about it.

>>11851

>Resistance really is futile

Then you have already lost.

IMHO you would do best if you stopped caring about NWO, Illumianti, secret societies etc. for the time being at least. Knowledge of this stuff gives you nothing practical and nothing of value, except a lifetime of looking over your shoulder. Just raise your power level, meditate, practice magic, maybe find and make contact with some powerful guardian deities and you will be fine.


 No.11861

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>>11809

>They have access to advanced technology based on nano implants, being able to directly read/transmit information to humans, see through their eyes in some cases etc. All of this is the kind of things that would label you a schizo if you talked about it.

Some have this, some have far better, astral tech, some don't even need any at all to obtain such information. For me, despite loving my privacy when it comes to hyperdimensional eves droppers aside from giving notice of nonconsent there is little I can do. So I don't let it bother me and instead take each moment to remind myself of the virtues I wish to embody, so even if I am surveilled the truth shall set me free.

>There have been multiple occasions like the one I described, where I felt "it" touch me, the feeling of suddenly being in the control room, being given some kind of access to the inner of the inner. Sometime I've been given mental hints to go looking for something, and for example found a book talking in detail about some of this, on a surface layer.

I've certainly felt many different types of presences before, usually they don't talk (at least to me, but perhaps that's due to currently underdeveloped clairaudience).

>I've been approached by people in weird locations asking for directions, only to later realize it was some quite important company leader. I'm talking really far off places, like a dirt road that literally leads nowhere (it's a dead end) where I used to take walks for exercise, and a guy in a car shows up.

>I can see the pattern here, except I would call it "courting" rather than stalking.

Plausible deniability;

>I'm not an alien, I'm just a lost businessman. >.> <.< be well.

I have seen cases in which it's not so positive however they where only second hand accounts at best. The main thing I have to say is don't let yourself fall into any sort of fear based (re)actions as a result of your interactions.

>>11816

>I feel like I am not going to make it in this Age of Dissolution because I am not a Bear Heart type individual.

What do you mean by this? I don't practice his stuffs and I've managed to find a harmony with the shifting age.

>How do you possibly survive in a world in which there are subversive Luciferian individuals who will stop at nothing to gain Land/Power/Money/Women?

There will always be those subverting, what you need understand is we will also always have the ability to make the freewill-choice not to. As the age shifts such selfish energies will wain, no they will not vanish, but they will be (eventually) subdued in the torrent of others.

>>11817

>Is titanism / prometheanism diagonally opposed to the genuine Initiate?

Can you define your terms? From my reading of your sentence, and in the general sense of the word initiate: any one who has good working knowledge of the mysteries is an initiate, but this is not telling of what type or if which order, if any.

>>11845

When we dream we get to glimpse what the next stage of being is like. However we're not yet natives of there, we must learn to master ourselves so we can move into that. It's inspiration.

>>11851

>Resistance really is futile because they have the resources to overpower any human organization or entity.

>You don't have freewill, give up now!

Oh you. Well, if that's what you believe then so it shall be in your world.

>>11858

>Failing antediluvian history


 No.11862

>>11852

>>11860

>>11861

I did say they can overpower any human organization or entity, not that they hold any power over what is beyond human.

This only goes for the core, it's my understanding they are neutral, they don't harm mankind overall, unlike the negative faction.

>Sandy hoax happened

Yes and the official story is a mess full of holes. They even edited the shooter's photo to make him look skinny to the point of illness, when the real photo shows a normal healthy kid.

Sandy Hook also has some fucked up stories about the place itself, if you had been around /x/ in the past year. There was that thread where someone presented certain evidence of the hoax, and suddenly lots of anons started talking about how they lived there and knew it was real. Sure thing, everyone on 4chan lives in Sandy Hook and knows someone in that school class. The shilling is intense still as soon as you bring it up.

The more interesting stories involved people being chased by cultists waving torches in some park and the behaviour of the school kids in the area. Someone described it as

>they all acted like the new kid in town, it was like they all were robotic implants


 No.11877

is learning in your sleep effective, like listening to a short recorded phrase while sleeping?


 No.11884

>thinking it's pure coincidence that the first Antarctic expedition and the supposed "invention" of the radio occurred both in 1895

>implying the precursor civilization wasn't spread throughout the Antarctic continent and Mars up until a couple hundred million years ago

>implying any technology since the discovery of the Antarctic ruins has actually been invention and not inferred from the relics fond in the Antarctic ruins

>ACTUALLY thinking that technology could naturally improve this fast

Wake up mundanes. What do you think WWI, WWII, the Cold War, and current tensions between USA and Russia have ACTUALLY been about? If you really believe the lies you're as gullible as they come. Every war since 1895 has been over control of the Antarctic continent and Mars. It's all about the powerplay between certain secret societies and (((racial groups))) to decide who controls Antarctica and Mars, and by extension the future of humanity. Also the projects that USA and Russia did during early cold war to try and create people with ESP worked. Several major factions have been controlled by fourth density entities for over half a century. You think the psyops and disinfo for the past 50 years to convince people "paranormal" and "occult" things are bullshit is pure coincidence?


 No.11885

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>>11884

>You think the psyops and disinfo for the past 50 years to convince people "paranormal" and "occult" things are bullshit is pure coincidence?

They didn't want magic falling into the hands of bad goys like us. Too bad.

Long live /fringe/


 No.11886

>>11885

Letting the masses use internet was their biggest mistake. Before the internet esoteric texts were esoteric, then suddenly everyone in the world could access every published work at the speed of light and create thousands of copies in thousands of places. The internet has increased the amount of people who follow esoteric schools of thought by magnitudes. The internet is the elite's Pandora's Box. On one hand it made it easier to control what the masses believe and spread propaganda and disinfo, but it also had the effect of waking up everyone who had the capability to get woke.


 No.11887

>raise my energy alone in meditation, become very sensitive to the environment, emotional, rational, fast-thinking, and focused

>go to a social place

>there the flow of energy lowers automatically, colors become less intense; I feel detached

any magic to remove this mechanic and connect to energy flows without restrictions?


 No.11888

What's a good place to start learning about the Anunnaki, whether it be a book, forum, or thread on here or 8/fringe? I seem them mentioned every now and then here, and high-profile figures like Montalk seem to be incorporating the information into their theories and worldviews, so probably something to look into there.


 No.11889

So, I'm trying to find good books about Onmyodo but I just found weeb shit. Do you have any recommendation, /fringe/?


 No.11890

Is it possible to create a micro-universe under my rule?


 No.11892

>>11890

Yeah you're living in it.


 No.11893

>>11889

All of the texts are written in Japanese… Classical Japanese. So unless you can read Classical Japanese (most japs can't) good luck cuck.


 No.11894

>>11845

Sounds like a classic case of what Carl Jung calls the "anima".


 No.11895

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>>11854

I have known about Jodorowsky for years, but haven't bothered to see his movies since they always struck me as being weird for the sake of being weird or being somehow tailored for a stoned hippy audience. Is there actually some sense to them or something to be discerned in them?

Trailer for the Devil reminded me of this (embed) scene from Herzog's Nosferatu


 No.11896

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>>11895

haha, the scene you embedded is great. this is pretty much how everyday world looks like when mind is going through certain stages. crazy carnivelesque dance

there are similar okay scenes in Jodorowsky. For example, in this one, Jesus realizes everything is in vain because he's been turned into a symbol, or a commodity. but I haven't watched any of his works, just some scenes.


 No.11897

>>11896

>this is pretty much how everyday world looks like when mind is going through certain stages. crazy carnivelesque dance

Exactly. The world is mad and they don't know it. In the words of St. Anthony:

“A time is coming when men will go mad, and when they see someone who is not mad, they will attack him, saying, 'You are mad; you are not like us.”


 No.11900

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/bloodlines/duyn.htm

hearing some guy going on about this shit, is it disinfo?


 No.11902

>>11900

Van Duyn are jews.

Everything is jews and powerhungry secret society cucks.

KILL JEWS


 No.11903

>>11902

why are you degrading your people?


 No.11904

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What did he mean by this?


 No.11905

>>11903

Don't worry goy it's not all jews, after all jews are white. Don't forget to be a based civic nationalist and support Israel, the only white ethnostate. I'm one of the good jews fellow white man, don't worry jews are white as you should know.

P.S. 9/11 was not an inside job it was just crazy muslims trust me I know people who are very knowledgeable on the subject and they told me that the dancing jews on 9/11 were just celebrating the passover


 No.11906

>>11905

TRS shills in a nutshell


 No.11908

>>11893

For fuck's sake. Isn't there any translations?


 No.11909

>>11886

The internet is like the Matrix, Neo!

>>11897

But isn't that overabstraction into the categories of mad and not mad? I'm pretty sure that there would be mads calling other mads mad all the time.

>>11904

Based on the meaning of the word, his idea seems to be that everything would be nice if human thought "knew its place" relative to the world and other things, just like how you know how much your knee is bent without looking at it, or touching something with your leg, feeling pain or anything.


 No.11912

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>>11903

It is meta level irony trolling.

>>11908

Maybe to modern Japanese but you'd still probably need to learn to read moon to find it either way.

https://ankiweb.net/shared/info/748570187


 No.11913

>>11892

What? Explain.


 No.11915

>>11913

Each person's individual perception of experienced reality is real in their mind.

The only limiting factor is the strength of your Will and your ability to control your Awareness.


 No.11917

What's the best way to improve my concentration.


 No.11918

>>11917

By concentrating

>woah

>wow

>amazing

>what

>how

>waow


 No.11919

Has anyone around here had any success with altering their genetics via spiritual means?

I feel like there is so much we as humans we could solve via editing our genetic code such as fixing thought patterns, appearance, health dispositions etc. but i haven't the slightest idea how one could feasibly change their own genetics without machinery, any advice?


 No.11922

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>>11919

>thought patterns

>genes

What are you, an atheist or something? :^)

>appearance

I've had some success with editing my body to some extent (and also brain chemistry), but I don't know if it affected my genes, probably not seeing how changes slowly reverted once I stopped pouring loosh into this project, but then again, I just sort of gave up on this entirely and the project was far from complete, maybe if I took it to the extreme then the changes would be irreversible, which would mean that the genetic code was indeed altered.

The way I did that was just straight up basic will, visualization and emotion. Create a scenario in your mind where you can see the desired outcome and just "live it out" while pouring energy into it, you can also utilize affirmations and auto-suggestion. Of course aim to be as deep in the meditation as possible, usually I saved any serious work for when I could no longer feel my body. Do it daily for some time and watch for the effects, that was at least how I did the slight body editing.

You can also work with energy, visualize and feel some light on the part of the body you are working on, molding it to your will, breath energy into it etc. There is a multitude of ways, I mostly used several in conjunction with the others.

>health

The same way as before really, but then again, each magical working can be reduced to just these three components - will, visualization and energy.

In each case you can also mess around with elements, figure out which element would help with reaching your goal. For healing I sometimes use earth and it works great (but then again you can also use other elements depending on what you are doing, or a combination of them in succession, like purifying some part with fire, then solidifying changes with earth), but I cannot asses if it's solely because of this, as I focused most of my efforts on self-healing these past few years, and apart from that most of the practices I do have health benefits (nadi shuddhi, tattwa shuddhi and stuff like that).

>altering genetics

Now, I'd go on about this as I explained before - will, visualization and energy meme, as it is not different from changing your body, it's just you don't work on the larger scale as with appearance and health etc. but on smaller, influencing the building blocks that make up your genetic code. Bear in mind that you do not have to make your visualization as scientific as possible, work on symbols. For example DNA always reminded me of a staircase, so most certainly my visualization would utilize that. Perhaps I'd see some steps in this staircase as undesirable and I'd replace them, linking this action with changing the genome, and pouring energy into it.

Now, some word of caution is needed I think, because I think you could really hurt yourself if you did changes to your genome but the results would be far from beneficial, and the changes you made could accidentally start a chain reaction leading to, for example, cancer or some other shit, so try to implement some limits onto your actions. At one time I did some magic to change the receptivity of the opioid receptors in my brain, but I was having some "safeguards" as to not change their sensitivity too much.

Now, when it comes to any modification of your body, it is good to know about what exactly are you doing from the scientific point of view - what biological processes cause what you want to change. I think that it allows for easier workings when you surgically give a small push in the right direction exactly where you need it than when you just make a general statement as an auto suggestion (the second approach work too though). Take all the scientific data you can find (pubmed is your friend) and study up. Then, when you know what you have to do, take this information and encode it in some symbolic form, and then just work on symbols and energy. If you have trouble with coming up with the "proper" way of visualizing the thing you want to change, you can just try to let it come to you. Go deep into meditation and just ask something like "show me the part of the genome that does…" and be receptive of any impressions.

Just some thoughts, I'm not a huge expert.


 No.11924

>>11919

>but i haven't the slightest idea how one could feasibly change their own genetics without machinery, any advice?

Lead can be turned into Gold through Will alone. You can do anything with Will.


 No.11925

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Assuming this isn't a hoax, wtf is the purpose of what they are doing?


 No.11929

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>>11925

I think that this is a hoax, but there is enough evidence to support the notion that human sacrifice was performed in India to various aspects of the Godhead, usually to Shakti though, as Shiva is just a transcendental passive observer, so any worship of Shiva is redundant (at least in the version of Tantra I follow) but then again in Kashmir Shaivism this form of Shiva - dancing Shiva - Nataraj can be linked to the function that Shakti in Her various aspects performs.

Siva, the sole essence of all that exists, is also the Lord of

dance (natarája). With one of his many hands, he holds the

drum, the sound vibrations of which give rise to the universe as

they generate time and space; with another hand, he brandishes

the fire of resorption. The movement of the dance conceals his

essence, as it whirls about him the flames of the manifestation,

while the fire of resorption, sweeping away everything, reveals it.

Standing still at the center of this twofold activity, as the seat of all

power, he unfolds, with impassibility, the fiercest energies, the

most antagonistic movements: emanation and resorption, con-

cealment and grace, retraction and expansion.

His energy, the great Kali, with whom he forms an indivisible

whole, propagates to the entire universe the rhythm of this cosmic

dance. Such is the essence of the Kundalini energy, the source of

all rhythms in life; what it generates is nothing but rhythm, and no

level escapes it. It is in the perspective of this divine pulsation—of

which it is a privileged expression and which it reproduces at ev-

ery stage— that this energy should be considered, in order to un-

derstand the role it plays within humans and in the universe.

Abhinavagupta states: “Siva, conscious, free, and of trans-

parent essence, is always vibrating, and this supreme energy

reaches to the tip of the sense organs; then he is nothing but bliss

and like him the entire universe vibrates. In truth, I do not see

where transmigration, a mere echo, could find a place.”

Now, this consideration of the symbolism of the statue reveals that it is indeed the very thing CERN is interested in - the study of vibration. The notion that everything is vibration have been present in Tantra for a very long time (for example in Shaivite Spandakarika), so, although I think it is a hoax, I wouldn't be surprised if it weren't.

Now, I don't know if historically there were any human sacrifices to Shiva, but I know that there were to Kali, but female creatures were never sacrificed to Her, Kulachudamani nigama (if my memory serves me) states that sacrificing a female animal of any kind would make the Goddess furious.

If someone went to all the trouble of preparing a human sacrifice and had resources to do so, I think they could do better than doing it practically in public and with no proper sacrifice or no proper ritual conduct. I mean, if you do a sacrifice to a certain deity you can at least use their symbolism and can do better than some meme black robes.


 No.11930

>>11925

This is an old story but by the time it was first mentioned that CERN may create a black hole and destroy the universe, I remember reading a lecture by Li Hongzhi (founder of falun gong) where he claimed some scientists had started a chain reaction that they couldn't stop, and they're now scared out of their minds. I'm not sure exactly to what he was referring to except it had to do with splitting particles and if it was left unfixed it would really be the end of the world. It's implied this would be handled within the teachings of falun dafa anyway so it was not said by him to worry people in my understanding, rather he was talking about the recklessness of human modern science and how dangerous it is.

When I heard of the black hole thing I had this stuff in mind so I decided to stop it at once. I don't remember exactly what method I used because this was literally like 9 years ago, but after I performed that thing the particle collider had a malfunction and couldn't be started for 3 months. Later I found out they placed a statue of Shiva in the regenerative form rather then the destructive at CERN. Because I placed a solid block on the place to stop any black holes from appearing I would assume this caused some kind of reaction in the environment, and the ritual they are playing out may be part of the protective qualities manifesting. I've found this to often happen when placing something there, it shows up physically in some way or other.

>inb4 get lost roleplayer etc

You believe what you want, I'm just saying what I think is the reason.


 No.11931

>>11930

>a statue of Shiva in the regenerative form

It's symbolism runs much deeper than that, see my post above.


 No.11932

>>11929

>Kashmir Shaivism

Speaking of Kashmir Shaivism, where does one read up on this topic?


 No.11933

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>>11932

Whatever there is translated of Abhinavagupta, material from Dyczkowski, Jaideva Singh books, stuff from SUNY press is generally good, Paul E. Muller-Ortega, Teun Goudriaan - just a few names from the top of my head.

A good place to start is "Eastern" folder in the Temple of Solomon the King mega library. Now I don't know too much about Shaivism, as I'm much more interested in Shaktism, but there is a lot of great Shaiva scholars and there is a lot of stuff to learn. A real abundance of material, which convinces me to research it more (Shiva and Shakti are one anyway and you do a lot of work with various aspects of the Goddess too in Shaivism, see for example books on the Crooked One - Kubjika from Dyczkowski as it is my understanding that She was worshiped in Newar Shaivism too, also She revealed Herself directly to Dyczkowski during his journeys). If you want something practical to throw in while you study up, then check out Vijnanabhairava tantra (just please, don't read Osho's version, which is just a meme and not a real Vijnanabhairava tantra, Jaideva Singh edition is good).


 No.11934

>>11933

Wow, I greatly thank you for this informative post.


 No.11935

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>>11934

There is also a sort of introductory book by Christopher Wallis, but I can't recommend it in a good conscience as a guy seems kinda off to me, despite his articles on his blog being very good. He does coaching for fuck's sake. But you can give it a try, it's called Tantra Illuminated, and I really don't know why I have a grudge against him, maybe it's just his "so spiritual straight outta yoga class" attitude. This book wasn't that great (I haven't finished it either) but it seemed okay for entry-level. Dunno, maybe just go through it see if you feel like reading it.

I'm trying to think of some good entry-level book on Kashmir Shaivism, but can't think of any because I got into it via a different route. I think that starting from Spandakarikas and the whole vibration meme would be nice. So you have the book by Dyczkowski about it (doctrine of vibration I think it was called) but Dyczkowski is quite heavy on Sanskrit terms and whatnot, really scholarly work proper (as is most of the stuff I listed), but I don't know about this particular book as I haven't read it, there is an edition by Jaideva Singh too called The Yoga of Vibration and Divine Pulsation A Translation of the Spanda Karika with Ksemaraja's Commentary, the Spanda Nirnaya, and you have an edition with 5 different commentaries in the Solomon's mega. See if it clicks with you.

You may want to look on Studies in Tantra by Bagchi, haven't read it either, but his edition of Kaulajnananirnaya was great and he is a recognized name in Tantrik studies and it seems like a sort of introductory book (don't know if that particular book is about Shaivism though).

Abhinavagupta's Paramarthasara seems like a great introduction too.

Arthur Avalon (John Woodroffe) was a pioneer in the area of Tantrik Studies, but he was focused on Shakta mostly, but you can check him out. People think of him as a scholar only, but they tend to forget that he was initiated himself.

Again, as I said - I'm no expert on Shaivism, just listing stuff I heard of or gave a try myself. I plan on studying up on this topic when the stars are right and I will definitely start from Abhinavagupta and Dyczkowski.


 No.11936

>>11925

>666

>number of the beast

But the number of the Beast is 313


 No.11940

>>11744

what do you make of the total solar eclipse to be visible across the united state's coasts for the first time since 1776?


 No.11941

>>11940

https://www.timeanddate.com/eclipse/solar/1918-june-8

really makes you think

go back to facebook


 No.11942

>>11940

its a sign, revolution then, revolution now


 No.11948

>>11922

I'm curious what changes you worked on if you don't mind sharing. I want to do some long term things with bone structure but as a total mundane it's encouraging to hear what others have had success with.


 No.11959

>>11915

If I believe that I can create worlds, will I be able to?


 No.11963

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>>11948

Nothing serious, just making my body cuter, hair stuff mostly.

I think that changing bone structure is something much more harder, as hair are more… impermanent than bones. But I think that the rules of the game are the same, the variable is just the amount of energy you have to put into it.

Also, I've done healing on some internal organs, but that's a whole other story.


 No.11965

>>11935

>>11933

>>11931

>>11930

>>11929

>>11922

I'm a noob. Can you guys confirm whether my understanding is correct.

So you're saying Hindu gods like Shiva represent transcendental energies of vibration etc.

From what I understand, Kundalini represents evolutionary force.

Am I correct?


 No.11966


 No.11969

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>>11965

>Hindu gods

No. It depends on the school of thought we are having in mind. Hindu Gods generally are pretty varied and their symbolism and meaning is varied too, Shiva, Vishnu, Hanuman etc. all have plenty of differences. To say that all Hindu male Gods represent some one thing is an oversimplification.

>Shiva represent transcendental energies of vibration etc.

Now, in Tantra the focus is on Shiva and Shakti (which may sound like it was a dualistic philosophy, but it is actually monistic, as They are ultimately one) with Shiva being a passive aspect of Brahman, and Shakti being an active one. Generally everything is in the sphere of Shakti, each form, all matter, all energy, everything that is conceivable, and Shiva is a formless, transcendental observer. That is why in the text I quoted Kali is called

>His energy, the great Kali, with whom he forms an indivisible whole

So, to answer your question - no, you're wrong - Shiva in Himself has no power, and doesn't represent any energy of any sort, and this is actually a main point that is common to all tantras.

Only when Shiva is united with Shakti does he have the power to create

Saundaryalahari

O Devi, you are the measure and you measure. You are beyond measure and measurer. You are one in many forms. You are the form of the universe. I bow to you.

Kaulavali Tantra

Sadashiva is without energy (lifeless) when Mahakali is manifest. He also is like a corpse when in union with Shakti. Clearly, without Shakti, the primordial god is lifeless and cannot act.

Todala Tantra

etc.

Shiva on the other hand is the witness, passive observer. He is identified with soul (atman) - I don't remember the exact text (perhaps Kaulajnananirnaya) but it was stated that when incarnated He is called jiva (individual soul) and when freed from the bonds of incarnation He is called Shiva. It is the transcendental basis of everything that is, the subtlest consciousness itself. As Shiva and Shakti are one, thus energy (and that includes matter, mind, will, action and well… everything) and consciousness are both ultimately one too, separated only by perceived maya tattwas - 5 kanchukas that are limiting the aspects of Shiva tattwas (Shiva as pure consciousness, Shakti as pure energy and Her 3 other tattwas - ichchha - energy of Will, kriya - energy of Action, jnana - energy of knowledge) - which results in the creation of the universe.

Final liberation is attained by the knowledge that the atma is the witness, is the truth, is omnipresent, is one, free from all deluding distractions of self and not-self, the supreme, and though abiding in the body is not in the body.

Mahanirvana Tantra

>From what I understand, Kundalini represents evolutionary force

It depends by what do you mean by "evolutionary force".

Kundalini is a manifestation of Shakti in human body, it is a microscopic equivalent of that macroscopic Shakti tattwa, same as human consciousness is an equivalent of the highest consciousness - Shiva. Kundalini is the individual aspect of prana - cosmic energy.

Kundalini is para shakti, the subtlest form of energy as

well as the inseparable part of pure consciousness. Although

energy and consciousness have separated and diversified to

give rise to the whole creation, they are forever striving to

unite in the physical body, in order to re-experience the

cosmic unity from which they evolved.

Tantric symbology has employed several images to indi-

cate these two universal aspects within the physical body.

Shakti or energy, lying latent at the base of the spine, is

depicted in the form of a coiled serpent, known as kundalini.

Shiva or consciousness resides in the highest spiritual centre,

sahasrara chakra, which is situated at the top of the head in

the form of a crystal shivalingam. As the supreme energy of

kundalini is awakened through the practice of tantra, the

consciousness is freed from the matter of the body

Now, at least this is the understanding that I have now, I'm going through a nice scholarly work on Kundalini from Shaivite perspective, so it will either broaden my understanding or solidify it.


 No.11970

>>11969

This is all helpful and I'll maybe even memorize some of what you say. Could you confirm whether my following understanding is also correct?

All these gods were discovered by people in deep meditation in the past. Independent meditators connected to them and confirmed similar visions. Thus, it was established that they're universal, archetypal forces.

The type of meditation used to reach these godly realms was zazen, that is, sitting with no thought until all meaning collapses and then one recedes into the chaotic, primordial womb, the state before birth (and according to some, between death and birth).

I don't intend to go there or use psychedelic drugs, but I feel like it's my responsibility to know if this is how it works.


 No.11972

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>>11970

>All these gods were discovered by people in deep meditation in the past

Now, if this is the reference to Shiva/Shakti then it is obvious from the above considerations that they are "just" metaphysical principles, but indeed Shakti has many aspects and these aspects are individual Goddesses, all governing some part of the creation, all having certain form that a human mind can perceive and all being capable of interaction with worshiper. For example - Das Mahavidya (losely translated as Ten Great Cosmic Powers) being certain aspects of Shakti. The chief Mahavidya is Kali, and She has many aspects Herself - for example, Daksinakalika or Guhyakalika. The tantric Goddess is nevertheless one.

>Independent meditators connected to them and confirmed similar visions. Thus, it was established that they're universal, archetypal forces.

I don't know. The tantras are considered revealed scriptures and one can interact with these Godforms, but I do not know how they were first discovered. Maybe it was the other way around - recognizing archetypal forces and ascribing some deity to them. The historical evidence can point to some evolution in the modes of worship and the evolution of metaphysical concepts, but that does not shed light on the matter how the first contact came into being and also, the teachings may have been revealed accordingly to human capacity to follow them, but on the other hand certain deities (Kali for example) have a long history in which the elements of Their worship were retained in relatively the same form.

>similar visions

I don't think that the visual appearance of certain forces matters much, I think that they reveal themselves accordingly to the human capacity, and one Goddess can have various depictions, depending on the culture the worshipers hailed from (for example Goddess Tara in Hindu and Buddhist iconography, or Chinnamasta).

>The type of meditation used to reach these godly realms was zazen, that is, sitting with no thought until all meaning collapses and then one recedes into the chaotic, primordial womb, the state before birth (and according to some, between death and birth).

Maybe, as I said - I cannot know this for certain obviously. Some may believe that it was the avatars of the Deities that were incarnated to teach the mankind these things, on the other hand, the Shastra speaks of four eras (yugas) of mankind. In previous yugas humankind was supposedly more spiritually developed and much closer to Gods, but I do not know if any transmission of knowledge from one yuga to the other is possible.

Maybe the "final" versions of these deities came to being just by "trying out stuff", maybe some animistic shaman at the dawn of mankind recognized certain force as some spirit, then the perception of this spirit, through countless generations of practitioners, was refined and maybe the sphere of it's influence changed as well coming to fruition in the depictions of the entities we know today.

But, ultimately I think that this is just one system amongst many. All the systems came into being as a frame for mankind to contact these forces, the forces themselves don't need it.

All there is is just an interplay of energy, I think that one person can perceive this energy in one form, someone else in another, and the "official" rules and descriptions of forces, their function, the archetypal energies etc. are secondary to the personal experience and personal perception I think. But I don't know if these are necessarily different things of course.

So I guess my point of view is somewhere in between Deities being objectively, externally "there" and being only in our minds. But then again it all depends on the scale - at some level mind is all there is and the microcosm mirrors the macrocosm.

So yeah, dunno, just some thoughts.


 No.11973

>>11972

Also, I think that these are not "things in itself", but rather they form a frame of reference for magical and spiritual workings, so I haven't given it too much thought.


 No.11975

Excuse my interruption of this interesting Hindi deities discussion, but I have a minor question.

After 6 months of abstinence, I tried meat again because I got curious about some nutrition threads I read somewhere that the caucasian mental superiority was achieved through increased ingestion of rare meats.

Thing is, I ate it and now I feel as if stuck in full moon, it's hard to concentrate, I feel a lot more grounded, and sleep evades me.

The question is: am I manifesting this because of my preconceptions about eating meat, does it make sense?

Is the ideal diet carnivore, omnivore, vegetarian?

Shouldn't I get all the benefits of a vegetarian diet by eating good amounts of vegetables with meat?


 No.11976

>>11975

>Shouldn't I get all the benefits of a vegetarian diet by eating good amounts of vegetables with meat?

I think that the benefits of a vegetarian diet come from not eating meat and not from eating veggies.

I am a vegetarian myself for quite a few years now. I tried eating meat again few years back just to test things out, and felt sick too (lots of people have that btw). Now, you are not used to the effects of meat on your body after being vegetarian for some time, so it hits you harder. Meat is harder to digest and energetically is a lot more grounding, so I'd say that if you don't need additional grounding then do not eat meat. Also, in today's world meat is heavily processed and you not only ingest the pollutions and chemicals from the stuff that those animals ate, but you also consume the stuff that they accumulated during their lives from other sources.

Really, it seems to me that going vegetarian is the best choice, not only it is less harmful to the environment (production of meat takes more resources as you not only have to grow crops that these animals eat, but also take care of the animals during their lives, also they are pumped full of antibiotics etc.) but also is less polluted, lighter etc.

Of course a lot of the cons go for vegetarian food too, pollution, chemicals and stuff, but usually it is less harmful (biomagnification) and you have a better control over the sources from which you buy your veg food.

Killing animals is unnecessary and you can live just fine (arguably better) without meat, so it all comes down to just pleasure from eating. Now, I'm not very good at this whole energy meme, but it seems to me that eating some creature who has lived their whole life in slavery and often in poor conditions, leaves some kind of energetic trace on the stuff you are eating, so in a way, you are eating "death energy" or some other meme.

Maybe someone more into /fit/ can give you some better description of the biological effects, I'm no expert. I think it is just worth noting that vegetarian diet was heavily promoted in many spiritual traditions, even before it was all polluted and treated with chemicals. Some books state that meat has very little "pranic value" and one should ideally eat only fresh fruits and vegetables. Hatha Yoga manuals also describe similar diets, but they sometimes recommend diary food too.


 No.11980

>>11976

> have to grow crops that these animals eat

Small detail but since I keep seing this brought up I'll have to point out that the land used for growing the stuff fed to animals are low quality and can't be used for crops humans can eat. If these areas weren't used for forage it wouldn't be used at all, but would be overgrown with weeds.

Cows can digest parts of the plant humans can't, so it's actually more effective to have cattle as well as crops, you can bring use to more of the land.


 No.11981

>>11980

Thanks, that makes sense, I was wrong then.


 No.11990

>>11976

If animals leave negative energy on their meat (they do), then they would leave it on all animal product. Milk especially as cows are kept pregnant to make this possible, and for other animal products like eggs or wool they leave negative energy as they are enslaved and contained in bad conditions. There's no benefit to doing it a vegetarian diet over a vegan lifestyle.


 No.11991

Two questions

1-how the fuck do I get my sleep schedule under control

2-how do I stop eating like a mundane

Apologies for newfaggotry.


 No.11992

>>11990

If you can't dissolve the negative thoughtforms on wool products and transmute them you're a bullshit sissy wizard anyway. There is literally no reason not to use wool, it is the best fabric for cold weather. I bet you don't even use goose down or silk either.


 No.11994

>>11991

I get 25lbs of rice for $12 and it will last a month.

It's super easy to prepare rice with one of these:

https://www.amazon.com/Cuckoo-CRP-EHSS0309F-Pressure-Cooker-Metallic/dp/B0139QAKKG

I eat rice and meat and water whenever I'm hungry. I take a multivitamin. Oily food slows me down. Other foods, especially processed, I've found make me feel terrible. I like real sugar products like chocolate raisins.

I sleep whenever I feel like sleeping. Sometimes I'll take a nap before work to make working more bearable.


 No.11996

>>11922

Pretty much the best response i could have hoped for, thank you so much for you insight.


 No.11999

>>11991

>2-how do I stop eating like a mundane

>>>/fringe/291

Also bless your food. for you newfaggot ass that means project loosh/intentions/thoughtforms into the food of a constructive/empowering nature.


 No.12000

What should I avoid in meditation as to not accidentally cause or speed up kundalini-like experiences?

I've been becoming aware of certain places in the body and I notice I'm actually doing something deep here. It makes me worried I might accelerate kundalini, while I'd like it comes naturally, even if I had to wait many years or lifetimes.

Should I avoid moving awareness towards the spine? Should I avoid circulating the energy? Is circulating it DOWNWARDS the spine and upwards the front okay?


 No.12002

What is the esoteric meaning of the internet?

Something pertaining the mental plane?


 No.12003

>>12002

It's the same as what the different websites function as. A bank is a bank, a shop is a shop and a social media platform is a public meeting place.


 No.12007

>>11884

It's flat and mountains are treestumps.


 No.12008

>>11975

You say "meat" but what do you mean by that?

Meat could refer to food in general or more commonly animal organs. For the latter might you be talking about a bigmac or something that you pulled out of the wilderness an hour ago? Also something labeled as "organic grass fed beef" in a grocery store is likely several days old and handled by who knows how many people.

It might help to not think of animal organs as bad, but to think about what sort of toxins might have found their way into the organs.

The same could be said of plant matter. Try eating the cheapest, most common looking vegetables you can find and examine it when it comes back out. Now do the same with vegetables you grew in your own garden. You should note a striking difference to a point where the cheap stuff comes out black and stinky and the gardened stuff smells alive and healthy.

It should also be said that plants get their energy from the sun, animals eat those plants, and some animals eat those animals. All along the way the energy is being used up.

>>11976

>Killing animals is unnecessary and you can live just fine (arguably better) without meat, so it all comes down to just pleasure from eating.

That sounds good and all but many people do not live on or near tropical permacultured land, and those that do, for various reasons, tend to ruin the land so that one cannot walk around easily collecting food everywhere and at any time.

You might want to take a look at the American indians diets as found by the Europeans when sailing over. Even those who were farming various plants also hunted and trapped animals, and still had issues with food shortages, particularly further north.

A deer will turn indigestible (to you) plant matter into something that you can digest.


 No.12029

>>12000 (checked)

I honestly just went nuts with my energy work when I was first exploring it, testing which parts of my body conducted energy slower than the others, trying to move awareness from my toes to the top of my head as fast as possible without just jumping there.

Never had any adverse effects from it.

If you're this worried about it just don't move large amounts of energy up your spine. Everything in front/middle of your body where your chakras are located should be fair game so feel free to activate your dan tiens and spin chakra spheres to your heart's content. Experiencing the heat from your dan tien spreading through your body for the first time is going to be a real treat.


 No.12030

>>12029

>front/middle

>chakras are located

Chakras are just meditative tools and are what and where you want them to be. At least in the original texts, their location was not in front but on the spine, as they were pierced by the raising Kundalini, which is coiled at the base of the spine.

>>12000

I'd wager I guess that you do not know a thing about the real Kundalini. To accidentally have a Kundalini ascension would be something unbelievably rare.

>Should I avoid circulating the energy?

One of the methods for raising Kundalini was merging prana and apana, so I guess that unless you do that, then no, no need to avoid that.


 No.12032

>>12031

>actual research

And what research exactly do you have in mind?

>quote garbage texts

Quoting garbage pics is better.

>Chakras are high density concentration points in the energy body that operate on ascending frequencies

You can experience any number of chakras you wish, try it out sometime.

I just prefer traditional modes of working and enjoy them quite much. There are 5 chakra systems, 7 chakra systems, 8 chakra systems etc. There is no one system, because chakras aren't something objective. If someone only ever worked with 5 chakra system then it will be the way they experience it.

http://www.tantrikstudies.org/blog/2016/2/5/the-real-story-on-the-chakras

Nice blog article about this.


 No.12033

>>12032

Hey faggot, remember how I did the secret ritual?

Yeah, turns out the secret organ is responsible for the whole lower chakras and energy in general - I'd even equal it with the dan tien. It became pretty obvious to me, I've spend more than half a year focusing on that region now.

Lately I had another funny phenomenon with the secret organ and now I feel like a 14 yo boy again - l Iiterally timetraveled and my body feels exactly the same like back then. Incredible.

Not sure if this is really good though. Although my heart and solar plexus chakras became more active, I have also diminished sexual prowess now.

Right now I'm trying to figure a way to shift chakra activity with breathing techniques. Do you happen to know any for the lower chakras that involve the secret organ as well?


 No.12038

does anyone have an illustration or visual representation of the tetrapolar magnet? I'm having a hard time grasping it


 No.12039

>>12038

I've never understood it either. Someone once told me that it doesn't make sense in the English version because the translator did a bad job, but I think it just doesn't make sense, period.


 No.12040

>>12033

>Hey faggot, remember how I did the secret ritual?

Haha, yeah I remember. I see that you developed into a real faggot magician since then :^)

Yeah, secret ritual has a lot of pros compared to… umm normal ritual? You don't lose as much energy and instead you are just being able to circulate it freely, a friend explained it to me in Yin and Yang terms.

>Do you happen to know any for the lower chakras that involve the secret organ as well?

I'm not sure I understand the question, do you want to know if I know of any chakras that were said to correspond to the secret organ? Most original texts don't really go into much detail into "correspondences", they usually describe certain practices connected to some particular chakra (or to all of them) and siddhis coming from it. Most of the correspondences (like those at the pic few posts above) are purely a New Age addition. Nevertheless, some correspondences were present in the source materials AFAIK (save for the correspondences with various entities presiding over certain chakra, or even certain petals of the one chakra which are present in all the texts as Tantra deals primarily with work with entities) but I haven't really studied the topic of chakras that much to be able to give you some concrete information.

In the original context (the only one I feel at least slightly knowledgeable about) chakras were meditative tools for internalizing various powers and working with them or they were utilized in pranayama. Some texts view chakras solely in relation to Kundalini and are not concerned with them "on their own".


 No.12041

>>12033

>>12040

>I've spend more than half a year focusing on that region now

But then again, depends on what you mean by that. Certain texts described just that - meditation on a specific chakra for lengthy period of time and siddhis that come from it.


 No.12042

>>12040

>an actual faggot

>insulting people by calling them faggots

I've seen some shit.


 No.12043

>>12042

And what do you think we are talking about anon?


 No.12045

How do I become an armchair occultist who pretends to be all-knowing and superior in both knowledge and prowess while actually being a NEET who has never meditated and sits on the computer all day eating hotpockets and writing out long-winded posts of pure bullshit? No bully bls, this is serious question.


 No.12046

>>12045

Think you're doing it pretty well right now m8.


 No.12082

>>11746

no

Anyone have any theories for what effect on medicine was caused by making the sigil for medicine a Caduceus instead of the staff of Asclepius?


 No.12083

>>12000

Yea just don't do it intentionally and you'll be fine.

It's a 'sleeping serpent' and will awaken only with effort.


 No.12084

>>11936

i thought it was 616


 No.12087

>>12040

> Most original texts don't really go into much detail into "correspondences", they usually describe certain practices connected to some particular chakra

Eh, actually the chakra idea is designed for plebs who know no anatomy.

The truth imo is that by focusing on a certain chakra-region, you'll raise blood flow to the organs in the area. Blood being the elixir of life, it has a beneficial effect.

Combined with breathing exercises, that also make the blood flowing, this is the whole idea behind chakras.

I was actually just asking for a breathing exercise for the lower chakras/ dan tien

>Some texts view chakras solely in relation to Kundalini and are not concerned with them "on their own".

I haven't delved into kundalini yet

>>12042

>an actual mundane

>insulting people by calling them mundane words

I'm not even surprised, step it up you fucking sheeple.


 No.12088

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>>12087

>this is the whole idea behind chakras

That is quite a mundane explanation IMHO. I think that it is about directing prana and about one-pointed awareness.

But never mind, for the technique - there are some, but start with learning siddhasana and moola bandha I think.

Moola Bandha (perineal contraction)

>Sit in siddhasana or siddha yoni asana so that pressure is applied to the perineal/vaginal region.

>The area to be contracted is the physical location of mooladhara chakra.

>For men this is located in the perineum, between the anus and the sexual organ.

>For women, the trigger-point is located behind the cervix where the uterus and vagina meet.

>Close the eyes and relax the whole body.

>Inhale deeply, retain the breath inside and contract the perineal/vaginal muscles as tightly as possible, without strain.

>Maintain awareness in this region, perform 5 contractions, then exhale.

>At first practice short contractions and as control improves increase the duration of the contraction.

It allows for prana retention in that area.

I've searched some books for you and there are some pranayamas for mooladhara chakra specifically, but I'm not that knowledgeable in them and don't know which one should I recommend, so why don't you just start by straight up basic "breathing energy" into it? Visualize each breath entering you and dispersing throughout the whole body, going into adhara chakra. Inhale into it and exhale from it, sensitize yourself for any impressions and feelings you may get, watch for any feeling of "vibration" there, if you feel it then become more aware of it and aim to maximize it. Do it with or without moola bandha, just try it out.

You can also do it for the Svadhisthana chakra which also may correspond to the area we are interested in, but I think that you should focus on root chakra.

Any tips on how to achieve the body of a 14yo using the frequent application of the secret ritual and the subsequent stimulation of this secret organ which is the most precious gem any boi has? :^)


 No.12089

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>>12088

Also, aim to be feeling as if you were really breathing in and from the chakra. If you do breath retention then visualize prana being absorbed in this center during that time (or in the secret organ if you wish). At the end of every session affirm that you are now more aware of this part of your subtle body.

^ now, this whole technique is not the Official Tantrik™ technique but something I came up with on my own, but there is some material suggesting that it might have been used… or it's just what I tell myself in order to remain pure and true to the original sources in my eyes :^)

Regardless, you can combine it with nadi shuddhi and usually nadi shuddhi is a prerequisite for any pranayama as you need to have pure energy channels (nadis) in order to get the whole benefit of any practice, but isn't it all about blood anyway for you? Well, I'm just saying that you might want to take a look at it sweetie.


 No.12091

Looking for the book

It's about how great world wars were Mother-of-god cults rivalry.


 No.12093

>>12045

>writing out long-winded posts of pure bullshit

This actually doesn't happen. You just think it's BS because you're an armchair occultist neet.

If you had some real life experience of life and the occult you'd know most of it is real, even if people are discussing stupid details of it from a dumb viewpoint, it doesn't make the topic itself less legit.


 No.12095

>>12093

I see that you are already taking my question into practice. Teach me to be a bullshit sissy wizard like you.


 No.12096

>>12082

>Anyone have any theories for what effect on medicine was caused by making the sigil for medicine a Caduceus instead of the staff of Asclepius?

Hermes is the god of TRADE, THEIVES, and THE UNDERWORLD. Well I'll be damned if that doesn't sound like the (((medical system))) in general. Really makes you think, fellow goyim.


 No.12097

>>12095

omg ur so cute!!!!!!!!


 No.12098

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>>12002

Watch Serial Experiments Lain and/or if you can find /pol/ thread archives related to Tay.

>>12096

Get your hermetic D&C outta here.


 No.12122

Have you guys ever tried using magic to meet girls IRL (not succubus btw)?

I've been experimenting over the year with this, I've had some success but it never perfectly works out.


 No.12123

>>12098

lol is that the unabomber manifesto on the left


 No.12124

>>12123

To the bluepill it's certainly very context expanding, so very possibly.


 No.12130

>>12088

>That is quite a mundane explanation IMHO.

Energy work is pretty useless if it doesn't manifest in the physical. And concerning the human body that is blood flow and muscle contractions mainly.

>Moola Bandha (perineal contraction)

Thanks, it sounds good. Will try it out.

>Any tips on how to achieve the body of a 14yo using the frequent application of the secret ritual

I haven't performed the ritual since the incident and neither do I plan to. Also I have misinterpreted my condition, sorry.

The truth is that I seemed to suffer from BPH. The effects are astonishing. Even my belly became very flat and cute but it's not fucking worth it because the negative sides outweigh the positive at some level of intensity.

Care well for the organ, it is indeed very precious Stop poking it with things, I'm serious


 No.12134

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>>12130

>Energy work is pretty useless if it doesn't manifest in the physical. And concerning the human body that is blood flow and muscle contractions mainly.

It seemed to me that you implied that there is nothing else save for the physical side of things, while I think that it is the least important of the effects of pranayama/energy work.

>The effects are astonishing

The effects of what? Your condition?

>Even my belly became very flat and cute but it's not fucking worth it because the negative sides outweigh the positive at some level of intensity.

My belly is already very flat and very cute :^)

>Care well for the organ, it is indeed very precious

I do! But I don't think that secret rituals are harmful to it in any way.

Have you thought about fixing yourself with magic? AND/OR with an application of a secret ritual, as it is used in treating your problem?


 No.12136

>>12134

>while I think that it is the least important of the effects of pranayama/energy work.

The physical body and the energy body are merely temporary vessels. I see no point in fueling it with energy work besides physical maintenance.

>The effects of what? Your condition?

Yes. It's frightening how one single ailment can change the whole perception of life. It helped me to see all the distractions that this physical existence brings.

>My belly is already very flat and very cute :^)

Mine is too manly for gay shit :—-D

>But I don't think that secret rituals are harmful to it in any way.

Well, it was for me. Take care

>Have you thought about fixing yourself with magic?

I listened to my intuition and cured myself with diet and herbs already. not real magic but whatever


 No.12138

C-Can I go to a fantasy themed world when I die?


 No.12139

>>11888

Zacharia Stitchin


 No.12146

>>12138

you're in a fantasy themed world right now. after death you'll go to another fantasy themes world and you will spend your life there wishing to go to some other fantasy themed world


 No.12147

>>12146

But will it have elves?


 No.12148

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how accurate is this?


 No.12151

>>12147

This world here has, let's say, dolphins. If you became conditioned to dolphins in this world already, what makes you think you will enjoy elves in your next life?


 No.12156

>>12130

>Energy work is pretty useless if it doesn't manifest in the physical.

Only after years of practice in that area could I actually effect the physical world in such a great way I could see it in real time. For years it was on such a small scale it was practically invisible or would take weeks or months to see it's physical form become manifest yet determination allowed me to eventually get there.


 No.12157

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>>12148

well, yours is prettier


 No.12158

>>12148

>>12157

#bullshitoccultism


 No.12164

is tinnitus magick in anyway, that non physical ringing in your head that won't go away


 No.12165

>>12158

how so?


 No.12167

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>>12164

Usually a problem with the kidneys. Imagine the front of you is east and back is west. Feel the northwest and southwest angles of the body around the sides of your back to feel how the kidneys connect to the ears.

All problems connect to energy or conscious problems. Take note of where you might be straining, excessively spending or under recovering and assimilating.

Breath meditation will energize the body but it will only hold awareness for so long until you've strengthened the channels via exercise.


 No.12172

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>>12164

Speaking of ear problems.

>have perfectly normal vision and hearing all my life

>a month or two I started noticing that my left ear hears a little worse than the right

>go to ear doctor, does the test

>says it's just barely worse than the right ear and is actually better than the right at higher frequencies

>most people have this and normally don't notice the difference unless specifically tested like I was

Thanks /fringe/, I've started noticing various imperfections of my body after becoming more attuned to it.

Why did I have to get drawn to the esoteric instead of living in blissful ignorance like the masses?


 No.12174

>>12172

Ignorance is a shield, but it's never a sword my friend.


 No.12182

Developing precognition here. Having decent success so far. The problem is that I am successful only in seeing banal and random things. I'm aware of the theories regarding timelines fluctuating and also altering the future. As of right now I am trying to hone precognition as a skill and go from there.

My next step forwards is exploring a hypothesis I created a while back. Bare with me here in case I sound vague. My hypothesis revolves around information on the future as the future supposedly existing on the astral, and being able to access this information while dreaming. I base this on numerous dreaming sessions where I saw something that was seemingly trivial and then later experienced it ala that sensation some might feel when experiencing a synchronicity. I have very good dream memory and I keep a very detailed dream journal. The only problem is that when trying to prove to people I foresaw something, it looks awfully unconvincing to point to a journal entry and say I saw that brief, random, and otherwise pointless moment a day, a week, a month, or even a year in advance and forgot about it.

So my next challenge is to see if I can find a way to tap into that channel or frequency so to speak where I acquire information of the future, even if it is a possible future. If I can do that with relative precision, I can later test if I can alter the future. Needless to say that may be a long way off. So my question is, does some method exist, where one can hone in on either a particular astral source or setting OR channel the "feeling" of experiencing a synchronicity and sort of "reverse-engineering" it for meditation?


 No.12187

>>12182

That's deja-vu you're talking about, isn't it?

It's pretty dank but I figured that the practical precognition doesn't work through dreams but through vague feelings. But this is limited to events to are about to happen and never covers greater time-spans.


 No.12188

So is there actually any magical power in being a virgin over 30?


 No.12190

>>12151

Maybe I will, maybe I won't.

My question is: are there or not worlds like the ones we idealized in fiction?


 No.12192

>>12188

If the other option is being a man whore, yes. You're not supporting the degenerated practices that makes use of sexual promiscuity. Consider any action spiritual or occult, whatever you do as a human is somehow connected to different spirits, connecting you to a larger system. If you're a virgin you are free from those connections tying people up and stealing their energy.

It has nothing to do with being 30+ tho. If you engage with someone of the opposite sex you'll see how all your free time suddenly disappears into nothing. Where do you think it went?


 No.12193

share your experience with takings meds.

did they close your connection to what-is-beyond? I know you can reach such level of depression where your imagination will be closed. Is meds a way out of such situation.


 No.12194

>>12192

Pretty much this. Don't worry about sex stuff unless you meet someone you feel really good with, share interests, can open your heart to etc. I wouldn't have sex with someone not into magic for sure. Sex can either be beneficial to your progress (sex magic for example) or not. And most of the time it is not and it is safer to just live in celibacy saving yourself for that perfect someone At least that's what I'm telling myself ;_;

>>12193

"Meds" is such a broad category. I'd say it depends on the drug in question, but SSRIs are pretty much shitty and not worth it 99% of the time imho. Also, I understand that you are asking only about legal substances?

>did they close your connection to what-is-beyond?

They didn't.

>Is meds a way out of such situation.

A possible way, but as far as the only and the best way is considered - no.

Meditation is way better in every respect when it comes to helping you out when you are in a bad spot, but some pharmacological support MAY go a long way too, if you are unable to cope. But as I said - it depends. It depends on the med in question, on the person, on their problem etc.

I've been taking various SSRI for depression on and off for some time in the past and I must say, after all, that it wasn't worth it. I haven't suffered any long-term damage from taking them, but the thing that helped me was meditation and magix general and not drugs. In fact some of the meds only made things worse. The only drug I wouldn't mind taking and that actually helped me in some way was mirtazapine, but it's not a "typical" antidepressant.

Are you just asking theoretically or are you in a bad spot yourself? Share your story if you feel like it, I may be able to help.


 No.12196

>>12194

Sodomy is not sex.


 No.12197

>>12196

It is.


 No.12199

>>12197

Sodomy is not sex.

Loving shit on your dick is not love.


 No.12201

>>12199

>thinking you are the one to define what love is or isn't

>thinking that boys can't clean up their assholes

>loving… is not love

Okay, I'm going to bite - why do you think it isn't?

==It is.==


 No.12203

>>12201

Probably because a book says so

and it's degargonaut or something


 No.12206

>>12203

I probably hate gay degeneracy more than he does so well, it's all about the book.


 No.12210

>>12206

>can't stop himself from encouraging someone to put things in his ass or be otherwise suggestive half the time he posts

>claims to hate gay degeneracy

I loathe to be grouped with people like you.


 No.12215

>>12210

What a prude. And you call yourself enlightened.


 No.12216

>>12210

You realize it's 2017 right? The best way to get close to God is to stick cocks up your ass, wake up /pol/tard.


 No.12218

when does the age of Aquarius end, I know it started in the last couple hundred years and trump can't be the end of it


 No.12219

>>12218

drumpf is going to be assassinated next week don't worry


 No.12220

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>>12219

Then we'll give shock therapy to all the indigo pills of the world with Mike "Electric Fence" Pence.


 No.12224

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>>12219

Kek

The kikes are currently on damage control right now and their downward spiral isn't going to be stopping anytime soon. Even if Trump does get assassinated, they would just be digging their graves faster.

You are welcome to try though.


 No.12227

I've only just realized that there's a vampire section of pdfs in the library sticky. Has anyone read any of the stuff within? What you think of it?

I've skimmed through one of its Vampyre_Magick pdfs and it all seems to me the well and truly familiar affirmations/invokations/evokations/astral travel/Golden Dawn tier rituals but with a vampire twist added on.


 No.12228

>>12187

It is very related to deja vu but the reason why I qualify it as (mild or developing) precognition and why it isn't actually deja vu is that deja vu is both the sensation of having seen what you're experiencing before and having no actual fore-knowledge of the event. Whereas I have previously seen events both in and out of dreams (I forgot to mention that last part). It is highly likely that their relation does not end by mere attribution, I believe that by harnessing the same channel so-to-speak where fragments of future events are communicated, I and someone else can perhaps tap into fore-knowledge and develop that skill into precognition. Thus it is likely that if deja vu is a similar but otherwise distinct phenomena, it is also possible that people who have experienced it have experienced what I have but do not remember the exact moment they foresaw that event.


 No.12231

>>12227

The /energy manipulation kept me from even looking, but now I see like half of it is temple of the vampire stuff and the rest seems to be the same type of spiritual vampirism. I'm not saying it isn't legit, I'm just not interested in it, it's all based on finding out if your soul is part of the reincarnated vampires and it's not really useful for people outside this group.

Actually joining doesn't seem to happen, I'm assuming like other forms of vampirism it's referred back to some original ritual that noone remembers how to perform, so they literally don't know how to recruit by adding someone to the group, they're just looking for the people who are already in to reconnect them in every lifetime.


 No.12232

>>12227

This folder has only one book that accurately describes what a "vampire" really is.


 No.12233

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>>12194

my story

>suffered from depression && panic attacks at 17, 18

>four months ago understood that it might be mercury poisoning from 7 mercury fillings

>got them changed

>didn't do enough research

>changed with 'white composite' aka Bisphenol-A/Xenoestrogenes

>situation got worse

>panicked

>checked my estrodiol.70 pg/ml (norm is up to 30pg/ml).

>panicked even more

>decided to remove teeth altogether

>mom found out

>major conflict. they called doctors on me

>one month in a funny house. hard yellowpilling with various meds(olanzopine, ..)

>just got out

My imagination is locked, I'm framed as paranoid schizophrenic and no one believes me that teeth is the reason.

>'Yo, everyone has these composite fillings, yet no one has symptoms like you'

I decided try quetiapine. It helped me year ago, I was much more relaxed and in control.

it is hard to meditate when your imagination is locked.. I feel tense. The only thing helped me were microdoses of shrooms.I believe, it activated my pineal - I got ideas and imagination back. Now I'm waiting Gluthatione to arrive and I'll try to detox. and I'm looking for a clinic to change teeth fillings to porcelain.


 No.12234

>>12215

Not me. That anon never called himself enlightened for all I know.

>>12210

What is degenerate about putting things in your ass? Serious question.

Well, I don't like sexual promiscuity, and that's what I meant about me hating "gay degeneracy" as it pains me greatly that so many gay people are just mindless mundanes and all I want is just monogamous magix bf. Also, degeneracy is a meme.

>I loathe to be grouped with people like you.

What do you mean? I don't feel grouped with you, don't know why you should.

also

>> be otherwise suggestive half the time he posts

I only talk about gay shit if the topic is mentioned by someone else. It's not like I'm just writing "hey guys, I'm gay, look at me, I'm so gay". Don't know why, but it is very often brought up by someone else, people are still getting triggered so easily.

>>12233

Well, at some point in life I tried olanzapine and didn't suffer from "imagination lock" (but I only used really low dosages) so it is perhaps something particular to your situation and not to the meds in question, or some other drug caused it as that sounds like something a shrink would do to people.

>it is hard to meditate when your imagination is locked

I'd imagine it is easier, as you don't have as many distractions. What kind of meditation are you talking about?

Don't worry, there will be no permanent damage AFAIK so it will only get better from this point.


 No.12235

I think you guys are best suited to answer my question.

I was lying in my bed, fully awake. (As in consciouscly awake and aware of my surroundings.) I do not know how late it was exactly but it was early in the morning, maybe around 8 AM? I wanted to get up because I slept enough but then I heard a voice in my right ear and getting curious as to what it wants to say/do I temporarily abandoned the thoughts of getting up, cleared my mind and just observed as if I was just a bystander.

The voice started to talk in a language which I can not understand apart from a few parts which I could understand. (My mother tongue is german but the parts that I was able to understand were all in english, the rest sounded like gibberish.)

First said voice started to talk softly and very quietly, then it blew into my ear gently. (Like in those ASMR videos.) This escalated into ear licking shortly after. I felt my ear becoming hot, but not wet.

After a while I started thinking "This might not be so bad, it's pretty comfortable". And things got… worse/better then. Depends on how you look at it.

I heard a second voice, the same female voice as the first. However there is a difference between the 2 as in the first sounded like it was INSIDE my ear while the second sounded as if it came from a person in front of me. (Keep in mind I was still lying on my back)

That first voice also had some understandable parts with the majority not understandable. The word that I remember is "nude". Said voice then started to "hold me down". But it didn't feel like I would be unable to move if I wanted to and my head was still completely clear without any distractions. I was still aware of my surroundings, my body and my thoughts so I didn't think of it as bad. Most importantly it was more softly holding down, as if that voice was afraid of hurting me or scaring me. I felt 2 hands, one on my right shoulder and one on my left upper arm. The second voice also seemed to switch positions from further away and coming closer, as if it couldn't decide which part of my body to pay attention to. My face or my nether regions. In the end it settled on my face and started kissing me, I completely felt it and because I didn't feel like losing energy, stamina or anything else I just let it keep doing whatever it is doing. After all there is no reason to hurt something that isn't hurting you, no? It also licked my lower neck and upper chest a little bit. (above nipple area)

When all of it stopped after a while the 2 voices merged into one and it told me in the same female UNDERSTANDABLE voice that if I want more I would have to agree to marry her. After which they then vanished.

As for how I know I was completely and consciously awake:

I heard my PC in the background, which is weird considering I turned it off before I've gone to sleep. But that's the third time it happened that I can remember so I didn't pay much attention to it. I felt the airflow on my left arm and also my blanket and other parts of my bed while everything else was dark as I had my eyes closed the entire time.

I don't know if this is of any help but when I woke up at night I know I heard something to my right that sounded like wind blowing paper around or something walking on the floor. But there is a wall to my right so that can not be. I still opened my eyes and took a look but apart from my cushion there wasn't anything else so I thought "Maybe I'll just lie down on that spot". And I also do meditate every night for around 10 minutes to 1 hour, before I try to fall asleep.

Now to my question: Did I just got violated by a spirit or succubus? Keep in mind I did not try to summon anything as first I do not have any confidence in succeeding nor do I have any confidence in things not going completely south.

Please excuse me if I chose the wrong thread, but I'm not sure what exactly it was.


 No.12236

>>12235

Did you take part in/take interest in the succubus collective thread on /loosh/?

Either way this is probably related, as you're here on fringechan.

> if I want more I would have to agree to marry her

She wants your soul and to take you with her from here, now or when you die from old age. If that sounds like something you want, you only need to express it clearly aimed at her and it counts as a deal, she made a pretty clear offer.


 No.12237

>>12236

I'm not selling my soul to a succubus or a spirit. What is mine is mine, what is supposed to be mine will be mine and what isn't mine will never be mine.

I did take some interest in succubi culture, summoning and the like. But only as general knowledge, not for actually summoning. And the only thread I have read so far is the one here on /fringe/, not the one one /loosh/.


 No.12238

>>12237

Aggressive marketing has proven successful, so why wouldn't they try it too.

>What is mine is mine, what is supposed to be mine will be mine and what isn't mine will never be mine.

Ah.. that's a pretty good statement if you want someone to misinterpret it or find loopholes.

>supposed to be mine

and

>isn't mine

can easily be used to capture someone, just saying.

>but anon, you're supposed to belong to me, you don't own yourself


 No.12239

>>12238

I know it can be misinterpreted but the important part here is: My soul right now is mine. And as it is mine it will always be mine because I decided so.

One day it might not be mine anymore. But as long as I am the one deciding then it will always be mine and nobody can interfere, simply because I will not let them.

The supposed to be mine part refers to the future. One day, something that has more power over me than I do it could decide my soul is no longer mine, but that would also mean my soul was never mine to begin with. You can put this into a loop if you like, I however am fully convinced that as long as I am what I am then nobody and nothing will get hold of my soul.

>but anon, you're supposed to belong to me, you don't own yourself

Wouldn't that show itself in the future? If that is correct then indeed, it would become that way. But only when the time is right.


 No.12246

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>>12239

> as long as I am the one deciding then it will always be mine

>something that has more power over me than I do it could decide my soul is no longer mine

>my soul was never mine to begin with

> nobody and nothing will get hold of my soul

…other than its rightful owner, whoever that is, right?

It seems to have worked pretty good, you're already stating conditions for when you would give up your soul.

This is the reason you were approached, you're an obvious candidate for capture.

It's not good or bad, it's just the way it is.


 No.12248

>>12246

>you're an obvious candidate for capture

Yes, you might be correct about that. But even then I will never give up to keep what I believe is rightfully mine. And I believe my soul belongs only to me and nobody/nothing else. Those spirits could give even fancier words and promises, they would still not get what is mine.

And even if they are stronger than me and can wrest it wrongfully away from me, if I can't have what is rightfully mine then nobody can. Before my soul, and in turn I, become someone elses posession I would rather destroy myself.

It isn't that this statement has loopholes, it is that it needs you to be utterly and completely convinced of things that are yours. For example: What do you believe is rightfully yours and nobody elses? Something that no matter what you would never be willing to give up because you are completely convinced it is yours? For me that is my entire being. My (current) body, my physical soul and my spiritual soul. That is what I mean with "What is mine is mine."

"What is supposed to be mine will be mine." refers to whatever is in the future. A good example would be my future body, after reincarnation or even knowledge that I learn in books. (In the case of knowledge you can link this to "When the student is ready, the master appears")

"What isn't mine will never be mine" refers to things that do not fall in the earlier mentioned categories. An example is your body. Your body does not show any indication of being supposed to be mine and neither is it mine right now, but yours. Thus it will never be mine.


 No.12249

>>12248

> I believe

Shows you are not fully convinced of this.

> I would rather destroy myself.

There's your main flaw. This is why you can be captured. Generally they are looking for one of 2 things

>suicidal thinking/self harm

>acceptance of male homosexuality

Both of those traits can be easily taken advantage of in the formation of a contract unfavourable for the captee.


 No.12250

>>11744

is there a way to travel into a specific parallel universe?


 No.12251

>>12249

"believe" is the word I chose. If you wish you can use the word "know" instead. What matters is not what word you use, what matters is whether you are or you are not convinced. You either are or you are not. And I am.

>suicidal thinking

That's not what I meant. I meant that I am free (To do what I want with what is mine) and it is impossible for me to be me if I am not free. That is what the destruction boils down to.

Of course you could also be correct in your sense. But is there anything else you might know about what happened this night? If they try to harm me, my posessions or wrest away from me what is mine then I will slay them. Plain and simple.


 No.12252

>>12251

>What matters is not what word you use

Dealing with demonic entities has shown me this is exactly what matters. If you made any claim at all they will twist it to mean whatever they want it to mean, and they will find ways to make you defend your words in a way that further exposes your weaknesses. If you change the meaning of what you said even slightly by using a different word the next time any incosistancy will be used to point out how you either lied the first time or the next, or that you simply do not know what you are talking about. The only way to stay safe is to examine your statements with this in mind before typing them out or expressing them, or they will have you making uncontrollable rants to the point where you're saying exactly what they want you to. A deal is a deal if you agree to it once, changing your mind later won't undo it.

> is there anything else you might know about what happened this night?

I'm interpreting it based on my previous experiences and what happened to other anons (not specific for /fringe/). I have yet to decide what will come of this, I don't really see you turning either way yet.

> If they try to harm me, my posessions or wrest away from me what is mine then I will slay them.

They will not take what is yours, they will make you agree that it actually isn't. It all happens by free will. You can't slay someone who owns souls, there is nothing to aim at. If you aim at the main entity they will change place with one of their slave souls, making you the criminal for attacking an innocent. If you strike at one of the souls first, you're still at fault. Maybe you don't care about being right or wrong - well then that's even worse. All of this is to expose your flaws and use them against you. Considering the professional approach used they probably did this successfully many times before.

Succubus and related entities are master trolls.


 No.12253

>>12250

If you have a flying saucer.


 No.12257

What's the /fringe/ interpretation of the moon or moonlight? I believe Gurdjieff says that as long as people follow their autopilot, they will "become food for the moon" or something. What do other /fringe/-related people have to say regarding the moon?


 No.12258

>>12233

Sorry that happened to you. Weston A Price tried to warn everyone of the teeth filling scam but his research got buried. For any hormone problems, try DIM or look for estrogen metabolism supplements (even women need these because of excess estrogenuous substances in the environment), and keyword: aromatase enzyme inhibitor. Get vitamin d3 and consume at least 5000IU with a saturated fat food substance like organic butter or milk. That should give you a good start but there's definitely a lot more to it than that.


 No.12261

>>12250

>is there a way to travel into a specific parallel universe?

http://montalk.net/matrix/112/realm-dynamics

>>12257

>What's the /fringe/ interpretation of the moon or moonlight?

http://montalk.net/matrix/114/food-for-the-moon


 No.12266

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>>12219

>be asshurt kike

>hate on trump ending deception and being powerless for the rest of the age

>later die in an oven


 No.12269

>>12266

>2050

>all jews have been exterminated

>/pol/ still believes there are jews because other /pol/acks continue to pretend to be kikes

Poe's Law, or Shlomo's Law?


 No.12272

>go to regular dentist checkup

>finds weird as permanent tooth growing under my normal permanent tooth

>do scan

>turns out I have 4 extra permanent teeth in my jaw

>tells me it's fucking weird and can send me to some surgeon expert to extract them by cutting my gums open

>they don't really bother me so I decline

I've managed to regrow broken bones in the past, accelerating normal healing by over two weeks but I've never tried melting tissue away. I could probably try to localize some dark destructive energy into the extra teeth (which will highly likely cause excruciating pain as they're broken down) but I'd like to hear some more wizards' thoughts on the matter.

Doesn't matter if you tried to melt your own or someone else's bones btw, please share your experiences.


 No.12274

>>12234

>I'd imagine it is easier, as you don't have as many distractions.

I can't relax really. Tension builds when I try to meditate.

>>12258

>>12258

Thanks, bro. I'll look up to that. I'm getting them changed in two weeks. With bio-compatible porcelain. Though there is some cement they use, though it still better than bisphenol-a in my mouth. Shit, 70 pg/ml estrodiol!! And then they call me paranoid schizophenic. 'everyone have them'.

>>12257

Moon - Ice, Snow, Winter, Thule.

Sun - Fire, Egypt, Summer, Atlantis.


 No.12275

>>12272

I've read about reports, mostly alchemically related, of people growing new teeth that push their old ones out. This can happen when consuming highly purified yet not quite perfected elixirs.

The reason being that the soul & flesh would be empowered to regenerate so fast that it's swifter and easier to make a new tooth than to fix the old one. I've also read accounts of similar happening with finger and toenails, and feathers for birds (so presumable hair for humans too?).


 No.12276

What /fringe/ thinks about self hypnosis? Do you have any recommendation? I want to reprogram my mind to be braver.


 No.12277

>>12276

At first I read "I want to be a beaver" and I laughed.

Ok, I think there's some threads on self hypnosis on the /div/ board, also some texts on self-dowsing in the libraries. Go check and ctrl-F relevant terms: hypnosis, dowsing, reprogram, etc.


 No.12278

>>12277

Thanks, bud.


 No.12280

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>>12275

Unless you count fresh cold pressed juice every morning and reverse osmosis water as elixirs I didn't really consume anything out of the ordinary.

Plus it's not like I've ever had any tooth problems, never had a drill even come close to my mouth, every time I go to the dentist once a year it's just for routine cleaning since all my teeth are healthy.

Shitty blurry picture taken with shaky hands so you can only see 2 of them. Also my question on melting bones/teeth still stands. Guess limb regeneration isn't all that impossible but I'd rather not test it.


 No.12281

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>>12280

>do no fap and transmute your generative energy into regenerative energy anon

>don't worry anon you'll feel refreshed and healthy

No fap, not even once.


 No.12284

>>12280

Why focus on destroying your bones/tissues when you could focus on restoring a normal or prefered state?


 No.12286

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>>12284

Because the ability to melt someone else's bones away sounds pretty exciting.


 No.12287

If magic is real why are there no videos of people walking on water?

Checkmate fringists.


 No.12288

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>>12287

Plausible deniability for preservation and maximization of universal freewill.


 No.12294

>>12288

Also, even wizards underestimate how hard it is to walk on water. Truly adept occultists are rare.. If anything, the people who could walk on water, probably wouldn't.


 No.12295

>>12287

If there were let me quote the comments on it

>nice blurry potato cam you had there

or, if crystal clear sharp

>nice CG


 No.12297

>>12287

I know that's a troll question, but still, I undertand why anyone would doubt magic if in this modern age where everything is on video there is little evidence of its existence that doesn't require personal experience.

>>12288

valid answer

>>12294

Are they rare or are they nonexistant? Where are they and why aren't they teaching the willing? This is truly frustrating. All these low-level magicians but no true adepts? Just why? Where is Hogwarts? Where is the path of the occult that upon witnessing will leave you flabbergasted and make you willing to learn it?

>>12295

That's a terrible excuse. At least some beginners would at least get motivated. Also, documenting something that is undeniably magical will undeniably attract threats.


 No.12298

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>>12294

You know I was once told by a yogi

in a dream that "the problem with people who try to walk on water is they focus on the surface, but that's not where the center is." Take it as you will, I know I'm not there yet.

>>12297

>Are they rare or are they nonexistant?

Underground mostly well figuratively, more often actually they are in the mountains, the deserts, the remote places in nature.

>Where are they and why aren't they teaching the willing?

When you find them in the physical, if you are ready (which you probably wouldn't have seen them except maybe in passing otherwise) they will teach you. You can get spiritual support anytime though and it can be just as effective. I stopped being so picky.

>This is truly frustrating. All these low-level magicians but no true adepts?

When the student is ready, the master will appear. And at and for the appropriate level, no need to have a grand master tutor an acolyte, an initiate will due just as well.

>Just why?

They are called mystery schools for a reason. It's an inherent higher calling, away from the baser trials of existence, something for the few. This is not intentional obfuscation however given the abject rejection of the masses it's just the result, when the majority desire to make a reality they will fill it as they please, perhaps much to the chagrin of one living immersed in normalfag culture.

It's all there, it's also just so subtle we mistake it or even misperceive.

>Where is Hogwarts?

You're posting there.

>Where is the path of the occult that upon witnessing will leave you flabbergasted and make you willing to learn it?

That comes when you've experienced the irrefutable proof of the power that lies in in stillness, in silence, in the universal breath. These words seem but poetic fancy and I'm afraid that's all I can offer you. I can't do it for you. All I can say is

>A great teacher never strives to explain her vision; she simply invites you to stand beside her and see it for yourself.

And >>>/fringe/3 Do them. The visualization based ones if you're good, else wise start with basic awareness focusing and then manipulation.

The moment will strike you, perhaps in the most unlikely & unexpected way, yet nonetheless through understanding what you are this will fractal out and you will realize just how epicly grand this all is. And that will provide your unending inspiration and drive.


 No.12301

>>12298

this was actually very insightful, thank you


 No.12307

Does changing your name, not the legal name as in a government procedure, but changing the name by which you address yourself and have others address you create spiritual/astral change? How much does a name define you.


 No.12308

>>12307

I think names are like memes created by society.

Some do have characteristics ascribed to them that can backfire on you but some are just shit meme that no one cares about.

This is all prejudice dynamics though and closer friends won't have the necessary prejudice to meme an effect into reality. That's why I prefer when distant acquaintances don't know my name or simply forget it.


 No.12310

>>12307

>referring to yourself by your name

>not realizing your true "I"

Here's a question, if your parents called you anything different, would you be a different entity? The name my parents gave me apparently signifies health in babies but I was pretty sickly all my life and a malnourished childhood made me a manlet.

Like the other anon said it's meaningless bullshit that makes no difference to who you really are.


 No.12312

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>>12310

…and I have to disagree. I find that I feel better when I'm around people and I use a fake name. There is no denying that your name links you to your past — you have a history of being your name. If I use a new name, I feel like a new person. Like I can be whoever I want. I feel much more comfortable talking to people if I am (1) using a fake name and (2) using a language that is not my mother tongue.

So to answer >>12310 , yes if you had a different name you would be a different entity. You would be in a different position in the roll call, in lists, in office appointments. Your name definitely helps you being who you are.

To >>12307 I say, just try it. Go around for a while using a different name and see how it feels. For me, it makes me feel safer, like I am hiding who I really am. I'm not entirely fond of who I was and the things I did in the pass, so this somehow makes me forget those things happened.


 No.12313

>>12312

>if you had a different name you would be a different entity

Anon, I am will and consciousness controlling a mind that dwells in a flesh and blood body at my higher self level just like you are, whether you consider it deepest of furthest removed. Yes, I would experience the physical world a little differently if my ego persona wasn't John Doe but Dave Doe but it doesn't change who I am fundamentally, my inborn qualities and vices.

If you for example managed to erase all memory of your past persona and start off with a clean slate as an amnesiac of sorts, don't you think you'd eventually fall into the same habits of your past self? Haven't you ever observed that some people are drawn to various things despite their upbringing or life experience?

Even on a mundane level the genes your parents pass down to you determine a significant portion of who you'll most likely become. It's no surprise that a child of brilliant scientists is born a genius even if he's named Stupid as a joke and a kid born to a single mother who was a heavy drinker during pregnancy doesn't have much of a future no matter the name he gets or how affluent the family that adopted him might be.

I agree that shedding your ego temporarily is very freeing and it's nice to try on a different mask at times, taking up an entirely new mindset but if you play through the role long enough you'll likely get steered back into the same direction your original ego went. Give it a try though, it's just a theory of mine after all so I'll be excited if you prove it wrong.


 No.12314

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If a symbol represents feminine energy, but I see it more as a masculine symbol what will it attract as a sigil?


 No.12315

>>12314

You can attribute any abstract qualities to any symbols. Nothing is truly hardcoded. Your personal, conscious, views will always have more impact in your personal sphere of influence.


 No.12319

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>>12307

>How much does a name define you.

It can be a tremendous amount, especially for mundanes, sometimes ever more influential than their stars.

Think of it as the primary affirmation that most have cast upon their being (by them selves or others) hands down. So the meaning of the name/word has a lot of effect upon your being. And unless socially isolate (this includes some places on the net as well) this will be a regular and often occurance and many dozens if not 100s of counter affirmations a day would be needed just to offset. To say nothing about the lifetime of inertia from that declaration of being.

>Does changing your name, not the legal name as in a government procedure, but changing the name by which you address yourself and have others address you create spiritual/astral change?

Yes, it would create a change, how big that one is also depends on your mental relation to it. What I mean is that I've seen folk that have "their name" (what they go by) and "their real name" (legal title). In their mind, even despite going by that for years, or decades, they and their social circle will refer to their alleged whole state of being as a mere facade over "what big brother says you actually are" and they, like cucks, take it.

So the problem is they are mentally, within their own view of reality, letting some outside being choose who and what they are and in doing so are giving up freewill over themselves Some aren't quite so bad but this thing is still a rampant problem even if simply within one's circle of friends. So long as you answer to, accept and resonance with outside demands that you are a thing you will be restricted in that way. Now of course you can not associate with such things yet still, for the sake of convince you may submit as a compromise of convince, I wouldn't suggest such however some prefer the easier way rather than the straightest way.

And in a roundabout way this is another strength of anonymity.

>>12310

>The name my parents gave me apparently signifies health in babies but I was pretty sickly all my life and a malnourished childhood made me a manlet.

There are a lot of factors, that said, like all subtle influences it's effects are usually more apparent through the personality.

>>12313

>I would experience the physical world a little differently if my ego persona wasn't John Doe but Dave Doe but it doesn't change who I am fundamentally, my inborn qualities and vices.

It would effect your predispositions, the specific trail you took through the pass, not the pass itself (innate qualities), though I must disagree with the concept of innate vices. We may have vices but I do not believe they are inseparable parts of our spirit.

>Even on a mundane level the genes your parents pass down to you determine a significant portion of who you'll most likely become.

Not just genes but also their psychic imprints (subtle genes) as well.

>>12315

>Nothing is truly hardcoded.

This is misleading, though true. With enough force of will one can fight the cosmic tides of the world, fate, and the will of heaven itself if desired, force making anything anything, however it's much easier to go with the flow, cocreating. Though careful observation one can see the transitive truths about the intrinsic power emanating from a given geometry.


 No.12320

>>12297

>That's a terrible excuse. At least some beginners would at least get motivated. Also, documenting something that is undeniably magical will undeniably attract threats

Not sure what you're trying to say here, are you for or against using video documentation?

I've seen claims that a certain "illusionist" who was filmed walking through the chinese wall actually did walk through it. The trick is people are trying to understand how the illusion was performed when in reality he cheats in most of his shows by using actual supernatural abilities, it's just that no one believes it's real.


 No.12324

>>12320

Let me put it this way. If you healed someone's legs and they could walk, even though they had been a cripple since birth people would find countless reasons not to believe it. There is no proof that is enough for the faithless, no feat great enough to wake them from their eternal stupor. They are and will always be blind.


 No.12325

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>12320

>for or against using video documentation?

I'm just saying that possible criticism is not the factor that should deter one from filming.

>The trick is people are trying to understand how the illusion was performed when in reality he cheats in most of his shows by using actual supernatural abilities, it's just that no one believes it's real.

I've heard about these claims before about Chris Angel and David Blaine.


 No.12326

>>12324

Personally witnessing such feats does have an impact on ordinary people who are not die-hard skeptics.


 No.12327

>>12310

>The name my parents gave me apparently signifies health in babies but I was pretty sickly all my life and a malnourished childhood made me a manlet.

Sad to hear about your manletism.

Something I have noticed that is somewhat related is making some kind of declaration to others and then having some sort of workings happen to challenge me on that almost as if to say "oh yeah? let's see about that then".

There are some subtilties that I have yet to work out but it looks to be mostly will based.

In short, will it to happen.


 No.12328

>>12310

>>12327

Manletism has nothing to do with height, it's a state of mind. Being short doesn't make you a manlet, being a height-cuckold does.

t. 5'5" big guy


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>>12319

>We may have vices but I do not believe they are inseparable parts of our spirit.

Maybe vices was a wrong term to use but I'd say things like being prone to various addictions, whether it's drugs or masturbation, or perhaps pathological lies could be part of the spirit related problems. If you subscribe to the idea that the spirit experiences the physical in order to grow and evolve little by little it makes sense that some undesirable qualities are related to the current nature of your spirit.

>>12327

>>12328

I called myself a manlet is jest anyway, I don't get any more mad about it than I might have about having brown eyes. Plus gains are easy to acquire.

As a side note, I've actually moved to another, very different country in my adolescence, taken on a new name and started speaking a new language. I honestly tried to get absorbed into the local culture but your ego baggage is very difficult to get rid of, even if there's little of it. Habits don't just evaporate when you start referring to yourself under a different name, and when you suddenly meet people that knew you in your home country I realized that no matter what name people call me or what sort of preconceptions of me they have, it's pretty much impossible for someone like me to give birth to a brand new ego. My lives under the two names are both part of my Earthly mind and if I were for some reason move to some third country where I have to refer to myself with some different name again it won't change a thing, it'll just be a continuation for I am I. The mind/ego you incarnated on this Earth with is a real valuable gift I guess.


 No.12333

>>12332

THC not even once kids. Not even ONCE.


 No.12335

>>12332

Withdrawal symptoms intensify tbh. They'll probably pass soon but if you're worried about possession it's not a bad idea to do a couple affirmations that you're in control and erect an energy barrier. Good on you for quitting, stay strong and don't give back in.

Your dream was probably prophetic of the day of the rope when /pol/ led RWDS will remove drug abusing degenerates.


 No.12337

>>12335

>the day of the rope when /pol/ led RWDS will remove drug abusing degenerates

I'm interested how this LARP fantasy is meant to be carried out. Do you go door to door asking people if they've used drugs? How do you find out who has used drugs and who hasn't? And assuming you ARE able to find out how do you kill them when whites have the highest gun ownership percentage in America?

I'm interested in this /pol/ LARP.




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