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Do not start threads just to ask a question; post your questions in a pre-existing thread instead.

Previous thread >>>/ask/2406

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Thank you.

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/fringe/ Youtube Channels:

1. http://www.youtube.com/user/TomMontalk

2. http://www.youtube.com/user/avatarenergymastery

3. http://www.youtube.com/user/HybridLibrarian

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/fringe/ Youtube Playlists:

1. Michael Talbot - Rare Holographic Universe Lecture 1/12

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL4M--cHh5qOg71_-UDzsdtw0vU1lV-T5q (a very important greenpill about the holographic mental universe, disproves materialism)

2. Consciousness The Ultimate Reality by Tom Campbell 1/13

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Energy work, Qi-gong, Chakras and Taoism

What is this thread about and what will I find here?

This is a basic level(for the fringe neophyte and initiate alike) summarisation tutorial of your own energetic anatomy and how to start practical work to use, develop, learn and connect with it all. We'll be going through the entire chakra system, the three tan tiens, your bodies organs, aura field, yin and yang chi or energy, energy healing, energy and health, diet and food, water, air and nature and how it relates to chi and all the way into kundalini rising for those daring and dedicated enough. I will provide a list of practical exercises for each of these categories on how you can actually start using, interacting, controlling and manipulating them. The student of any school be it Western ceremonial, yoga, or some other major category will all be able to benefit from and integrate any of this into their work.

All the work found in here is based on my own practical experience of what I have collected and found to work the best. You are free to take or leave these exercises if you feel your own work better or you already are comfortable with one.

[Admin note: importing for posterity, courtesy of Khan]

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Yea just do whatever you want. The point is to do it at least once so you can be confident when you find yourself fighting later if ever.

It doesn't matter at all what you do just that you are confident



It's probably the most fun prepwork you can have. Fun and practical. Ever played outside as a kid, imagining all the cool fighting abilities you used on imaginary enemies? Ever tried doing the kamehameha hoping you could actually unleash that blue beam of light? Well, maybe you don't have to go that far but you get the point. The astral is a doggy-dog world and you need a means of defending yourself that is filled with your intent and absolute confidence.

Do you need to rely on weapons? Maybe your bare hands is all you need. Maybe you don't have time for that and can simplify it down to an abstract thought that's filled with your intent. No matter what you go with you have to have the upmost confidence that when an astral critter (or worse) shows up to steal your loosh, you can fuck their shit up.

If you have never felt murderous intent, you will - it can save your loosh and put the fear in some strange beings that picked the wrong astral traveler to bother. Maybe ow the edge isn't fit for you. I suppose you can love something even while you're killing it (or thwarting it so it leaves). As creepy as that sounds, that may be the spiritually healthier option in the long run. Once you've tasted battle, you may develop a certain kind of bloodlust. That's kind of where I'm at but at least I'm aware of it. Regardless, intent is just so important that it cannot be emphasized enough and once you've been confronted in the astral and you triumph, you will have greater resolve knowing you've been tested and you're stronger than you believed in. Believe in your own strength. At this point I believe that triumphing in the astral serves as a rite of passage. Just don't go looking for a fight. Believe me, the fight will come to you.

Sidenote: I wouldn't recommend trying to actually do a kamehameha. It's a waste of energy. I tried it during a spontaneous lucid dreaming event when I was ten, woke up, and felt like I almost died. I was stuck in bed for an hour shivering and covered in sweat and had almost no energy even afterwards. All I kept thinking from then on was, "Wait, that was real?"


"Jing-Chi-Shen Utilization"

This concept is our traditional trio painted in Chinese philosophy. Simply meaning the physical body, flow of present awareness and our mind. They're all resources but in a simpler form than you may think. When you eat too much you may find it difficult to move your body or when you ejaculate you may notice the weakness of your legs and hips. This is loss of jing(posture). In order to build jing we put awareness on the body. This accumulated resource is spent through daily life activities as you see fit. Remember that without expending, we cannot rebuild and you will stagnate. But too much expenditure creatures debt. You cannot horde it like a banker.

I find posture is best strengthened through standing meditations like wu-ji, ma-bu or tree stance. I recommend it as a daily practice in place of meditation(two for one). After this, exercise is a great method since you're able to build all three in more complex and complete forms like martial arts. An example or utilization in martial arts is a punch. Your base jing is how strong the tendons, bones, muscles and such are. The chi in this example is your breathwork and tension/relaxation. The shen is the idea or intention, the visualization you put in it. Generally you'll exhale and tense on impact to maximise damage while keeping a proper, stable stance. Your shen or intention could be for practice, to harm, to protect another, to kill and it could even be for a flashy move through adding visual effects.

Staying conscious of these three factors is crucial in life and will come with practice. You may also come to notice others(Even their intention and inner visuals). These relate to the dans so focusing in on your hip, naval and leg and perineum region allows for understanding of power, stability and rooting. Focusing around the thoracic cavity and arms allows control of the breath and flow of movement. Awareness over your head allows you to notice the imagination, voice and intention. That one's handy for stopping pesky thoughts, visualizations or other psychic attacks and leaks.

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Does anyone have a thread up on 8ch fringe? I need to borrow it to post this cause all mine are currently down by the looks of it.



Oh snap. Khan! Good to see you back round these parts.

I think you could just hijack the Magick 101 thread on 8ch. Alternatively just make a new energy work thread. The board got wiped at one point so all of your good stuff went with it. Bleeding shame to see it all go like that.

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Who here uses cleaning as a meditational exercise and simultaneously as they physically clean up and organize a space they purify it on the etheric and astral levels as well?

The room you are in effects your mind greatly. How you arrange everything in your room changes the energy flow and matters in other ways too.

When I go through my room, I make an effort to imagine each object in the room, and I organize everything carefully. I know exactly where everything in my room is and I have at least a hundred or more objects in here. This is a good practice to develop your higher imaginal/astral senses and your memory.

As you clean you should really feel and think about what you're doing. The touching of things, rubbing them down, etc. is you imagine it as you do it, uses and increases your capacity for storing Earth-energy (which lets you do psyhokinesis and various other things, it's the touch-energy that has to do with space and pressure and gravity and stuff). While you clean everything as well, you can force some of your energy into the surroundings and into the things you clean, and purge them.

I burn incense and I get all the dust out and I open the windows to get everything aired out on a day where the weather permits it.

It is good to have everything organized and stored away. Your room should have as little distractions as possible that you have to constantly filter out. If you've ever been in a really messy, noisy, busy place a lot where there's constant shit you have to strain yourself to block out and then spent awhile in simple surroundings in a very quiet place, you will notice you feel way less stressed and energy deprived, as less energy is wasted constantly trying to block stuff out. I for one keep a boxfan going all the time producing white noise to block out the noises of mundanes below and also keep the air well circulated in my room; under more ideal conditions I wish I could turn it off more from time to time and actually get complete silence but I can't.

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Who /minimalism/ here? Hoping to reduce my life to a single bag at some point.




Slowly reducing possessions. Books were a sticking point for a bit but they seem to go easily now.



I'm pretty deep in asceticism, was homeless for 6 months against my will and it helped me realize how useless material wealth is. Books belong in libraries, so they are freely available for everyone, owning a book shelf is just a way to show off others. I'm probably never giving up my laptop, but I already gave my smartphone away because it was too much of a distraction. Internet can be both a useful tool in the progress of enlightenment, or a destructive soul-decaying force, depending how you use it. In that regards its a lot like magick.



What kinds of things do you do with your time? I plan to follow a similar path starting sometime next summer, how can I prepare?



>Do you guys know of any good books talking about organization and how to reduce clutter?

Not exactly a cool fringe resource, but I really enjoyed "The Life-Changing Magic of Tidying Up" by Marie Kondo. I used to be a messy slob, and now my apartment is so open and "light", and I actually like all the possessions that I chose to keep. I threw out all the crap that I stored away "just in case". It's amazing how much easier it is for me to focus and concentrate when I'm surrounded by order.

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Why are occultists so bad at spreading their message? It seems that many people are uninterested in converting mundanes, and that many of those who are interested are too wedded to edginess, obscurity, ideological purity or elitism to make their ideas appealing. When I see how many mundanes are suffering because of their lack of guidance, and how many are searching for that guidance, I despair at how inaccessible esotericism makes itself.

The growth of Buddhism in the West shows how popular occult ideas could become if introduced to mundanes in a way that does not offend their materialistic sensibilities. Once introduced, further study leads them to a serious consideration of ideas which they would previously have dismissed out of hand. If a culturally foreign, highly challenging religion like Buddhism can do it, so can we.

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Your own national traditional culture. It's very weak in a lot of countries so it may be hard to even know it by now.

You can do a reverse thing, look at what is considered international values and international culture, then look at what isn't. The part that's left is your own national or regional culture.

Most culture used to be based on what kind of land you live in. How would people live here, how would they survive.

Some simple things would be like how Italy is associated with pasta and olive gardens, France is known for wine and cheese. There are usually a certain artistic line your country is known for as well.

What isn't national culture are things like multinational coorporations produce. Take coca-cola for example. Most countries had their own national drinks, but now companies like this come in and make them go out of business. That's killing the national culture.

Supporting your local producers and brands and boycotting those international one's is one important part.

What are the things you think of when you hear the name of a country, that is unique for this specific country? We need to protect those things.

This is the main reason the EU must be disbanded. It is actively working to remove the national cultures of Europe, turning it into one big land mass with its own army and no national borders or differences.

Once there are no borders it's easy to claim there are no different peoples either, and everyone should just mix together. This is how they are destroying ALL races, not just whites.



Haven't heard of Slavs being enslaved for any period of time (maybe apart from some Roman expeditions) so could you maybe elaborate?



That's because we were enslaved by our own royalty since around the 11th century, becoming more and more prevalent as time went on until the 19th when it more or less stopped. The official name was serfdom but still slavery in essence, leaving the landowner's land was punishable, couldn't marry whoever you wanted etc.

There's good reason why some call slavs the niggers of Europe.


Can't preserve culture if there's a foreign element that breeds way faster than the locals is present. Getting whites to recognize and care for their culture is half the battle, the other half is still violence.



>That's because we were enslaved by our own royalty since around the 11th century

Depends on the country (I guess?) but there were royal Slavic families and nobility was also Slavic (at least in my country so if anything this isn't something universal to all Slavs). Common people were slaves to royalty everywhere btw.


Another thread getting derailed by /pol/cuck bullshit.

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The coming weekend I will be hosting the session again but this time I open it up for public people from the website to join.

Next session:

1st of October, 8PM Brittish Summer Time

Instructions on how to join:

1. Write a post in this thread to show your interest for Saturday, Sunday or both.

If you have to cancel, just quote your own post and say that you can't make it.

2. Put an appointment in your schedule for 8PM GMT on Saturday or Sunday for 10th or 11th of September.

Make sure you check what the clock will be in your timezone from GMT. Use a tool like this: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html

3. Get Discord: https://discordapp.com/download and install it, also make sure your headphones work (microphone not that important).

1 hour to 30 minutes before we start:

4. Join IRC at: http://webchat.freenode.net/?nick=Seeker_..&channels=%23%23fringe&prompt=1 and ask for the link to the Discord.

5. Join the Discord channel and chill, alternatively chill in IRC chat while waiting.

When we start:

6. You won't be able to join late. The link to join the channel expires at exactly 8PM GMT.

7. It will last 1½ hour to 2 hour (the more people the longer it will take).

8. Session will be in progress until we are done with the main projections.

9. When session is over there's room for questions and lounging.

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Count me in, will join this saturday.



>list of discussion topics plainly visible

>asks anyways

>cant accept that things can change

>finger-pointing commenced

He made a list of topics, so he obviously knows what he's going to be discussing.



Ego silently disappeared from the agenda, so it was reasonable to ask what happened to it. My real issue here is that Mossa always responds snarkily when someone misunderstands him and never seems to consider the possibility that he's in the wrong. Even when he was proved to be in the wrong over the starting time of the first session, he ended up blaming his phone instead of apologising.

And I'm not the rosy cross guy.



The ego session commenced two weeks ago. Six people attended. It was not announced here, it was done for only those that wanted it from the IRC channel. The session will come back again, but if you're in a hurry: sit down and don't move.


Opportunity will come again.


no u


It disappeared because it was written in a post that was old. It was not ignored, it went through and people completed it. The session will come back again when there's enough people interested, but so far: 40 people have attended the AP session and six people the ego session. The ratio is what it is.

The problem with timezones is not new. My country still has DST and GMT+1 does not take DST into account. You can see this issue if you look at: GMT, BST and my own timezone GMT+1. That is why I state that you should be more than 1 hour early to the IRC chat so that we can solve these problems before they happen.

You attended the AP session two weeks ago so you know that it takes time and effort to organize this event. Ego sessions will come back and I will make plans for it in this thread.

You should consider not feeling dependent on gurus online and if a session is postponed by two weeks should not rustle your jimmies. It took me 4 hours before I sat down and wrote this post. Mostly because I didn't want to spoon feed you.


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>mfw I come back and check this thread

Whoa, ok, just wasn't sure what was going on with the upcoming AP session being and was looking forward to a discussion on ego. I wasn't in the last IRC/group. My mistake.

Lots of ill portents around right now in general. Maybe I'll sit this one out instead. That's a bummer to me, but I wish you all the best in this endeavor. I look forward to reading some notes and maybe a future session when the signs look better.

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I feel like most esoteric books are lost time, like most of them are focused on flawed belief system and theory/philosophy that is either too obvious when you are a little wise or just not concrete enough to have applicable fonctions.

In my opinion it's not a good idea to put to much trust of these writings because It seems the large majority are just interpretation of something much greater than us (in addition to the fact most people say bullshit 24/24 in accordance with the flaw of their misconceptions and emotions)so I think that the only truly valuable data are the data you gather yourself.

I mean "magic" and any psychic work is about will, awareness and imagination.

Can you work these three without external aid? Yes.

So why you bother reading all these books while in the end working, feeling and observing is most of the work?

I'm not against sharing your experiences thought.

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On the contrary, the tripcode forces me to write properly as everything I say is seen by everyone. There's plenty of people that uses anonymity to give themselves an excuse to let ego burst out in discussions, visible in this very thread.

Your browser saves a cookie these days that makes every post referenced by yourself seen by yourself as:

­>>8107 (You)

­>>8113 (You)

which pretty much counters that argument.

What I find a teaching matter about the tripcode is the amount of imagination people can conjure about me just because they can point at my posts and yell. Ad hominem was dealt swiftly every week.

But you have valid point. Don't come running and screaming later when you can't see the tripcode.

Maybe the flags are redundant too.



Can't even just remove your trip normally can you? All you have to do is leave the box described as 'Name' empty.

You always need to provide a counterargument, no matter how futile, to keep yourself feeling ontop. For someone who wants to 'help' people, tou are a terrible example of what a beginner should look to. The damage has been done, and there is nothing you can do that will gain my, and possibly other users, respect for you again. I hope you enjoy whatever power fantasies your moderator position fills, because you definitely do not deserve it.



u mad?



>I will always defend your right to freedom of speech regardless of the state of the Internet.

I appreciate that.



Honestly Mossa I don't personnaly know you and you don't seem to be a bad person as you claim to be pro freedom of speech but it seems the general message of this chan users is that you should step down a little bit before giving your lessons.

>Arrogance also exists in places where we believe it doesn't exist. Especially in ego.

>It's easy to be blind and say that you can see while tripping over level one tier traps of spirituality.

Your saying.

You were the first talking about ego in this thread and playing the wise man but yet you don't seem to live up to your own words.

Advice for the future: tripfag when it is necessary (like for example this chan meta state). Be more humble too.

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I'm in the making of some wet ormus now using lye and dead sea sea salt. Lets get some tips and tricks going and people can post their ratio recipes, chemicals and more.

Necessary disclaimer:

Chemicals are bad to ingest, inhale and touch. If you fail to take precautions when using dangerous chemicals, you aid in the statistics for natural selection. Also the doctor and nurse that will force you to vomit and have raging diarrhea will hate you for wasting their time when other patients need actual help. So do your chemical mixing outside, with clothes, mask, gloves and lab coat and take precaution in chemical rules.

Read safety instructions for each chemical.

Look up mixing of chemicals to get previous experiences from professionals and beginners.

Don't add water to sodium hydroxide. The sudden increase in temperature will cause a violent reaction leading to glass shatters everywhere.

Acids burn your tissue, alkaline compounds like lye water disintegrates tissue. Rinse with water for many minutes even after the point where it doesn't hurt.

That being said:

What is Ormus?

Ormus, often named ORME means (Orbitally Rearranged Monoatomic Element or M-state element). According to alchemists, Ormus is a mix of precious metals that turn into a powder or misty liquid, which is then edible by humans and can be applied to plants and on wounds for it's effects. There are several different Ormuses in different shape such as wet, dry, white, red which are the result of different alchemical processses one may use. It can be extracted from any living thing, but most common is salts, urine and some plants but also direct extraction from gold and silver.

When tested, M-state powder or liquid have contained:

Cobalt, Nickel, Copper, Ruthenium, Rhodium, Palladium, Silver, Osmium, Iridium, Platinum, Gold and or Mercury.

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When I forget about it I don't hear it. But when I sit down I hear it. It's gotten less intense over a couple of weeks.



>But taking LSD, DMT or shrooms is so much more natural or better?

They are definitely much less toxic than the heavy metals you mentioned in the OP.


This, I am very interested.


>When I was at a road deciding what I wanted to do, I had to stand there for a good 4 minutes

>I don't feel that I need to eat food like I used to. The desires for food has somewhat diminished.

>The LED screens are somewhat more irritating than before.

These honestly sound like they might be caused by poisoning.

Any updates?



>Any updates?

Only bad trolling and projection attempts.



So you feel about the same as when you made this post >>5086 ? How about that ear ringing? Are you on the same dosage?



Ear ringing has declined, alternatively: I've gotten used to it. I believe it's the former.

I took a long break from ormus as it took too much time for me to make. Last week I made a batch that has been standing as salt water in the sun for a month. The ormus was so tiny it reminded me of dandruff.

I also had to consider the idea that ormus is indeed a shortcut to spirituality. Whether or not it's worth the shortcut or if the concept of shortcuts is null.

I have a bottle of more than one cup of ormus mixed with two cups of water in a bottle. I will drink it when I am ready for the shift.

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October 8th, 2016 ( 8, 16 = 8+8)

We will have a mass day of public sacrifice for Kek in his Avatar of Pepe, bringer of happenings and lols.

This is part of an experiment pioneered by Aleister Crowley in his Paris Working (Scene of multiple terrorist attacks) wherein he theorized that offering sacrifice empowers beings to perform work on the physical world.

This ritual is simple:


1. Photo or (even better) a drawing of Pepe

2. Freshly prepared tendies.

Cooking them yourself is always the best but buying them from a fast food place is acceptable. Create or buy them with the intention of ritual. Do not defile them.

3. A lit BBQ, Campfire etc.

The Ritual will involve saying thanks unto Kek and asking him to please provide many more lols, happenings etc. You can be creative here.

Film it or take photos for lols. This will trigger the normies and provide further sacrificial lols for Pepe.


1. Wear your MAGA hat (or similar)

2. Purchase Trump Wine or American made beer. Pour some onto the fire prior to the tendies then finish the glass. Do this with the attitude of sacrifice and thanks.

Short term goals: Get this trending on social media to stir up autism and to invite swarms of other faithful

Long term: Empowered by hundreds of autistic sacrifices, Pepe will reward us with a great miracle or happening the likes of which we have never seen before.

Go ahead and give it a try. Worst case you have fun for a bit. Best case? Glorious victories.

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Banish kek, thats its only useful purpose. I almost lost my life twice because of this thing and I've never even acknowledged it before. Latched onto the methamphetamine users in my area and tried to murder me twice. Now the homeless methhead warlocks are making their way out in the open in my city. Have fun with your degenerate god



Are there any mods on this chan that are willing to evict the christcuck disruptors here?



>If have an idea for using Kek, please tell me.

If you can use him as you will then it's not really a Godform AFAIK.



On old polytheistic religions, they asked favors for their gods all the time. They asked gods of war to win a battle, and asked gods of agriculture to have a good harvest.

With the creation of memes, Kek's power can be directed many things as long as it's funny enough.



Yeah, of course but when you ask you can be denied, when you use something then you are the master that's what I was getting at - when using a Godform you aren't "in control".

But yeah I know what you mean.

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Recently it has come to my attention that this being Pepe has been trying to infiltrate our beloved sanctuary. I'm here to bring a warning to you. I'm sure most of you are adept enough to stay away from such a degenerate energy so I'm posting this for the newcomers.

Pepe is not on your side. Our world is only a joke, a playground for destruction in its mind. Pepe latches onto to of a degenerate nature, those of the chan culture who are lost and will praise something for being as degenerate as they are. While it may seem funny it is extremely dangerous.

From what I have seen, this entity is more a collective, an egregore at this point who is masquerading as a godform. Unable to create influence on its own it must feed off of the worship of its cult. The way I've seen it manifest change in the physical world is through possession of people on methamphetamine and mdma. This is just a group of entities that have already existed and are masquerading themselves as a more powerful force in the world to reap the loosh that comes with it.

I had to sit in a car with one of my friends who got dosed some mdma when he didn't want it. The spirits tried to get him behind the wheel while intoxicated to kill both of us. The drug dealer who had the mdma and his friends were ever more afflicted by this possession. A very "legion" like feel to it. Saying things like "I thought you were cool" and "I can only get your attention for 30 seconds" to try and get an emotional response from me to feed their "lulz". My life almost became a cosmic joke. These entities fabricate false synchronicities and throw in a ton of positive energy only to flip things around and shove you down into your own festering pile of excrement. They are the equivalent of porn junkies who can only get off on filth because normal isn't enough anymore.

If anyone has any experience with this entity in its true form and not its "lulz" disguise, lets discuss. Stay safe out there wizards. You're smarter than this.


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>shills, the lot of you



Funny how first response in favor of Kek got trips while OP didn't even got a double.


There are some decent occult channels out there. You just need to avoid E. A. Koetting and those heavily influenced by Christianity or new age.

This video about Kek was a lot better: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_yalQP1fKg


Have you ever considered that with your paranoia, you are giving those lesser beings attention and emotional response and therefore energy?



My paranoia was feeding them for a short while, and then once I backed off and realized how weak the entity actually was, it got desperate. Im seeing frogs and people are asking me for meth. It's sad really. It's just a bunch of pre-existing spirits pretending to be a different identity.

Also, these spirits, just like any spirit, can manipulate the physical just enough from the astral to get its "followers" to post with repeating digits so you'll believe and surrender power. No one said synchronicities were always true. The spirits tried to distract me with a bunch of wonderful syncs, about how great my day was, before they tried to take my life.

>The More You Know


>Pepe is not on your side

I don't recall taking a side. Did you?

Also, as a user of imageboards I can't imagine a funniest most ironic pet god than Kek/Pepe. You have to admit they have created a cool egregore


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I for one believe kekposting is more ethically sound than worship of say ebola-chan or moonman. As much as I may desire for a sanctified space to grow my being I do believe the latter examples are too extreme, however it is every single anon's choice where that line is for them and it is *not* you place to tell them where it must be.

And furthermore a little reminder of /fringe/ history, preservation, cultivation, and proliferation of the Aryan ideal and it's people is how we ended up here so you could even shitpost about it. Don't like this boat? >>>/grave/ It's where all end up if they do not master with absolution their very being.

As within so without, so don't say the degenerate state of the world is acceptable.


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Since few months, a new picture or "meme" is present on 8ch called the "oathbreaker", and i'm wondering why all the thread about it were slided, bumploked, or removed.

According to the author, this picture can break "oaths". Here, we haven't oaths, but some religious people have oaths, maybe it's explaining why this subject is censored…

In one thread about it, the OP said "In the Odyssey, Odysseus uses oaths to try to maintain his power over his crew, and maintain the military hierarchy, but he fails"

Don't you think it's a good question to talk about the revelance of oaths ?

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I can explain why this subject receives censure.

Everyone lives inside their own reality bubble. However, many entitites have decided to open their reality bubbles up to each other, creating realities that are shared to a greater or lesser extent. The sharing of realities involves sharing an information set of facts, beliefs, experiences, ideas, or more generally information.

"Memes" are another form of such information. Adding new information to a consensus reality bubble from an individual partially attached to said reality bubble will always be rejected unless and until the information can be integrated into the rest of the reality.

The harder it is to relate the information, the more pushback will be generated. Pushback nay be from the elites, the members, or usually both.

The Oathbreaker is just on the verge of being able to be accepted.



meh, if you say so


>the earth and the moon is an oath breaker.

>the human condition is the test to see what souls will do when given free will.

>free will is only possible because our planet is an oath breaker

>we are in fact connected to the creator and have the ability to sin and not sin because our planet is an oath breaker

>based upon our test of this life our next life is decided


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the life of a bug is a condition that reflects poems describing hell


What is an 'oath' and what is the idea behind it?

is it like you make an oath and if you keep it - you get LOOSH boost

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Let's discuss all important topics divulged by Bear Heart concerning magickal defense and spiritual progress that are meant to be useful for anyone at any level of their spiritual progress. These rituals and knowledge should be provided freely to everyone, including our friends on 8/pol/, who seem to presently be waking up. Bear Heart also contends certain interesting points about particular spirits.

Bear Heart has been in the occult for some twenty years, and went through extreme trials (like surviving and being ruthlessly attacked in the wilderness for multiple days).

The former champion of the Grand Order of the Draco Slayers before they were disbanded, Bear Heart was also a third degree true Wiccan (not this new-age shit that he sincerely hates). He was even once invited to join an order of millionaire vampires in Spain–though he declined.

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Doing LBPR with gedulah on the right and gedulah on the left.

Can anyone comment it?






I respect your opinion as an anonymous

but could you explain what you mean by that? and adress my question: >>7420


AYYY, Ya'll motherfuckers keeping your silence. but now I know WHY

because the standard lbpr is qlippothic and backwards . remain at where you are I'm calling the police of Agharti


deus num existe criançada kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk



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Beginner Spirituality Thread

A thread to our Neophyte's and wanderer's

I thought I had to give you guys one more gift before I depart fringe for a while. My work has become very important to me right now, so much so that I need to dedicate all of my time to it and cannot be here answering questions or doing writeups. I'll come back once I'm called by the same ones who asked me to do these writeups and share the new information and experiences I've gained. I've linked ample amounts of resources and guides for you to be able to develop and progress yourself in that time. Though I've always tried to give the fundamental principles to everything so you can take it on and make it your own. That's my hope for everyone that they can take this work and make it their own, become their own master and learn to self create and source.


It's required that you start up a meditation routine and also that you source a copy of the Kyballion for study of the 7 Hermetic principles. I also suggest reading the other threads I've put out to try gain a holistic understanding. You need to understand your own energetic anatomy. The chakras, dan tiens, yin yang and chi. Most of this comes with the Hermetic laws though. I also suggest reading some basic philosophy be is Daoist, Buddhist, yogic or other. Try to keep away from what bores you.


Hello and welcome to another thread. This is a thread dedicated to initializing and starting your journey on the path. It will serve to alleviate many common pitfalls and mistakes which come with being a neophyte. Coming into spirituality or the greater esoteric can be troubling and difficult due to the scarcity of entry level information or general explanation on what the subject really is and can offer. I hope to clear up some of these problems by creating another practical style thread where you will be given write ups to read and exercises that develop fundamental occult requirements and skills. Some of the subjects to be covered here is on what the path really deals with and is, on meditation, meditatPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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Remember that you are the God. You pick to create your own reality with each action.

Think of nature or the external world as your own body. Should it be harvested or destroyed for personal gain? in moderation. Like one would take a drug.

Think of systems of ascension like language. Every culture has their own and they're completely different. Ultimately they all do the same thing though using different roads.

In an astral form push energy towards whatever you want the body to do. To fuel the will. Whatever I consciously want to happen with my vehicle or astrally I simply need to will it.

Everything that vibrates is a thoughtform. It has polarity.

Elements are different because of rate of vibration. They are all the same.

We're in human form/ world to learn our bodies and world.

12 zodiac 30 degrees of a circle/cycle. 12 parts of the body. 12 archetypes.

People seek others to make themselves whole like a drug. To externalize their incompleteness and allow the other to reinforce their own faults and loss/lack of knowledge. I feel these people give up on finding themselves so instead they externalize the "finding" component and look for an opposite which makes them feel complete. Thus the male searching for female.

You don't need to make something complex for it to be beautiful.

You need to be satisfied by the act of just being and doing. If you cannot then you will look for exterior sensory pleasures to try fulfil yourself with.

Every day you wake up and write another chapter in the book of life. What are you gonna make of it?

Think of the feedback loop idea. What you give out comes back. What you do as a habit happens again and again , so on.

You're manipulating all the energies around you when you become whole and connect with the self.

To get something you gotta give something

You perpetuate what you give to yourself. Love yourself to find love.

Trust your body. You get signals from your intuition through the body. Like hand taps.

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Hey fellas, bumping this post since I am a noob to the practice of magic. I have always kinda done research and had an interest but I am also a lazy piece of shit so I never really tried anything.

Recenly in my study I was reading about Chaos magic and how one should not start with it. One of the things that poped up as a good system for beginners was "smth". I had never heard of this system before so I was wondering if anyone here had an idea what it means or can offer some sort of explanation.



Chaos magic is fairly good to start with since it's 100% results and not much cultivation or anything else. Just have a bit of fun with lesser magic. The entire point of starting in this field is to break your old understand of what reality is and push to to what it can become.



So in other words, it builds you up on a foundation weaker than a pool of liquified shit. No wonder so many chaos magicians go bat-shit crazy and get committed or imprisoned, after losing the ability to function.



Where do you think all the warlocks come from? Chaos magic is an introduction to insanity and the dark side of reality. If you've got the right help when you first start with it, its not so bad, but its not a path one should stay on.

Masturbating your own ego by only relying on your own imagination leads to the path of self-deification/destruction.

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Let me pitch this idea to you /fringe/ - what if all of reality is simply a story 'written' by some higher being? Don't you sometimes feel like life is just following some kind of elaborate narrative?

Maybe there is really a fourth wall, all we need is a way to become aware of it.

Not in the Questions Thread because I believe that there is a lot to discuss here.

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My life would make a shitty story.


What do you guys think of the idea of the monomyth, or hero's journey, the supposed archetypal substrate of all stories and maybe reality itself.

I was considering this idea in relation to some ideas in Godel Escher Bach, specifically the idea that a structure annihilates itself by self-reference. Which got me thinking, what if you fed the monomyth into the monomyth and embodied the story in real life? Some kind of human instrumentality project where you embark on a great heros quest to get every human on the planet to embark on a hero's quest. Would this bring eschaton?



Btw I'll mention what got me started thinking about the monomyth was a series of lectures on youtube by a guy named Jordan Peterson, called maps of meaning, which I can't recommend enough


Take it further. We are another universes meme.



Sounds like you're onto something. I've actually been hypothesizing this myself, but instead of eschaton, it's more like the beginning of the end of the current era.

What you're suggesting though, is taking up a Christ archetype to empower those around who, so that they can continue the cycle and keep the empowerment alive.

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Since I could not find any other thread like this, I decided to create one. In this thread, you can share all your weird dreams with everyone. Some other member might be able to tell you more about the dream. For example, why your dream had a theme of dragons or something similar. Please feel free to share your dreams, no matter how short/long or weird they are!

I will share my dream below that is pretty long. I have never had a dream that long, it is is so full of imagery. If someone could help me understand it, that would be great. For some background information on it, I have had a lot of psychic and paranormal experiences like seeing orbs or apparitions, hearing my name, and a bunch of other stuff after using tarot cards.

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I had a pretty peculiar dream once. It was far in the future and I was on board a spaceship. We were in the middle of a battle, with whom I don't know. Some sort of wire was released and 2 of them cut a ship down. It didn't explode and I remember I was on the bridge as the helmsman. Possibly a navigator or intel type of role. I suggested to the captain that the ship put a current through its hull to keep it together. The ship was saved, probably long enough for all hands to escape. As the battle continued I remember everything sort of fading and I saw Earth and a sense of falling. Then I was in a city park talking to a young woman with reddish brown eyes and light brown/pinkish hair. By our uniforms I could tell we were both in the military. We were very close. I felt like I had known her all my life. Before the dream ended, I remember her saying "I'll be here waiting, the next time you decide to fall from the sky…." Then everything faded away.


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I used to visit this site a few years back, im glad to see its back I suppose.

I had a query to make regarding dreams so I typed fringechan into google as I felt you could answer my basic question.

My head has been very discordant and it's been difficult to isolate thoughts from one another and decide if they are detrimental to my psyche or not. I'm living in a hostel and I think it's likely a certain man has been drugging me. I've been taking a number of psychotic delusions where I have multiple heads and limbs and I can't tell where my body begins and ends. It's a big load of nonsense. My virginity was also taken by someone which has felt like a cattle prod shoved into my head.

I've stopped recalling dreams entirely. Either that or I have seemed to have stopped dreaming somehow. I was wondering if I could have some advice. I was hoping to resume experimentation with dreamscapes again since I actually now have a bedroom and bed where I can reliably fall asleep and document things. That, and i've met someone who has been a large source of inspiration when it comes to my basic uneducated pondering regarding perception and awareness. If im a dumb space cadet, he is the captain of the starship. He has stacks of knowledge stuffed away between the folds of his brain, grained through rigorous experimentation on himself. It's a pain getting him to reveal anything though. He doesn't speak loads.

In keeping with the spirit of the thread however - my last dream was a while back. During sunrise while I was partially awake, so it was easy to recall.

It was surprisingly complex for its duration. It involved the happenings and events surrounding some university student body. There was drama, but the reasons for the drama occurring have escaped me.

Anyways, I miss either dreaming or recalling dreams. I heard you could encourage nightmares by consuming certain foods or substances but I doubt I need to go that far.

I've ended up staying up all night writing and sleeping all day, is it possible this is the cause? I feel it might be. Im sitting alone staring at a screen and my brain isn't exactly having the time of it's lPost too long. Click here to view the full text.



Yea son, get some nighttime sleep.

Real, normal, consistent sleep is the only way I get dreams.

Also take some ZMA vitamins before sleep with more than 30 minutes absent of eating. You'll get crazy, vividly memorable dreams.


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Thank you for your response.

Although for "research" purposes I prefer to see what dreamscapes my mind takes me to by itself without a whole lot of outside influences.

Still, you could argue that everything is an outside influence. I should reserve some time to try your suggestion just for the fun of it. Give myself an interesting experience.

Id like to learn what others think about this topic. I have always been of the belief that If I perceive something, nobody could prove to me that it isn't real or otherwise. But what does that mean if we can influence the nature of a dream through outside measures such as substances?


Ok guys. I have a dream that I'm hoping to get an answer for. Everytime just get some cryptic stuff about figuring it out on my own. Now it's been a while since I've recounted this one but I still remember the gist of it.

I know I'm in some sort of steampunk/rusty building. Iirc.i got a glimpse of the outside and it was pretty barren and destroyed out there.i was there with another person, we were looking for something I think. But the next thing I remember is we were fighting some kind of black/dark/shadow creature. We were losing its attention was on me and my partner/friend rushed it and stabbed it from behind. There was a silent moment before it arched it's back until it practically was touching the floor screeche'd out "blood" and the world went kinda black and white as if there was some kind of blinding flash. Then the next thing I know is that I'm racing up a metalspiral staircase with a small bundle in my arm. At first I thought it was a baby but it kept changing. First a boy then a girl, then it appeared elderly as I reached a metal mesh catwalk of sorts.

And that's all I remember right now. I'm pretty sure I woke up at that point though

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