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 No.11744[View All]

Do not start threads just to ask a question; post your questions in a pre-existing thread instead.

Previous thread >>>/ask/4642

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 No.12237

>>12236

I'm not selling my soul to a succubus or a spirit. What is mine is mine, what is supposed to be mine will be mine and what isn't mine will never be mine.

I did take some interest in succubi culture, summoning and the like. But only as general knowledge, not for actually summoning. And the only thread I have read so far is the one here on /fringe/, not the one one /loosh/.


 No.12238

>>12237

Aggressive marketing has proven successful, so why wouldn't they try it too.

>What is mine is mine, what is supposed to be mine will be mine and what isn't mine will never be mine.

Ah.. that's a pretty good statement if you want someone to misinterpret it or find loopholes.

>supposed to be mine

and

>isn't mine

can easily be used to capture someone, just saying.

>but anon, you're supposed to belong to me, you don't own yourself


 No.12239

>>12238

I know it can be misinterpreted but the important part here is: My soul right now is mine. And as it is mine it will always be mine because I decided so.

One day it might not be mine anymore. But as long as I am the one deciding then it will always be mine and nobody can interfere, simply because I will not let them.

The supposed to be mine part refers to the future. One day, something that has more power over me than I do it could decide my soul is no longer mine, but that would also mean my soul was never mine to begin with. You can put this into a loop if you like, I however am fully convinced that as long as I am what I am then nobody and nothing will get hold of my soul.

>but anon, you're supposed to belong to me, you don't own yourself

Wouldn't that show itself in the future? If that is correct then indeed, it would become that way. But only when the time is right.


 No.12246

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>>12239

> as long as I am the one deciding then it will always be mine

>something that has more power over me than I do it could decide my soul is no longer mine

>my soul was never mine to begin with

> nobody and nothing will get hold of my soul

…other than its rightful owner, whoever that is, right?

It seems to have worked pretty good, you're already stating conditions for when you would give up your soul.

This is the reason you were approached, you're an obvious candidate for capture.

It's not good or bad, it's just the way it is.


 No.12248

>>12246

>you're an obvious candidate for capture

Yes, you might be correct about that. But even then I will never give up to keep what I believe is rightfully mine. And I believe my soul belongs only to me and nobody/nothing else. Those spirits could give even fancier words and promises, they would still not get what is mine.

And even if they are stronger than me and can wrest it wrongfully away from me, if I can't have what is rightfully mine then nobody can. Before my soul, and in turn I, become someone elses posession I would rather destroy myself.

It isn't that this statement has loopholes, it is that it needs you to be utterly and completely convinced of things that are yours. For example: What do you believe is rightfully yours and nobody elses? Something that no matter what you would never be willing to give up because you are completely convinced it is yours? For me that is my entire being. My (current) body, my physical soul and my spiritual soul. That is what I mean with "What is mine is mine."

"What is supposed to be mine will be mine." refers to whatever is in the future. A good example would be my future body, after reincarnation or even knowledge that I learn in books. (In the case of knowledge you can link this to "When the student is ready, the master appears")

"What isn't mine will never be mine" refers to things that do not fall in the earlier mentioned categories. An example is your body. Your body does not show any indication of being supposed to be mine and neither is it mine right now, but yours. Thus it will never be mine.


 No.12249

>>12248

> I believe

Shows you are not fully convinced of this.

> I would rather destroy myself.

There's your main flaw. This is why you can be captured. Generally they are looking for one of 2 things

>suicidal thinking/self harm

>acceptance of male homosexuality

Both of those traits can be easily taken advantage of in the formation of a contract unfavourable for the captee.


 No.12250

>>11744

is there a way to travel into a specific parallel universe?


 No.12251

>>12249

"believe" is the word I chose. If you wish you can use the word "know" instead. What matters is not what word you use, what matters is whether you are or you are not convinced. You either are or you are not. And I am.

>suicidal thinking

That's not what I meant. I meant that I am free (To do what I want with what is mine) and it is impossible for me to be me if I am not free. That is what the destruction boils down to.

Of course you could also be correct in your sense. But is there anything else you might know about what happened this night? If they try to harm me, my posessions or wrest away from me what is mine then I will slay them. Plain and simple.


 No.12252

>>12251

>What matters is not what word you use

Dealing with demonic entities has shown me this is exactly what matters. If you made any claim at all they will twist it to mean whatever they want it to mean, and they will find ways to make you defend your words in a way that further exposes your weaknesses. If you change the meaning of what you said even slightly by using a different word the next time any incosistancy will be used to point out how you either lied the first time or the next, or that you simply do not know what you are talking about. The only way to stay safe is to examine your statements with this in mind before typing them out or expressing them, or they will have you making uncontrollable rants to the point where you're saying exactly what they want you to. A deal is a deal if you agree to it once, changing your mind later won't undo it.

> is there anything else you might know about what happened this night?

I'm interpreting it based on my previous experiences and what happened to other anons (not specific for /fringe/). I have yet to decide what will come of this, I don't really see you turning either way yet.

> If they try to harm me, my posessions or wrest away from me what is mine then I will slay them.

They will not take what is yours, they will make you agree that it actually isn't. It all happens by free will. You can't slay someone who owns souls, there is nothing to aim at. If you aim at the main entity they will change place with one of their slave souls, making you the criminal for attacking an innocent. If you strike at one of the souls first, you're still at fault. Maybe you don't care about being right or wrong - well then that's even worse. All of this is to expose your flaws and use them against you. Considering the professional approach used they probably did this successfully many times before.

Succubus and related entities are master trolls.


 No.12253

>>12250

If you have a flying saucer.


 No.12257

What's the /fringe/ interpretation of the moon or moonlight? I believe Gurdjieff says that as long as people follow their autopilot, they will "become food for the moon" or something. What do other /fringe/-related people have to say regarding the moon?


 No.12258

>>12233

Sorry that happened to you. Weston A Price tried to warn everyone of the teeth filling scam but his research got buried. For any hormone problems, try DIM or look for estrogen metabolism supplements (even women need these because of excess estrogenuous substances in the environment), and keyword: aromatase enzyme inhibitor. Get vitamin d3 and consume at least 5000IU with a saturated fat food substance like organic butter or milk. That should give you a good start but there's definitely a lot more to it than that.


 No.12261

>>12250

>is there a way to travel into a specific parallel universe?

http://montalk.net/matrix/112/realm-dynamics

>>12257

>What's the /fringe/ interpretation of the moon or moonlight?

http://montalk.net/matrix/114/food-for-the-moon


 No.12266

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>>12219

>be asshurt kike

>hate on trump ending deception and being powerless for the rest of the age

>later die in an oven


 No.12269

>>12266

>2050

>all jews have been exterminated

>/pol/ still believes there are jews because other /pol/acks continue to pretend to be kikes

Poe's Law, or Shlomo's Law?


 No.12272

>go to regular dentist checkup

>finds weird as permanent tooth growing under my normal permanent tooth

>do scan

>turns out I have 4 extra permanent teeth in my jaw

>tells me it's fucking weird and can send me to some surgeon expert to extract them by cutting my gums open

>they don't really bother me so I decline

I've managed to regrow broken bones in the past, accelerating normal healing by over two weeks but I've never tried melting tissue away. I could probably try to localize some dark destructive energy into the extra teeth (which will highly likely cause excruciating pain as they're broken down) but I'd like to hear some more wizards' thoughts on the matter.

Doesn't matter if you tried to melt your own or someone else's bones btw, please share your experiences.


 No.12274

>>12234

>I'd imagine it is easier, as you don't have as many distractions.

I can't relax really. Tension builds when I try to meditate.

>>12258

>>12258

Thanks, bro. I'll look up to that. I'm getting them changed in two weeks. With bio-compatible porcelain. Though there is some cement they use, though it still better than bisphenol-a in my mouth. Shit, 70 pg/ml estrodiol!! And then they call me paranoid schizophenic. 'everyone have them'.

>>12257

Moon - Ice, Snow, Winter, Thule.

Sun - Fire, Egypt, Summer, Atlantis.


 No.12275

>>12272

I've read about reports, mostly alchemically related, of people growing new teeth that push their old ones out. This can happen when consuming highly purified yet not quite perfected elixirs.

The reason being that the soul & flesh would be empowered to regenerate so fast that it's swifter and easier to make a new tooth than to fix the old one. I've also read accounts of similar happening with finger and toenails, and feathers for birds (so presumable hair for humans too?).


 No.12276

What /fringe/ thinks about self hypnosis? Do you have any recommendation? I want to reprogram my mind to be braver.


 No.12277

>>12276

At first I read "I want to be a beaver" and I laughed.

Ok, I think there's some threads on self hypnosis on the /div/ board, also some texts on self-dowsing in the libraries. Go check and ctrl-F relevant terms: hypnosis, dowsing, reprogram, etc.


 No.12278

>>12277

Thanks, bud.


 No.12280

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>>12275

Unless you count fresh cold pressed juice every morning and reverse osmosis water as elixirs I didn't really consume anything out of the ordinary.

Plus it's not like I've ever had any tooth problems, never had a drill even come close to my mouth, every time I go to the dentist once a year it's just for routine cleaning since all my teeth are healthy.

Shitty blurry picture taken with shaky hands so you can only see 2 of them. Also my question on melting bones/teeth still stands. Guess limb regeneration isn't all that impossible but I'd rather not test it.


 No.12281

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>>12280

>do no fap and transmute your generative energy into regenerative energy anon

>don't worry anon you'll feel refreshed and healthy

No fap, not even once.


 No.12284

>>12280

Why focus on destroying your bones/tissues when you could focus on restoring a normal or prefered state?


 No.12286

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>>12284

Because the ability to melt someone else's bones away sounds pretty exciting.


 No.12287

If magic is real why are there no videos of people walking on water?

Checkmate fringists.


 No.12288

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>>12287

Plausible deniability for preservation and maximization of universal freewill.


 No.12294

>>12288

Also, even wizards underestimate how hard it is to walk on water. Truly adept occultists are rare.. If anything, the people who could walk on water, probably wouldn't.


 No.12295

>>12287

If there were let me quote the comments on it

>nice blurry potato cam you had there

or, if crystal clear sharp

>nice CG


 No.12297

>>12287

I know that's a troll question, but still, I undertand why anyone would doubt magic if in this modern age where everything is on video there is little evidence of its existence that doesn't require personal experience.

>>12288

valid answer

>>12294

Are they rare or are they nonexistant? Where are they and why aren't they teaching the willing? This is truly frustrating. All these low-level magicians but no true adepts? Just why? Where is Hogwarts? Where is the path of the occult that upon witnessing will leave you flabbergasted and make you willing to learn it?

>>12295

That's a terrible excuse. At least some beginners would at least get motivated. Also, documenting something that is undeniably magical will undeniably attract threats.


 No.12298

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>>12294

You know I was once told by a yogi

in a dream that "the problem with people who try to walk on water is they focus on the surface, but that's not where the center is." Take it as you will, I know I'm not there yet.

>>12297

>Are they rare or are they nonexistant?

Underground mostly well figuratively, more often actually they are in the mountains, the deserts, the remote places in nature.

>Where are they and why aren't they teaching the willing?

When you find them in the physical, if you are ready (which you probably wouldn't have seen them except maybe in passing otherwise) they will teach you. You can get spiritual support anytime though and it can be just as effective. I stopped being so picky.

>This is truly frustrating. All these low-level magicians but no true adepts?

When the student is ready, the master will appear. And at and for the appropriate level, no need to have a grand master tutor an acolyte, an initiate will due just as well.

>Just why?

They are called mystery schools for a reason. It's an inherent higher calling, away from the baser trials of existence, something for the few. This is not intentional obfuscation however given the abject rejection of the masses it's just the result, when the majority desire to make a reality they will fill it as they please, perhaps much to the chagrin of one living immersed in normalfag culture.

It's all there, it's also just so subtle we mistake it or even misperceive.

>Where is Hogwarts?

You're posting there.

>Where is the path of the occult that upon witnessing will leave you flabbergasted and make you willing to learn it?

That comes when you've experienced the irrefutable proof of the power that lies in in stillness, in silence, in the universal breath. These words seem but poetic fancy and I'm afraid that's all I can offer you. I can't do it for you. All I can say is

>A great teacher never strives to explain her vision; she simply invites you to stand beside her and see it for yourself.

And >>>/fringe/3 Do them. The visualization based ones if you're good, else wise start with basic awareness focusing and then manipulation.

The moment will strike you, perhaps in the most unlikely & unexpected way, yet nonetheless through understanding what you are this will fractal out and you will realize just how epicly grand this all is. And that will provide your unending inspiration and drive.


 No.12301

>>12298

this was actually very insightful, thank you


 No.12307

Does changing your name, not the legal name as in a government procedure, but changing the name by which you address yourself and have others address you create spiritual/astral change? How much does a name define you.


 No.12308

>>12307

I think names are like memes created by society.

Some do have characteristics ascribed to them that can backfire on you but some are just shit meme that no one cares about.

This is all prejudice dynamics though and closer friends won't have the necessary prejudice to meme an effect into reality. That's why I prefer when distant acquaintances don't know my name or simply forget it.


 No.12310

>>12307

>referring to yourself by your name

>not realizing your true "I"

Here's a question, if your parents called you anything different, would you be a different entity? The name my parents gave me apparently signifies health in babies but I was pretty sickly all my life and a malnourished childhood made me a manlet.

Like the other anon said it's meaningless bullshit that makes no difference to who you really are.


 No.12312

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>>12310

…and I have to disagree. I find that I feel better when I'm around people and I use a fake name. There is no denying that your name links you to your past — you have a history of being your name. If I use a new name, I feel like a new person. Like I can be whoever I want. I feel much more comfortable talking to people if I am (1) using a fake name and (2) using a language that is not my mother tongue.

So to answer >>12310 , yes if you had a different name you would be a different entity. You would be in a different position in the roll call, in lists, in office appointments. Your name definitely helps you being who you are.

To >>12307 I say, just try it. Go around for a while using a different name and see how it feels. For me, it makes me feel safer, like I am hiding who I really am. I'm not entirely fond of who I was and the things I did in the pass, so this somehow makes me forget those things happened.


 No.12313

>>12312

>if you had a different name you would be a different entity

Anon, I am will and consciousness controlling a mind that dwells in a flesh and blood body at my higher self level just like you are, whether you consider it deepest of furthest removed. Yes, I would experience the physical world a little differently if my ego persona wasn't John Doe but Dave Doe but it doesn't change who I am fundamentally, my inborn qualities and vices.

If you for example managed to erase all memory of your past persona and start off with a clean slate as an amnesiac of sorts, don't you think you'd eventually fall into the same habits of your past self? Haven't you ever observed that some people are drawn to various things despite their upbringing or life experience?

Even on a mundane level the genes your parents pass down to you determine a significant portion of who you'll most likely become. It's no surprise that a child of brilliant scientists is born a genius even if he's named Stupid as a joke and a kid born to a single mother who was a heavy drinker during pregnancy doesn't have much of a future no matter the name he gets or how affluent the family that adopted him might be.

I agree that shedding your ego temporarily is very freeing and it's nice to try on a different mask at times, taking up an entirely new mindset but if you play through the role long enough you'll likely get steered back into the same direction your original ego went. Give it a try though, it's just a theory of mine after all so I'll be excited if you prove it wrong.


 No.12314

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If a symbol represents feminine energy, but I see it more as a masculine symbol what will it attract as a sigil?


 No.12315

>>12314

You can attribute any abstract qualities to any symbols. Nothing is truly hardcoded. Your personal, conscious, views will always have more impact in your personal sphere of influence.


 No.12319

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>>12307

>How much does a name define you.

It can be a tremendous amount, especially for mundanes, sometimes ever more influential than their stars.

Think of it as the primary affirmation that most have cast upon their being (by them selves or others) hands down. So the meaning of the name/word has a lot of effect upon your being. And unless socially isolate (this includes some places on the net as well) this will be a regular and often occurance and many dozens if not 100s of counter affirmations a day would be needed just to offset. To say nothing about the lifetime of inertia from that declaration of being.

>Does changing your name, not the legal name as in a government procedure, but changing the name by which you address yourself and have others address you create spiritual/astral change?

Yes, it would create a change, how big that one is also depends on your mental relation to it. What I mean is that I've seen folk that have "their name" (what they go by) and "their real name" (legal title). In their mind, even despite going by that for years, or decades, they and their social circle will refer to their alleged whole state of being as a mere facade over "what big brother says you actually are" and they, like cucks, take it.

So the problem is they are mentally, within their own view of reality, letting some outside being choose who and what they are and in doing so are giving up freewill over themselves Some aren't quite so bad but this thing is still a rampant problem even if simply within one's circle of friends. So long as you answer to, accept and resonance with outside demands that you are a thing you will be restricted in that way. Now of course you can not associate with such things yet still, for the sake of convince you may submit as a compromise of convince, I wouldn't suggest such however some prefer the easier way rather than the straightest way.

And in a roundabout way this is another strength of anonymity.

>>12310

>The name my parents gave me apparently signifies health in babies but I was pretty sickly all my life and a malnourished childhood made me a manlet.

There are a lot of factors, that said, like all subtle influences it's effects are usually more apparent through the personality.

>>12313

>I would experience the physical world a little differently if my ego persona wasn't John Doe but Dave Doe but it doesn't change who I am fundamentally, my inborn qualities and vices.

It would effect your predispositions, the specific trail you took through the pass, not the pass itself (innate qualities), though I must disagree with the concept of innate vices. We may have vices but I do not believe they are inseparable parts of our spirit.

>Even on a mundane level the genes your parents pass down to you determine a significant portion of who you'll most likely become.

Not just genes but also their psychic imprints (subtle genes) as well.

>>12315

>Nothing is truly hardcoded.

This is misleading, though true. With enough force of will one can fight the cosmic tides of the world, fate, and the will of heaven itself if desired, force making anything anything, however it's much easier to go with the flow, cocreating. Though careful observation one can see the transitive truths about the intrinsic power emanating from a given geometry.


 No.12320

>>12297

>That's a terrible excuse. At least some beginners would at least get motivated. Also, documenting something that is undeniably magical will undeniably attract threats

Not sure what you're trying to say here, are you for or against using video documentation?

I've seen claims that a certain "illusionist" who was filmed walking through the chinese wall actually did walk through it. The trick is people are trying to understand how the illusion was performed when in reality he cheats in most of his shows by using actual supernatural abilities, it's just that no one believes it's real.


 No.12324

>>12320

Let me put it this way. If you healed someone's legs and they could walk, even though they had been a cripple since birth people would find countless reasons not to believe it. There is no proof that is enough for the faithless, no feat great enough to wake them from their eternal stupor. They are and will always be blind.


 No.12325

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>>12320

>for or against using video documentation?

I'm just saying that possible criticism is not the factor that should deter one from filming.

>The trick is people are trying to understand how the illusion was performed when in reality he cheats in most of his shows by using actual supernatural abilities, it's just that no one believes it's real.

I've heard about these claims before about Chris Angel and David Blaine.


 No.12326

>>12324

Personally witnessing such feats does have an impact on ordinary people who are not die-hard skeptics.


 No.12327

>>12310

>The name my parents gave me apparently signifies health in babies but I was pretty sickly all my life and a malnourished childhood made me a manlet.

Sad to hear about your manletism.

Something I have noticed that is somewhat related is making some kind of declaration to others and then having some sort of workings happen to challenge me on that almost as if to say "oh yeah? let's see about that then".

There are some subtilties that I have yet to work out but it looks to be mostly will based.

In short, will it to happen.


 No.12328

>>12310

>>12327

Manletism has nothing to do with height, it's a state of mind. Being short doesn't make you a manlet, being a height-cuckold does.

t. 5'5" big guy


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>>12319

>We may have vices but I do not believe they are inseparable parts of our spirit.

Maybe vices was a wrong term to use but I'd say things like being prone to various addictions, whether it's drugs or masturbation, or perhaps pathological lies could be part of the spirit related problems. If you subscribe to the idea that the spirit experiences the physical in order to grow and evolve little by little it makes sense that some undesirable qualities are related to the current nature of your spirit.

>>12327

>>12328

I called myself a manlet is jest anyway, I don't get any more mad about it than I might have about having brown eyes. Plus gains are easy to acquire.

As a side note, I've actually moved to another, very different country in my adolescence, taken on a new name and started speaking a new language. I honestly tried to get absorbed into the local culture but your ego baggage is very difficult to get rid of, even if there's little of it. Habits don't just evaporate when you start referring to yourself under a different name, and when you suddenly meet people that knew you in your home country I realized that no matter what name people call me or what sort of preconceptions of me they have, it's pretty much impossible for someone like me to give birth to a brand new ego. My lives under the two names are both part of my Earthly mind and if I were for some reason move to some third country where I have to refer to myself with some different name again it won't change a thing, it'll just be a continuation for I am I. The mind/ego you incarnated on this Earth with is a real valuable gift I guess.


 No.12333

>>12332

THC not even once kids. Not even ONCE.


 No.12335

>>12332

Withdrawal symptoms intensify tbh. They'll probably pass soon but if you're worried about possession it's not a bad idea to do a couple affirmations that you're in control and erect an energy barrier. Good on you for quitting, stay strong and don't give back in.

Your dream was probably prophetic of the day of the rope when /pol/ led RWDS will remove drug abusing degenerates.


 No.12337

>>12335

>the day of the rope when /pol/ led RWDS will remove drug abusing degenerates

I'm interested how this LARP fantasy is meant to be carried out. Do you go door to door asking people if they've used drugs? How do you find out who has used drugs and who hasn't? And assuming you ARE able to find out how do you kill them when whites have the highest gun ownership percentage in America?

I'm interested in this /pol/ LARP.




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