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Do not start threads just to ask a question; post your questions in a pre-existing thread instead.

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Actually, to avoid asking mundane questions that only I can really answer:

How can I ask my higher self about what would be best for me? I feel like I've lost sight of what my "end goal" of my magick work was, and I could use help re-aligning my mundane path as well. Is there any specific way to meditate that would help?

I have meditated on many questions I am troubled with and still not found an answer, even for months.

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/fringe/ Youtube Channels:

1. http://www.youtube.com/user/TomMontalk

2. http://www.youtube.com/user/avatarenergymastery

3. http://www.youtube.com/user/HybridLibrarian

4. http://www.youtube.com/user/EsotericAudiobooks

5. http://www.youtube.com/user/MasonicBooks

6. http://www.youtube.com/user/AudioEnlightenment

7. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCO4iVC3ANt3xXQ2cjQFqcXw/videos

/fringe/ Youtube Playlists:

1. Michael Talbot - Rare Holographic Universe Lecture 1/12

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL4M--cHh5qOg71_-UDzsdtw0vU1lV-T5q (a very important greenpill about the holographic mental universe, disproves materialism)

2. Consciousness The Ultimate Reality by Tom Campbell 1/13

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLF4513ADF171E3995 (quantum mechanical proof of consciousness as the foundation of reality)

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Maudlen of the Well is as /fringe/ as it gets. I'll just post a little excerpt from the Wikipedia page.

maudlin's music, lyrics, and atmosphere dealt predominantly with the subject of astral projection. The band described their approach as trying to find music rather than compose it. This was done through practicing astral projection and lucid dreams, from which they were purportedly able to "bring back" pre-existing music from the astral plane (as stated by Toby Driver in the liner notes included with the reissued Bath and Leaving Your Body Map).


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Quite some good music here.

Actually enjoy your picks, OP… until the vocals and drums stepped in.

Personally the kind of music I find more useful are monotonous repetitive tones occasionally accompanied by abstract visuals.

I like to look at music as a tool for achieving a soft self induced meditative/hypnotic state.

Buuuuuuuut, that doesn't float most people's boats around here, isn't it? lol

If I had to leave my comfort zone and choose something more mainstream I think I'd go for something like this video.

Brings back the memories of when I first started learning moving, burning and levitating things… I never entirely liked the song due to it's abundance of degradation and general foolery accompanied by silent harmful insertions and showmanship, but it's still an attempt at making something worthy.

So, there you go… recommended.


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Some languages and cultures/styles, I can feel resonate far stronger than others; I believe it's literally the ancestry written upon my soul.

There are quite a few with Norse blood on /fringe/ so I know they appreciate them at least.

>I like to look at music as a tool for achieving a soft self induced meditative/hypnotic state.

I have that stuff too, though the power comes from me and the state of trance I am in not so much the music per se.

I do use some meditation tracks with rather repetetive sounds (singing bowls, drums, or bells usually) and occasionally mantras, though usually I prefer to do the mantras myself and not have them recorded.

>Personally the kind of music I find more useful are monotonous repetitive tones occasionally accompanied by abstract visuals.

I can't listen to that type if I'm not meditating though, it gets too boring.


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>I like to look at music as a tool for achieving a soft self induced meditative/hypnotic state.

I do too, not all the time because I enjoy various styles and genres, but when I do, I usually go for ambient/dark ambient or drone, that kind of stuff.

Vid related. I love that project.

Or harsh noise wall if I want to sweep my mind clean.

>If I had to leave my comfort zone and choose something more mainstream

Why would you have to? Personally I think that track is awful.


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Who here uses cleaning as a meditational exercise and simultaneously as they physically clean up and organize a space they purify it on the etheric and astral levels as well?

The room you are in effects your mind greatly. How you arrange everything in your room changes the energy flow and matters in other ways too.

When I go through my room, I make an effort to imagine each object in the room, and I organize everything carefully. I know exactly where everything in my room is and I have at least a hundred or more objects in here. This is a good practice to develop your higher imaginal/astral senses and your memory.

As you clean you should really feel and think about what you're doing. The touching of things, rubbing them down, etc. is you imagine it as you do it, uses and increases your capacity for storing Earth-energy (which lets you do psyhokinesis and various other things, it's the touch-energy that has to do with space and pressure and gravity and stuff). While you clean everything as well, you can force some of your energy into the surroundings and into the things you clean, and purge them.

I burn incense and I get all the dust out and I open the windows to get everything aired out on a day where the weather permits it.

It is good to have everything organized and stored away. Your room should have as little distractions as possible that you have to constantly filter out. If you've ever been in a really messy, noisy, busy place a lot where there's constant shit you have to strain yourself to block out and then spent awhile in simple surroundings in a very quiet place, you will notice you feel way less stressed and energy deprived, as less energy is wasted constantly trying to block stuff out. I for one keep a boxfan going all the time producing white noise to block out the noises of mundanes below and also keep the air well circulated in my room; under more ideal conditions I wish I could turn it off more from time to time and actually get complete silence but I can't.

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What is wrong with tantric sex?

Isn't it another name for sex magic?


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>What is wrong with tantric sex?

It doesn't exist.

>Isn't it another name for sex magic?

That's the furthest away from truth that you can be.

At this point in time, I have already explained this tens of times, both here and on 8ch/fringe/, so I'm mostly gonna copypaste my previous posts.

Tantra has nothing to do with sex. This is the most basic, surface-level, new age misconception about this system. It basically shows to anyone who actually studied Tantra even a little bit that you don't know a single thing about this system.

While it is true that most Tantrik schools (especially those belonging to Vamachara, the so called Left Hand Path) have some sexual rites, they are by no means the primary focus of Tantra, and they constitute only a minuscule part of the system and are mostly for those who already mastered their desires (or for a special class of Tantrikas - viras).

Moreover, the descriptions in some tantras regarding rites involving sexual intercourse and use of meat and alcohol are highly metaphorical.

>[…]And the Kularnava Tantra says that the divine person, or divya, realises that wine flows from the 1,000 petal lotus, flesh is the sense of duality, fish is the disordering of the senses and sexual intercourse is the union of Kundalini with supreme Shiva. Indeed, the commentary to the famous Karpuradistotra goes further and says that true sexual intercourse is union with the goddess within. Intercourse with any other woman is adultery.

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Basically Tantra is an ancient magical and spiritual system, concerned with achieving liberation (or siddhis, or both).

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Thank you for the info, I appreciate the enlightenment.

One more question, why do you post with the indigo pill flag? Looking at the pill thread, the indigo pill doesn't seem to be the type that would help people.



>the indigo pill doesn't seem to be the type that would help people

What does it matter? It's just another label.

Indigo pill is an archetype, and although I feel I fit in quite well, there are many areas of myself that are not conforming to it.

Also, I like the color.

I help because I can and because writing posts doesn't require much effort. Most of the time I just want to present some information.

Or maybe I'm just feeding my ego :^)

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Hello, /fringe/!

My group and I are working on a time and space device, and we require assistance. We've got some concept schematics done, but our next step is to create finalized schematics and to build the device.

If you have any electronics, computer science, or any other experience that may benefit this project, feel free to join the skype group.

Skype group link: https://join.skype.com/PTfCMST4v5Jm


Hyper Dimensional Resonator



There are multiple reasons why we aren't using an HDR.

Our device is built on different principles. Physical travel is the main goal.



Supposedly, with an HDR you can physically travel provided you find a vortex.



This device is actually meant to open up a vortex.

I'd say more, but I'm not allowed to share schematics or plans because I am only representing this group.




I don't think skype is the best platform to communicating on if it is 'top secret'.

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Do you want a fringe fortress? A bastion of magic and consciousness where you can learn and become self-realized away from all the mundanity of the world? Then we invite you to join us in manifesting it.

There are several of us already dedicated to this project, but all true seekers are welcomed.

We're already building a digital wizard academy, lets bring it into the physical as well, let's make something glorious.

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I was told by a psychic that that would be too much of an adventure for me right now, though I'd love to do that.


I'm a hermit and an untrustworthy person (because I don't trust anyone) no thanks.



just build the mental plane first start with images. i have some with better detail maybe?



So, if you want this to happen on the west coast, I am the one to talk to. Land, foremen, security, and production for materials is allready in my hand.

Tell me the real details and I will listen.



I am most certainly interested in communication about such. Here is my Tox: BCE9BCB5CB9F3BC9D878F6EF1D65B0291922D9385796AF4A355A91E9CDE71E75CBD30639F1DC

Else wise you can attempt to catch me/us on IRC.

I look forward to discussions regarding this.

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Hey /fringe/.

Been a while. Stopped visiting doublechan's page when Smiles stopped giving a fuck about cleaning the place.

I GUESS this will serve as a general repository for incoming updates in Temple of Solomon, given it's the first link at the top of the library sticky. I'm posting today in particular as now, along with the Yorke microfilms, I've got scans of the Sloane MSS. Anywho:



Pritchard's “Witchcraft, Oracles, and Magic amdong the Azande”

Ritual Year no. 10 (This appears to be an academic journal that chronicles material on…ritual years. I include this in the Cultus Sabbati folder as well given how in-depth this gets with draconian myth and the staggering amount of cultures it covers)


Babylonian Sacred Words of Power: Mystic Gateway to a Life Abundant


Dee's Five Books of Mystery


Superstition and Magic in Early Modern Europe

The Anglo-Saxon Charms

Ancient Cures, Charms, and Usages of Ireland

(All of these are also in the Cultus Sabbati folder)


The Rules, Statues, and Customs of the Hospitaliers (aka The Knights of Malta, sworn enemies of the 32nd degree Scottish Rite): 1099-1310 ((Warning: .djvu file, I didn't convert it because this update's been a pain in my ass anyway.


Sabbatai Shevi, The Mystical Messiah by Scholem

>LHP (?)

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I've been hunting for The Art of Dreaming by Carlos Castenada. Anyone know where I can find it? I searched high and low through this repository but couldn't find it.

Thanks to OP for putting all this together, you are a true friend to us.


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You should be moved to /loosh/ :^)




The Ape of Thoth gives you a wonderful library, but you prefer to bitch about whether it should be on this board or not.


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Sun shine upon you friend! Thank you very much.


Hey Ape, figured it was only a matter of time before you showed up here.

Google ate halfchan so I haven't been able to post in /omg/, and 8fringe is a mess.

I've been waiting to ask you about your solstice, anything you'd be willing to share?

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"It is a mistake to consider any belief more liberated than another. It is the possibility of change which is important. Every new form of liberation is destined to eventually become another form of enslavement for most of its adherents. There is no freedom from duality on this plane of existence, but one may at least aspire to choice of duality."

-Peter J. Carroll, Liber Null and Psychonaut

"Chaosophy" is a meta-belief that all beliefs are tools for power. "Nothing is true, everything is permited" means that all possible interpretations of reality(religions, magick systems,etc.) are valid and every way of manipulating reality works as long as you belive in it.

Chaos magick primary teachings are probably familiar to most magicians. The basics of practical works are

Warning: It's very easy to get crazy with this, so do yourself a favor and don't take it too seriously

You can ask me any question on this thread. (I might take some time to answer)

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Right here. Enjoy.


Why use a belief known to be false, a lie that is, when you could simply be free from assumptions and expectations, working as one with the current?

Is convenience worth the loss of progress and truth? :/



but i want 2 be sex wizard. i'm hacking the matrix bro!



No dude… You're hacking YOUR code.



Thank you Anon !!

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Have anyone heard of, or experienced, the existence of libraries in the astral plane?

Supposedly these places were created in prehistory, and can be accessed by people with the right mindset and training. The intent of making these, was to preserve knowledge and magic manuals for future generations.

Just walking in wouldn't be possible, as they are very high security places, often requiring certain achievements or the solving of riddles for a section to open up.

It is a definite necessity to have certain skills, these places are completely inaccessable to mundanes.

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sounds like a bunch of bs




>I don't really care, maybe it will help someone.




>evil economy

>They're the evil after all so this is no problem.

>harmful economy

Regardless of everything else that you wrote (it sounds like role-playing, but I'm not here to judge) do you really think that destroying any economy would be a smart and "good" thing to do?

I agree that the current world's state is largely due to corporate capitalism and its desire to consume all resources and making crazy moneys and I'd like to see this system torn down too, but do you think that ordinary people wouldn't be hurt in an economic crisis? Just look at the history of such cases.

The people on top - they will find a way to survive, they loose several billions then sure they won't be too happy, but the people on bottom have it much much worse. People having their life savings swept away, losing their jobs, not having money for food or a place to live - this is the "collateral damage" anyone who dreams about destroying the evil economy must take into account. Unless you don't care of course, the planet has too many occupants as it is after all.

So, who do you think you are helping apart from yourself?



and maybe it will harm someone

we mustn't speak on things unless we are sure we speak truth



A truth.

There are many different truths in the same situation. As long as it doesn't harm an innocent person, that is enough.


> this is the "collateral damage" anyone who dreams about destroying the evil economy must take into account. Unless you don't care of course, the planet has too many occupants as it is after all.


>So, who do you think you are helping apart from yourself?

When a bubble is created, it will create a crash sooner or later. If later, more people will have invested in it and the losses will be greater. It's better to crash it as fast as possible.

As for the people who made themselves dependent on an economy that only does harm, how are they not harmful in themselves?

A simple example, tabloids write a lot of crap that destroy morality and culture. To produce these papers, trees are cut down, trucks are used to transport them, paper is made etc, they are wasting gas, electricity, food, living somewhere, only to produce this. There's a whole line of people all producing this trash. The end result is damage to the environment as well as human culture.

Sure it's an economy that gives people jobs, housing and food, but they are still leeches. To be blunt it would be better to just give them money for nothing and let them stay home.

No trees are cut down, no bad news spread, no gas wasted in logistics, no wear on the roads. But how do you achieve that? I'm not a socialist so I can't say "redistribute wealth" or "social welfare".

Either way, if this kind of economy was to crash, it would still lead to people staying home and doing less harm. The farmers producing the food these peopPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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Since I could not find any other thread like this, I decided to create one. In this thread, you can share all your weird dreams with everyone. Some other member might be able to tell you more about the dream. For example, why your dream had a theme of dragons or something similar. Please feel free to share your dreams, no matter how short/long or weird they are!

I will share my dream below that is pretty long. I have never had a dream that long, it is is so full of imagery. If someone could help me understand it, that would be great. For some background information on it, I have had a lot of psychic and paranormal experiences like seeing orbs or apparitions, hearing my name, and a bunch of other stuff after using tarot cards.

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To me this sounds like experiences during AP exit. I also hear a lot of noise, but for me it's more like feeling high pressure in ears along with hearing high-pitched screech. I feel extremely powerful energy in my whole body too.

It's so extreme a few first times I aborted the exit because I was scared :^)

Maybe try next time some exit technique, like pulling yourself up on a rope.


A dream from today: I walk into a dungeon with few men, inside there are people in knight armors they have no swords or other means of defence, clothes red and yellow. I wield an imagined, invisible machine gun, the rest of the squad has normal weapons looking similar to MG 42, we proceed to extreminate knights in this underground complex, it is quite bright and moss grows on walls and floor. I shoot from my fingers I keep close to my side. All knights are now dead, we go to the last room we have not examined, it is a small library with old tomes, and a woman is sitting behind the desk, probably she maintains the library. She asks me why have I done this, killed all those knights with those guys, I realize what I have done, now stunned by truth.

This one got me thinking



>Maybe try next time some exit technique, like pulling yourself up on a rope.

I did, but ended up fighting an uphill battle with sleep paralysis. Any idea as to why I was possibly experiencing an AP exit when I was trying to WILD?


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LD and AP aren't totally different phenomena. I am lead to believe that the only difference between them is that in LD you interact with a small astral playground of your own making, while in AP you go "out there".

As to why it happened - I don't know, but there is an overlap - both AP and LD require you to remain awake while your physical body goes to sleep. You can certainly use slightly modified WILD to achieve AP, but I didn't completely worked out the mechanics of it all just yet.



I was working at my current job. It's a restaurant downtown. Nice looking place. Red wad celling with a mural painted along the wells wishin the building. there is a fountain on the mural. Anyway i am going about my usual routine of bussing tables and as approach a woman she is cutting through her fingers with a steak knife. she's talking but i can't hear what she is saying. I wake up.

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Basically I´m calling to everyone to share and discuss the properties of the different tools a wizard might need for the various purposes the art pursuits.

>Crystals and stones

>Cards and icons

>Altars and sanctuaries

>Drawing implements and wands

>Charms and trinkets

I believe the topic is broad enough for its own thread, and I'd like to discuss the specifics of every material, not the generalities that everyone knows (or should know).

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>the "corrosive waters" are for people who has already mastered the fire.

Could you elaborate a bit on what you mean by "fire"? And I assume corrosive waters here means forcibly-achieved altered states of mind? And which book would that little excerpt be from?



>my rapid progress after kundalini.

Halp. How do I do/awaken/stimulate/fuck my Kundalini? For some reason, I'm REALLY obsessed with that above everything. I guess it resonates with me. And yet, I am also unable to get the information I feel would be useful for some reason.




Also, sorry for double posting. I'm rather sleep deprived and forgot I'm revisiting the same thread. kek.



And what the fuck do you know? Do you even know ANYTHING about actual tools, what they are used for, or how they are made? If not, stfu and move to a topic you know about.


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Here you go, anon.

You grasped the concepts quite well there: fire is the magickal will, and corrosive waters are those substances and situations that present a risk/benefit aspect via altered state of being.

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I've noticed that a lot of threads on 8chan/fringe are somehow connected to demons, be it seeing them in sleep paralysis, a gf turning out to be one, one guy meeting a demon on the street and afterwards thinking the whole world is fucked… ugh…

So I thought to myself "fuck it, you may as well open this damn thread".

Ask me anything related to demonic topics. I know shit about other stuff too, of course, but y'know, let's keep shit on-topic. I just want to be asked and not just write down all I know that could possibly be helpfull for, like, that one person it just so happens to be helpful to because that's waaay too much fucking work.

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there's the illuminati board here for that, I imagine.

You have to find the password by psychic-ness.



What kind of psyhicness and how?


Can we humans become demons?



whats your definition of demon?


Okay i'll rephrase: Can we humans become a demon such as the op is?

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So Fringewizard got v& and sent to psych ward.


For those of you who don't know, he is the board owner of 8ch.net/fringe and he was (still is?) admin here.

This should be a reminder that no matter what system you use you must always remember: Magic is to bring desired change trough will. At its core, magic is power. Power over yourself, power over others, power over your environment. At its most simple, magic is about living the life you want. Don't make the mistakes fringewizard made.

ITT: Post your stories of strength and mastering will. Post the ways you keep yourself away from slipping to lunacy. Chaos magicians specially, since chaos magic is riding the edge between craziness and enlightenment.

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how did smiley get so crazy.



He always was. Now he just reaps what he has sown.



He's leaving image boards for good. He is going to study computers. He is a happy renewed man.

I don't know. It feels like an addict swearing he is healthy now.




Beautiful trips of truth.

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/fringe/ Condensed & Concise

Tired of all the endless wordy books that take 100 pages to get to the point? Well then this thread is just what you're looking for.

This is my ponderings and conclusions about various spiritual, & (meta)physical aspects of reality & consciousness. I don't often write because often some one else has already written some good on the subject and I'd rather link that, however from time to time I become learned enough of a subject where the subject materiel either does not seem to exist or at least is not commonly known or is just excessively long. I like my information in concise form, straight to the heart of the issue, the mechanics of how and why.

Who am I? Truth seeker, scientist, engineer, scholar, philosopher, healer, mystic, & wizard. One who is piecing together a more complete view of reality, the universe, and how it works on every level.

How did this paradigm form? My search started from/with the common thread of truth I found that runs through all religions, belief systems, & philosophies. While, I know this is not exactly a precise description of what I believe, but it is certainly an accurate description of where the path is to be found.

What is this? My spiritual/philosophical beliefs are a mix of: My own personal findings and data points of tested, experienced, and occasionally logically extrapolated into truth, Quantum Physics, Shamanism, Syncretism, Animism, (Pan)psychism, Astrology, Hermeticism, Gnosticism, Paganism, Christianity, Buddhism, Hinduism, Taoism, Pantheism, Polyatheism, Deism, Transcendentalism, New Age, and furthermore a number of more "scientific" systems including Morphic Resonance, Aether Theory/Theory of Dynamic Gravity, Zero Point/Unified Field Theory, Vortex Mathematics, (Sacred) Geometry, Cymatics and probably many other things I don't even have names for.

Know this, beyond all else, seek and ye shall find, and remember to be persistent in your search.

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>mfw fringechan is someone's first chan experience

that just seems too strange



before long fringe will be popular with the mundanes.

Hopefully it doesn't become spellsofmagic tier one day


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This trash site is the cancer of all magic-related web searches.


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I would just like to add that some people claim to be an sts or sto but man is both anon. you will switch depending on your environment.



Also, the division between them isn't very clear.

Many times helping others is beneficial to self in the long run.

They are just polarities. It is obvious that one can be both.

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Have you reached this state?

>The things you wanted to do for a long time are now skills learned, and you don't even think about it anymore

>The goals you had and wanted to reach with the help of these skills are now fulfilled

Pushing towards something and suddenly there is no resistance. You end up in what feels like a huge open lot, with nothing particular to overcome and nothing you really want to do.

>looking at the different paths I know what I choose to do and what I choose to ignore

>what I did may seem narrow and I don't know a lot of anything else, but it suits my needs perfectly and I have no reason to learn other things

What's the way forward here?

Is there a way forward? Is there even a way?

Or is it necessary to give up this thinking completely to reach some form of new realization?

I'm really clueless here.


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>What's the way forward here?

Simply maintaining balance.

Your current state won't remain forever and the training you have done and the training you will continue to do until that time will serve you well in dealing with whatever.

Think of like a monk in temple who has achieved enlightenment, his ultimate goal and his original reason for joining the temple. What does he do now? He just keeps doing his temple chores and meditations until he dies or he leaves the temple and does something else.


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>Is there even a way?



here are the ways forward.

also tips: don't be scared of left or right

what was once left can still be right. or right left.

it is always what it is

we are the same

we are one

the pillars man

is one.



okay can't post my images for some reason. anon just look jachin and boaz. those pillars put em in your head and they help you think.

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