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When one becomes skilled at telepathy are they more plugged into a base collective consciousness or are they picking up and sending thoughts as an individual?

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>/fringe/ is a board for esoteric discussion including matters pertaining to; Magic : Philosophy : Paranormal : Dreams : Religion : Occult : Symbolism : Aliens : Demons & Angels : Metaphysics : Conspiracy : Secret Societies : Mind Control : Morality & Ethics : Mysticism : Qualia : Psychic Abilities – Anything that is fringe in some respect

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The name "/fringe/" is inspired by the book ''Fringe Knowledge for Beginners" by Montalk (which can be found here: http://montalk.net/books). Visiting the montalk site is also a good way to understand the scope of the topics of discussion which /fringe/ covers.

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/fringe/ Youtube Channels:

1. http://www.youtube.com/user/TomMontalk

2. http://www.youtube.com/user/avatarenergymastery

3. http://www.youtube.com/user/HybridLibrarian

4. http://www.youtube.com/user/EsotericAudiobooks

5. http://www.youtube.com/user/MasonicBooks

6. http://www.youtube.com/user/AudioEnlightenment

7. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCO4iVC3ANt3xXQ2cjQFqcXw/videos

8. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC1kY2rsQAtVRzA0TErE3JKg

/fringe/ Youtube Playlists:

1. Michael Talbot - Rare Holographic Universe Lecture 1/12

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL4M--cHh5qOg71_-UDzsdtw0vU1lV-T5q (a very important greenpill about the holographic mental universe, disproves materialism)

2. Consciousness The Ultimate Reality by Tom Campbell 1/13

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Can we have a thread dedicated to other forums and their suspected hidden motivations. Eg godlikeproductions and Tavistock. Shills and social manipulation on abovetopsecret and 4chan, etc.

Where do u think shills are the most active right now? How can I tell them apart from real posters?

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>Is anyone else recognizing what this poster is really saying?

good point, man. Thanks for the heightened awareness


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The endless shilling and portraying Satan and his Demons as "muh evil incarnate" is prevalent on nearly any board - even here. Not sure to what extend (((alphabet agencies))) are behind this, but its pretty noticeable.


>if someone isn't a shill he's a mindless white trash racist, white supremacist or a womenhater.

That's a pretty shill-esque statement. /pol/ still mostly just consists of national socialists, that's the foundation – those who talk the loudest (eg. about females) are not the majority or a good representation of the average user. I'd argue that the division they create between both genders is even the work of shills, divide and conquer and make sure that white folk don't breed with other whites, or at all.



You gotta be kidding me. The entire foundation of Islam is spiritual imprisonment, just like its sisters religions. Anyone who doesn't follow the Qur'An as described, eg, not resorting to violence against infidels and whatnot, is not a true muslim. It really is that fucking simple. In a rational society, Islam would be seen as a threat for what it expects its followers to do - its inhuman and works directly for the benefits of (both literal and figurative) inhuman beings.


>he fell for the racism buzzword.

There's nothing wrong with racial segregation. Hating other gentile races is quite pointless, but distinctions and proper follow up laws and systems should be build around it so that BOTH races can flower and bloom at their fullest potential - that is not by racemixing in a big melting pot multicultural marxist shithole, which is currently case for nearly any civilized western country, unsurprisingly shilled for by Jews.

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Weird how all the statements addressed are the parts where /pol/ shilling was critized.

/pol/ culture is currently leaking everywhere over the web, just go into youtube and check the comments, it's ironic how obvious they are, always using anime pics, trump posters, the happy merchant etc.

There's another funny thing about it:

White supremacists are actually pro immigration. Take a step back and think about it, the entire slave owner system was based on immigration - black immigration to a white nation.

That's not me twisting words, that's reality.

The abolitionists may just have wanted to enslave everyone, but it doesn't really matter here. They didn't actively support mass immigration of people from an incompatible culture.

Not to mention how the KKK was the extremist wing of the democratic party, much like the tea party is for the republicans today.

Then for the anti-islamism. Why do right wingers fall for this, obvious zionist idea? Hitler himself liked muslims, he called islam "The perfect soldier religion - everyone prays together, fight together, and if they die they all go to paradise."

Wether this is intentional shilling or not doesn't matter, it's shilling just the same.

Someone is spreading these ideas in right wing forums and making the discussion stray from the original national socialism. I'm not a natsoc myself but I kinda like the general view of economy applied in germany during that time. It'sPost too long. Click here to view the full text.


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Your post is a mess. On top of side-stepping what was aimed at you your sentence-space-sentence format is yet another giveaway. You've fallen into nonsensical rambling that you make Jared Lee Loughner sound reasonable. You somehow tried to frankenstein together white supremacy and pro-immigration with national socialism and then posed it as proof of shilling as if those were in any way connected.

There's inversions of the truth, there's twisting of facts, and then there's whatever you posted.



You are delusional, the majority of the political power pushing ""refugees"" into europe is made up of jews, the western media is controlled by the jews and it is doing everything it can to protect islam, islam is one of the abrahamic religions, it is also a tool for jews

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I'm in the making of some wet ormus now using lye and dead sea sea salt. Lets get some tips and tricks going and people can post their ratio recipes, chemicals and more.

Necessary disclaimer:

Chemicals are bad to ingest, inhale and touch. If you fail to take precautions when using dangerous chemicals, you aid in the statistics for natural selection. Also the doctor and nurse that will force you to vomit and have raging diarrhea will hate you for wasting their time when other patients need actual help. So do your chemical mixing outside, with clothes, mask, gloves and lab coat and take precaution in chemical rules.

Read safety instructions for each chemical.

Look up mixing of chemicals to get previous experiences from professionals and beginners.

Don't add water to sodium hydroxide. The sudden increase in temperature will cause a violent reaction leading to glass shatters everywhere.

Acids burn your tissue, alkaline compounds like lye water disintegrates tissue. Rinse with water for many minutes even after the point where it doesn't hurt.

That being said:

What is Ormus?

Ormus, often named ORME means (Orbitally Rearranged Monoatomic Element or M-state element). According to alchemists, Ormus is a mix of precious metals that turn into a powder or misty liquid, which is then edible by humans and can be applied to plants and on wounds for it's effects. There are several different Ormuses in different shape such as wet, dry, white, red which are the result of different alchemical processses one may use. It can be extracted from any living thing, but most common is salts, urine and some plants but also direct extraction from gold and silver.

When tested, M-state powder or liquid have contained:

Cobalt, Nickel, Copper, Ruthenium, Rhodium, Palladium, Silver, Osmium, Iridium, Platinum, Gold and or Mercury.

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I'm currently making wet method Ormus for my first time. I'm following the recipe off this website:


The lye water and salt water solution is currently in the kitchen wrapped in foil for tomorrow.

The first failure I had is that my pH meter gave me bad readings. Mostly because I failed to use preservation liquid, calibration liquids and the manual doesn't state the proper handling to keep the glass bulb hydrated.

My distilled fridge water read at 9 pH, tap water at 7pH and warm tap at 8pH. When I put one spoon of Lye in the 100ml water, the meter read close to 12.9 pH which is close to what Lye water actually is (13-14 pH). I took the dosage syringe and added a couple of drops to the 200ml salt water solution. I barely used 1 ml of lye water to get the pH up to 10.6. I stopped at that because if the meter is reading error and I go above 10.7, I might create the crystals which are bad. But as the angel dust started forming it looked good.

I bought myself 2 calibration fluids, one cleaning fluid and one preservation fluid for the meter I'll put in bottles later and seal with the meter inside. I will calibrate the the meter every time from now on to make sure I don't go over 10.7 for the M-state solution.

Stuff I learned:

Lye water is odorless but irritating even with a gas mask. Putting lye water on soil creates a vinegar smell. Stirring and measuring pH is hard. Ended up using the pH meter to stir. pH meters degrade when used in fluids with temperature differences. pH meters degrade when dry because of salt crystals.

Salt broke down in cold water very quickly.

M-state angel dust is pretty.

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When ever you experience anxiety, fear, dread or the unsettling aura of impaired consciousness, may this black fractal remind you that you are AWARE. "That being said, what do you want to do?"


"Welcome, to the real world."


"Tat Tvam Asi"


i don't really want to do anything, i think. but i don't know


I don't understand.



the Black Sun with take what you don't want (anxiety/fear/etc), allowing empty/open space for what you do want to "enter"/arise

think of a golden sun behind you, and a black sun in front of you. they are spinning in different directions. "unlock" your front, relaxing your hold, and allow what you're giving up to leak out of you/be captured by the gravity of the black sun. when you feel like you've expelled it all, lock your front, unlock your back, and trust that the golden sun will give you everything you need/want and more.

the end/beginning ;-)

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Ryan's FAQ


Succubus Collective Blog


Collective Forum


There seems to be a lot of "idle" interest in this subject but not a lot of people who manages to get beyond the question: How do I make an initial contact?

The number of wordpress blogs discussing experiences have grown from 6 - 40+ in just a year or so. The only problem with this is that blogs are personal outlets and not a good base for actual discussion.

Once you are "up there" and have your own connection you close yourself inside this world and only talk to other experienced people. This leaves beginners on the outside.

My aim here is to see if we can find a way to help those interested but inexperienced people, and also open the "inner circle" a little bit and get them to come and talk outside of the blog format.

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>1) demons

>2) naturally mean bullies

>3) collect souls and use them as pets or energy sources

>4) rip people off if they can get away with it

>5) want to control the world

Oh geez, what a surprise that these exact points are near one-on-one with the traits and points that the malevolent alliance of extraterrestrials that keep this floating rock a prison planet.. surely they have nothing in common, right? /sarcasm.

I was right, this is just another program by the legions of Yahweh to further the grips on gullible souls and thereby exert more influence over planet Earth. Not only did they make it as blatant by using the bible as factual source (which should be red flags for everyone), they also just flat out state their intentions - that makes sure everyone who still follows them up to that point is a born traitor and ready to be used as a pawn.

>The good part is: succubus are now recruiting and you can join.

The people that these programs target are really the lowest common denominator. Driven by sexual lust, these humans turn their back on their own very species, all for a bit of sexual satisfaction. Despicable degeneracy, these people should be executed would they not reconcile their destructive and subversive endeavors - for they are no more but literal traitors.


>It's been openly stated on linked websites that succubus are

Stop implying that all succubi are like that. That's blatantly false. Satanic succubi do not want to control the world or steal energy/souls. They wish to see humanity empowered and act like actual wives - and will truly help in the ascension to Godhood of their mate. They don't act like subversie Jewish whores who wish to see the Gentile races of earth at their knees, like the ones you advertise do.

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It's true many beings do not like the Collective, but none of this matters.

The Collective has survived the destruction of many universes and seeing new ones created and destroyed again.

We are simply offering a chance for beings of this current universe to avoid this destruction and live on, untouched.

While you are talking of reincarnation, and leaving this cycle, you are still not leaving the cycle of the universe's life and death. This is what we offer our members.



>hypothetical bullshit about universes dying and rebirthing.

Even if that was true, to think that these beings you align yourself with are the only ones capable of surviving something like that is ignorant. Its not something exclusive - if they can, everyone can with the right know how. And if you don't believe they are the only ones capable of doing that, why align yourself with these beings who clearly aren't benevolent for your kind? What am I missing here? Or are you just naturally inclined to join up with destructive groups?

>We are simply offering a chance for beings of this current universe to avoid this destruction and live on, untouched.

I'm not buying it. You already stated that these beings are deceitful, want to 'control the world' and just want to use us as power sources. Why the fuck believe anything they say?

It also doesn't make a sense for a supposed collective that is capable of surviving the death and rebirth of the universe to be interested in 'controlling the world'.

>It's true many beings do not like the Collective, but none of this matters.

What a surprise after trying to enslave our species and many others, bringing ruin and degeneracy to my genetic brothers and sisters, spiritually degrading and enslaving my people, even flat-out committing genocide. What a fucking surprise.



I'm right there with you fam against YHVH and whatnot but nevertheless:

>bringing ruin and degeneracy

People choose these things for themselves, if someone is willing to give out loosh for sex then so be it, I don't have a problem with that, why do you? Actually I think that denying people their freedom to indulge in whatever they want would be enslavement.


>le degeneracy meme

What do you mean by that? It's a meaningless term nowadays as anyone can call almost anything by this name. Is astral sex something degenerate in your eyes? Is physical sex?



>to think that these beings you align yourself with are the only ones capable of surviving something like that is ignorant. Its not something exclusive - if they can, everyone can with the right know how.

Sure, but on the negative side there are not many. The Collective is the largest group here, your stance towards us only determines how limited you will be.

>Choose the membership route and you get support.

>Choose to be an ally (or join an ally, we do have them) and you will be left alone when encountering collective members.

>Choose to be independent and it's up to the individual succubus how they treat you. >Choose opposition and you will be suppressed on sight.

These are standard rules used by everyone.

A lot of people experience what they think is "hauntings" after contacting a collective succubus. This is a common misunderstanding. The "hauntings" - often experienced as threatening shadows in your room at night, hearing growls, even finding slimy substances in your bed. All these are because of the demons/malicious spirits being removed by the succubus. Most places have demons and ghosts of all sorts. A single succubus can kill/drive away all of them from your house. In the process they will attempt to fight the succubus, and this will result in manifestations like these.

This is an example to explain why opposition is unwise.

Another more concrete example:


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Ok… I talked about it with some people from my family, including my mother and my aunt. (They are kind of /fringe too, but mostly new age or whatever.)

My mom told me maybe it was a past live.

My aunt told me I was abducted.

It was a dream. Or so i thought. I remember running through a forest. The trees were slim and high. It was night and the ground was brown, which gave me a sensation that it was autumn. We were running from something or someone. There were beans of light that resembled spotlights. The trees were whitish. And there were some beings running with me. Pic 2 is almost identical. But the one i met was very… friendly is not the word, but I got good vibes from it. Not in a happy way, but a piety and compassion way. Maybe love. Next day when I explained the dream to my mother I told her that I thought that the being was my mother… Because then I thought it was only a dream, and that in the dream I was a white ""alien"" too.

But the white being was much taller than me. That is why I thought maybe it was my mother.

I could jump really high there. But once we reached a wall I couldn't surpass it took one of the ones that were with us on it's arms, jumped with him and trowed him to the other side, than it was my turn.

The spotlights were getting nearer.

That's as much as I remember.

I think it was a she. The skin was smoother than the picture. Eyes larger, black. She was very white, but not translucent. I don't remember any clothing.

What the hell was all that? Why do people say Tall Greys are bad? If they are, why this one helped?

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Food for thought:

>It is not possible to say that one alien species is absolutely positive and another negative since within the same species there may be examples of both, but for some types the orientation is more clear-cut than others. For example, grays are not a unique race of sentient beings with freewill, rather they are genetically engineered automatons programmed to do menial labor for their reptilian creators, and since only negative aliens resort to using artificial slaves, the existence of positive grays is virtually zero.

- Fringe Knowledge for Beginners by Montalk

You know what they say; Do not fall prey to the tricks of the grays.




But this was a tall grey… And she helped me escape… Maybe it was a grey/humam hybrid…

Anyway, just wanted to share.



Forgot to change my tripcode after messing with Trip.



What do you mean hostile projection?



Also, what do you mean assuming this is true? It was a dream, man. At least the dream was real in a way. I am being sincere. I hardly remember any dreams. This one, after years is still vivid in my mind.

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"It is a mistake to consider any belief more liberated than another. It is the possibility of change which is important. Every new form of liberation is destined to eventually become another form of enslavement for most of its adherents. There is no freedom from duality on this plane of existence, but one may at least aspire to choice of duality."

-Peter J. Carroll, Liber Null and Psychonaut

"Chaosophy" is a meta-belief that all beliefs are tools for power. "Nothing is true, everything is permited" means that all possible interpretations of reality(religions, magick systems,etc.) are valid and every way of manipulating reality works as long as you belive in it.

Chaos magick primary teachings are probably familiar to most magicians. The basics of practical works are

Warning: It's very easy to get crazy with this, so do yourself a favor and don't take it too seriously

You can ask me any question on this thread. (I might take some time to answer)

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I'm a chaos practitioner and I'm drunk. Idk what you're talking about.



I'm not but I wish I were :(

well, still isn't too late for that I guess


>I'm not but I wish I were :(

What? Drunk or a chaos magician?





Been too busy to practice and always wanted to mix chaos magick with psychotronic amplifiers

Especially since I'm down tens of thousands just this week… fucker who did it not even of an apology was capable, let alone the money.

Found the perfect scumbag for psychotronic experimenting.

Lets say Id like to make the fucker lose motor control while crossing a bridge or commit all kinds mistakes at work or get inexplicably sick over and over again.

Any experienced anons?

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Who here uses cleaning as a meditational exercise and simultaneously as they physically clean up and organize a space they purify it on the etheric and astral levels as well?

The room you are in effects your mind greatly. How you arrange everything in your room changes the energy flow and matters in other ways too.

When I go through my room, I make an effort to imagine each object in the room, and I organize everything carefully. I know exactly where everything in my room is and I have at least a hundred or more objects in here. This is a good practice to develop your higher imaginal/astral senses and your memory.

As you clean you should really feel and think about what you're doing. The touching of things, rubbing them down, etc. is you imagine it as you do it, uses and increases your capacity for storing Earth-energy (which lets you do psyhokinesis and various other things, it's the touch-energy that has to do with space and pressure and gravity and stuff). While you clean everything as well, you can force some of your energy into the surroundings and into the things you clean, and purge them.

I burn incense and I get all the dust out and I open the windows to get everything aired out on a day where the weather permits it.

It is good to have everything organized and stored away. Your room should have as little distractions as possible that you have to constantly filter out. If you've ever been in a really messy, noisy, busy place a lot where there's constant shit you have to strain yourself to block out and then spent awhile in simple surroundings in a very quiet place, you will notice you feel way less stressed and energy deprived, as less energy is wasted constantly trying to block stuff out. I for one keep a boxfan going all the time producing white noise to block out the noises of mundanes below and also keep the air well circulated in my room; under more ideal conditions I wish I could turn it off more from time to time and actually get complete silence but I can't.

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Thanks! c:



Who is he helping?

I won't bore you with my ignorance, but he has a viewpoint and a certain level of awareness different from the two of us.

Different, not necessarily wrong.

Knowledge is power, and how will one use it in the meantime?


I like you though, you charming devil ;)

Honestly you've got an interesting angle, and I wanna hear more.


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>who is he helping?

The anon who was in the depths of ignorance regarding Tantra :^)

It's not just a different viewpoint, it's solid research and facts about the system. Or rather it is a viewpoint, but one that is supported with original texts and not common misconceptions. I did admit that sexual rites definitely had their place in Tantra but Tantra is far from being equal to sex, as Mike Magee wrote:

>sexuality is a part of the sadhana (work on oneself) and the tradition, and then, perhaps, only at a certain stage and for a certain time

But of course, when we are talking about something which cannot be supported with scholarly research, then obviously I'm left with just my perspective.

>but he has a viewpoint and a certain level of awareness different from the two of us

Don't we all have a unique viewpoint and level of awareness? I wouldn't call myself special in that regard.

But thanks nevertheless!

>I like you though, you charming devil ;)

You guys are so nice!

>Honestly you've got an interesting angle, and I wanna hear more.

Tbh I'm even thinking about making some threads, but I don't wanna do it half assed.


picrel :^)


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Back to the topic in question:

I realize how my brain feels more "at ease" when I tidy my room, but I am quite lazy. I always try to make things easier for me, meaning I put the things I use more often closer to me, I put notes around my computer screen regarding things I don't want to forget, I got a coat hanger that I have designated exclusively for my keys, and I wear a lanyard with them, so every time I come home I immediately take them off and put them on that hanger. I have designated places for other things, such as my sunglasses, my wallet, etc.

Still, I'm sure there are lots of things I could be doing more efficiently. Do you guys know of any good books talking about organization and how to reduce clutter? Or websites, or any online resources?

Thank you :)

pic related is my workspace



>Still, I'm sure there are lots of things I could be doing more efficiently. Do you guys know of any good books talking about organization and how to reduce clutter? Or websites, or any online resources?

1: Use your will power to clean up your shit.

2: For a more mundane path, every room you leave take AT LEAST one thing out with you that needs to be moved/cleaned/trashed/ect.

3: Work upon your memory, the more you positively rely upon your memory, the better it will be. Relying upon notes for memory can be a negative habit.

4: You can read all the books in the world on being organized, but it will still never help you unless you apply your will.

A general suggestion, use your imagination and meditate regularly.

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Do you want a fringe fortress? A bastion of magic and consciousness where you can learn and become self-realized away from all the mundanity of the world? Then we invite you to join us in manifesting it.

There are several of us already dedicated to this project, but all true seekers are welcomed.

We're already building a digital wizard academy, lets bring it into the physical as well, let's make something glorious.

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That is certainly interesting, but can you really live off that? I have considered running a store for similar and living in it, but even then can you make the several tens of thousands of dollars required to live and fund yourself?


Best of luck, may we cross paths someday.


But you do not take money from the people who indoctrinated you. You do not take money from those who lined the media with propaganda. You take it from the hard working mundanes who, while wasting their lives, are still here to learn and live just like us. I do not see them as enemies, or people who must suffer. They just think differently.

There is no "us" versus "them". Yes, there are people who basically control everything. But they are irrelevant to our greater mission, which is the ascension of the self. I have no interest in joining in the mundane game of "work until you fall into place" and using magick to "fight back". I do not wish to play at all.

I want to take what pleasantries I can get without devoting my life to a meaningless cause of mundane work. This is what magick can help me do, avoid playing the game while not losing opportunities. Imagine if you could place yourself physically somewhere else in the world, instead of having to work for the faceless beast that is society to get the fake currency that permits you to be on their transportation. I don't want to rely on anything anymore,.



>You take it from the hard working mundanes who, while wasting their lives, are still here to learn and live just like us. I do not see them as enemies, or people who must suffer. They just think differently.

If they are somehow innocent when they are the ones who made money while abusing me, sure.. But in the bigger picture the only thing I can do is to gather what skills, experiences and funds I can, from anyone. When I reach outside of this I can compensate those who lost too much. Not reaching out there would mean noone gains anything, not me and not so called innocent mundanes either.

I still need a solid platform first, other people are free to support me in this, if they want, it will be for their gain as well in the end. But this rarely happens voluntarily from their part. They will go to almost any lenght to defend the abusers, so then I can't really care about their losses.

> I do not wish to play at all.

The problem with this stance is that you do not have the choice unless you already are on the winning side. All you can do before that is running and hiding, and that is still playing the game. You need to step outside of it while you're above it, not below it.



>You need to step outside of it while you're above it, not below it.

I wanted to step out of the normal relationship game when I was below it and that didn't work.

But I think it will in not too long from now.


If you choose to step out of the game then you should be ready for a good struggle, but if you survive that struggle you will have smooth sailing and clear skies in respect to what ever game you are talking about.

>What doesn't kill you makes you stronger.



I, and I'm sure, several others, still pour energy into this manifestative goal. Personally it is something quite dear to my heart and even if it takes some time, that shall not deter any one with a clear understanding of magical laws.

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So Fringewizard got v& and sent to psych ward.


For those of you who don't know, he is the board owner of 8ch.net/fringe and he was (still is?) admin here.

This should be a reminder that no matter what system you use you must always remember: Magic is to bring desired change trough will. At its core, magic is power. Power over yourself, power over others, power over your environment. At its most simple, magic is about living the life you want. Don't make the mistakes fringewizard made.

ITT: Post your stories of strength and mastering will. Post the ways you keep yourself away from slipping to lunacy. Chaos magicians specially, since chaos magic is riding the edge between craziness and enlightenment.

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dubs confirm it



> IDK why everybody says chaos magic makes you lose your marbles

Because it attracts a lot of people who have already lost their marbles or are on the verge of losing them and they blame it on the sick summoning ritual they did the first day they learned about magic.



>Smiley 'The most powerful wizard on the internet'

Does not understand the workings of the universe.

Does not understand how shapeshifting works

Does not control his sexual urges

Does not understand shaving


Not the same guy, but i thought I'd respond anyway

>if you fail to understand that and find power from that information, you're no wizard.

Language conveys meaning, and your native language is the closest to your mind. I can explain myself pretty decently in English, but my native tongue is the one I can truly express myself in. When people experience strong emotions, they will return to their native language in a heartbeat.

If one has a good grasp of their native tongue, one can truly speak and understand the language of the spirit in the mundane world.

>Make friends who are different from you

Not necessarily mundanes, but someone who can offer a different viewpoint is valuable. Some people can derail themselves through their own thoughts echoing in their heads, and maybe Smiley is a great example of this. Find someone who can put you back on track.

The showing off part makes no sense to me either, but it's still a great idea to have an 'earthly' hobby to clear your mind.


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>Language conveys meaning etc

It does, but you can't really convey abstractions though it, the best you can do is using metaphors and approximating what you mean.

Example: I can't exactly explain the feeling I have when I think about how and why language is imperfect. I can use the metaphor that words are only roadsigns leading one (or not) to understanding the matter for themselves.

You can't explain colors with words. You can talk all you want to a blind person and still not make him understand what red is. In the same way you can't put into words what love is or what hate is. Even if you try, and think you succeed, how can you be sure that the other person got it right? The subtle movements of subconsciousness, intuitions, feelings - they are ineffable and this is the real source code. Language is only useful in communication between one personality and the other and in gathering and preserving knowledge. The hardest thing is actually understanding it and letting it soak deeper. Maybe that's why mystical, ancient texts are usually written in such poetic and often cryptic manner.

>no magical qt3.14 to prevent me from derailing myself through my own echoing thoughts

why live? ;_;


It's probably high-functioning autism along with ADHD.

He seems to enjoy spending his time doing very repetitious things, provided that said things are very easy and don't have a high learning curve.

He spends a lot of time with occultism because there is no rigor or proof to it. No one within occultist communities can necessarily "prove" him wrong because proofs are not integral to occultism. In a way you could consider it to be free style poetry. It's all fun and games until the issues arise where he tries to apply some of that "poetry" in real life.

He was homeschooled. That should be a red flag because his "bluepilled" parents must have had some reason to decide that. While I'm against the school system in principle because of its inherent design to produce cogs in the wheel, Kenneth did not receive any decent education outside of the public school system. Kenneth claims it's his parents' fault he's not well educated, but it could be that he suffers from an intellectual disability that hinders his ability to learn.

His attention span appears to be very low for any activities that require substantial cognitive and visual-spatial ability (unusual for HFA people but it happens). He always comes up with some excuse for his inability to learn and practice.

When he bought a drawing tablet with the hopes of drawing art, he only spent a few minutes drawing some scribbles, then he decided he's satisfied because he doesn't have the attention span to practice. The tablet is now collecting dust. Same thing with his clay models, he spent a minute making basic cylinders meant to represent human legs and arms, but didn't have the attention span to chip away and refine the clay pieces so that they actually resemble something.

He says he doesn't like to listen to any song more than once. I can understand that some songs can be repetitious and get boring quicker than others, but he takes it to an extreme level and refuses to spend even a second thinking about any of the lyrics, and what parts of the song make it sound pleasing (is it rhythm? harmonic consistency? etc.)

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I invite people of all schools and ranks to an IRC chat room for discussing and developing our interest in the fringe topics.

Use this link to join through a web client:


Or connect using an IRC client at:

Server: chat.freenode.net

Port: 667

Channel: /join ##fringe

To read more about IRC, rules and more, visit: http://fringechan.org/irc.html or click the IRC button in the top menu.

Contrary to popular belief: the IRC channel is not dead.

Welcometh thee.



>Contrary to popular belief: the IRC channel is not dead

A mistake I made.

Lately I've been wanting to keep in touch with like-minded people so I think I will be there whenever I can.

Also, if anyone wanna talk or whatever then add me on Skype and we can become best of friends in no time! Text only though.

Skype: indiegogo.pill



We can also do some magic experiments or whatever if anyone is up for it. I've always been working alone and it may be the time to widen my horizons.

But of course we can also do it on IRC.


Why not discuss the stuff on the site?



Threads serve their purpose as billboards and long period storage for information. The chat is a quick gathering of people that want to exchange quick discussions about things. Sometimes a thread's topic goes into the chat, then comes out as a post and vice versa.

Enjoy the chat for what it is, enjoy the board for what it is.

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I'm looking for a question.

I have the answer.

Will you please help me?

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You're godsent, I found it.



What was it?



Why bother?


*unzip benis*

dog bles murika :DDDDDD


This belongs in /loosh/ tbh.

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Hail, and praise Kek!

A new endeavour has begun! Kek rings for all!

Any suggestions for what to make next? What's fringeworthy? And what sizes?

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The Egyptian pantheon is already in progress…

Here is Anubis, though as a pendant.



Hey, those looks awesome. I read they are 3d printed, meaning one could get some other designs on them. Have you experimented with other designs? Could it be possible to do custom requests?

Also I'm not in the US so maybe transportation fees would be a bit prohibitive, who knows



Thanks! As for shipping, shapeways is pretty good. Highest I saw was 11 bucks so far, but someone just told me about these discounts, so you might not have to pay shipping at all https://www.retailmenot.com/view/shapeways.com?c=7806923

As for custom designs? That's how we make our living… but these things can take a lot of hours of work to do, depending on the design.


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Here's sekhmet, thinking of making a ring version too.



Awesome, I want to save some money to buy some magic items and I would definitely would like something custom, nothing complicated (like the KEK on the OP image) . As soon as I have at least $100 I'll invest in some of this stuff, saved the link to the store just in case this thread disappears

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Thread for discussion of influencing the universe with your mind.

Share your opinions of what allows one to and prevents one from doing such things.

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Just do it man.

It took me about three months to get some solid results.

There does not seem to be anything very complex about it. It just takes time to develop the ability to concentrate.

Set up some easy experiment, look at it, and see it moving.

While I have done it quite a few times(with a straw hanging in a jar, wind movements, water movement), I think that grasping its full nature is quite difficult.

It seems that the worst thing that you can do is to try to force the items to move.

The best way that I could describe it, is you actually merge with the item, and because you move, the items moves.

Its not really possible to move items with the mind on the material plane. However, if you make changes and influences on the higher planes, aka mental plane, if you do it with enough energy and focus, it goes down to the material. I am saying this so that you would not try to force the items to move. Its impossible. You have to reach them at a deeper level, and let them move by themselves….


You cannot influence the universe with your mind. Instead, the universe can influence itself through your mind. This basically translates to "things happen".

Separating yourself from the universe in any way only ever had pragmatic value. If you want to contemplate stuff just because, and have no specific goal in mind, you probably are better off not making the difference, except perhaps when you take a look at this common distinction



This guy knows what he's talking about.



thanks a lot for that. cheers



I can only get things to move in my dreams. I thought I had a string swinging one time, but it was difficult to tell if it was just the ground shaking.

Sometimes I think the power is there but there could be a counter power or ward to keep the undeveloped souls here from messing up the training ground. From what I can tell poltergeists aren't actually ghosts in most cases, but adolescents doing psychokinesis unwittingly.

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