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I've already asked this question but got no answer, so i'll post it again - i've figured out im not my thoughts, it was sort of an *aha!* moment. But i do not feel enlightenment, do not feel joy, bliss, love or anything like that.
Also, what does unconditional love have to do with enlightenment? I am trying to have love for myself and for other beings (in the sense that Love is promoting growth and positive things), and i feel really good, but i feel it is not the end goal. Enlightenment is the end goal right?
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What are your opinions on Sikhism?
The tenets of the religion actually make a lot of sense to me, it's monotheistic but at the same time proposes there's a universal life force, similar to Tao, (Divine spark in everything), and believes in rebirths and pacifism.
What are your individual thoughts on the faith?
I'm currently struggling to choose between it, and Christianity, but see myself more on the Christian side.
I originally posted this on /rel/ in 2^3chan but the board is dead. Now reposted this because I used the wrong thread.
(Also, what's up with the auto nametags? I got philosopher, is this some sort of question mark detecting script?)
They can fill your entire diversity quota with just one employment.
Yo, I'm an artfag and I was wondering how I could incorporate occult shenanigans into drawing.
I figured I spend half my time drawing anyway, might as well try and combine it with the fringe business and what not, but I don't quite know how.
The only thing I can really think of is that a drawing would be able to function a sort of sigil, but I'd be glad to hear some specifics or any other methods.
1) Why should I /nofap/?
2) What does OP pic mean?
There is no end goal as individual, the End Goal is the End. Once the I ends, the end has ended.
Man i don't understand anything you said.
How do i get enlightenment? What is enlightenment anyway?
Enlightment will come, you only need to accept it. In the end, you will get enlightment.
Is the moon natural or an artificial construct(some kind of spaceship/base/deathstar)? If it is, does that effect lunar magic in any way? Has anyone here tried remote viewing the moon/its insides?
Occult improving art:
>Learn automatic drawing/writing and incorporate it into your art.
>Learn some magical system and implement its symbolism into your works.
>Invoke ideas or beings and basically channel whole paintings (I suspect many surrealists worked in this way).
Art improving occult:
>Use drawing as a form of meditation, also look up mandalas
>Creating something akin to mandala/yantra which will then be used as a focus in meditation
>Get into deep trance and basically paint pictures in your mind (you can even make it 3D and walk within your painting). You can do the same in lucid dream.
Just a few ideas I got. These require various effort and amount of study before you can pull them off, but just find something you'd like to do and do it.
For me art is magic and magic is an art, so you being an artfag really comes a long way when it comes to the occult. I bet you'd have easier time thoughtforming and getting info from astral than your average mundane.
>I'm currently struggling to choose between it, and Christianity, but see myself more on the Christian side.
Why do you even choose sides? There are no sides. In the end siding with some "official" religion will be detrimental to you. Walk your own path.
>Man i don't understand anything you said.
You can't understand enlightenment because it is beyond logic. There is no point in talking about enlightenment. Although different people mean different things. For some being enlightened is equal to being mildly interested in the occult, to others it means achieving the ultimate knowledge of the Godhead/uniting with the All/achieving Godhood or Moksha or Buddhahood/being able to see beyond Maya etc. Take your pick.
You are only starting now. Don't worry what will come at the end of your journey (which is probably in another couple thousands births).
The moon is natural.
There are so many strange things about it, I really hope it is but I just don't know
Is the Earth natural?
Why would the moon be artificial, or at least, more artificial than Earth?
Moon magic is real shit, no matter if moon is real or not.
Is it normal for my desire to masturbate to lessen after I meditate?
In my case it would be the latter… Is there a way of achieving this?
Because the moon has strong influence over the Earth. Earth as we know it would not exist without the Moon, even science says so.
The way will show itself, live, live your life and all will happen. There is no time, there is no worry, all will happen.
Thanks. I'd follow your advice, but i lost the will to live. I can't enjoy anything anymore… Spirituality is my last ditch effort, i am starting to contemplate suicide. Maybe im being melodramatic, but this is just the way i see it, i don't know.
I don't know, I assume so but I could be wrong.
It has a lot of influence over the earth, there is a lot of material out there on the moon being basically a spaceship, or if it was natural, being modified to be a spaceship/base for reptilians or something. I don't know about science saying so being proof, I'm just curious
>Is there a way of achieving this?
I'm not a specialist because I know I'm not ready for that, but you may want to look into various traditions of Buddhism and/or Tantra. Although Tantra is more magic focused and have a lot more rituals concerned with gaining magical powers and not spiritual fulfillment (nevertheless, both have their place in the system).
>Spirituality is my last ditch effort, i am starting to contemplate suicide.
There are easier ways to help yourself than to achieve liberation (which, from this planes point of view, is kinda a cosmic suicide).
Start meditating and practicing magic with the focus mostly on emotional alchemy. If you will succeed you will be able to completely re-do yourself. If not then at least you will have a bit stronger connection to the occult in your next life.
I become lucid in my dreams sometimes, twice earlier, but lose control quite quickly, and have never had success at changing the scenery, it always either makes me lose control or I end up somewhere I did not intend, any pro tips for gaining more control?
Try looking at your hands when u realize you are dreaming. For some reason it seems to make everything sharper and more real (although the effect is short-lived).
Practicing deep meditation helps a lot both with achieving lucidity, dreams recall and control over dream.
I bet that each time you become lucid you are really excited, so, don't be. When you become lucid the best course of action during your first experiences is doing nothing, just observing the dream scenery, looking at hands, maybe meditating within your dream (mantra meditation in lucid dream was really really dope). It gets easier after some time, so practice in lucid dreaming is the best protip for you.
I've had many lucid dreams (at some point in time I could either LD or AP each night) but then again I wasted these opportunities spectacularly, so I may not have the best knowledge on subject there is.
>I bet that each time you become lucid you are really excited
Yep, spot on. Although earlier, when I realized I was in a dream, my first thought was basically to not get too excited so I don't spiral out and lose it. Easier said than done, though I did stay in control longer than normal that time. Guess I'll just keep getting those little bits in and try to make them better each time.
You may want to plan in advance when you go to sleep what are you going to do when you lucid dream, and then just try to execute it calmly instead of deciding on a whim that you want to, for example, go flying over New York or sth.
I always have a general idea of what I want to do next time I'm lucid, but I'll try making a more specific one and think about it before I sleep. Thanks Indigo.
No problem Iron, I wish I could be more helpful, but for me the only thing that helped for sure was practice.
Also, as I mentioned, meditation is very important. If you manage to keep your awareness in deep meditation when you don't feel your body it is that much easier to keep it when you are dreaming.
Maybe try meditating before sleep.
So I think I've been doing deep breathing (and therefore meditation) wrong.
When I try deep breathing, belly breathing, etc and consciously focus on breath I get tingling sensations soon after, on my face and hands, and sometimes a headache as well.
I just learned that these sensations are because of hyperventilation, even worse I would chase these sensations when meditating because I thought that implied it was working and they would get so strong that I would feel them engulf me and roll around my face kinda like pressure, the tingling and pressure, but that was just extreme hyperventilation wasn't it?
As in too little CO2 in the blood, which might not necessarily make me pass out if I don't breath fast, I just breath deeply enough that theres more O2 than CO2 in the blood.
Anyways I just read up on hyperventilation and linked it to that sensation I get when meditating, is this a correct asumption? Or is there a difference between the kind of tingling sensation you get when hyperventilating compared to a similar sensation when deep in meditation or whatever like I experienced?
I'm just confused now and don't know where to proceed further, novice meditator here.
What are the metaphysical implications of Cannabis and what role does it play in the magicians toolbox?
You don't get hyperventilation by breathing deep, but by breathing fast and deep, so the question is - how fast was your breath? Was it as fast as your "normal" breathing? If so then it's possible it was hyperventilation and you were doing it wrong - the point of meditation is to relax your body and keep mind focused. As you keep your attention on your breath and move it away from your physical body you should observe your breath slowing.
There are some meditations that give you fixed intervals of exhalation and inhalation (for example in-breath on the count of 6, holding your breath on the count of 3 and exhaling on the count of 6).
I can't remember the exact numbers and there are different systems as I prefer just observing my breath and not doing it on the count so maybe do some research if you want to do it this way
>don't know where to proceed further
Just take it slowly qtpie and it'll be okay. If you want to read something about meditations then the book I recommend is Osho's Vigyan Bhairav Tantra - it's a two part book, describing 112 meditation techniques, you are supposed to work with it gradually - you try one meditation for a few days and if it works for you you keep practicing it for a few months, if it doesn't you move to another.
So, to sum up, if you breath deeply and fast you get hyperventilation (I found out on my own skin when I was little and was learning to meditate all by myself), if you breath deeply and slowly that's where it's at fam ;^)
>what role does it play in the magicians toolbox?
It's a crutch, like any drug. Don't become too attached. Didn't use it much for magical purposes (Also, didn't use it much. Period.) so I can't really answer your questions but I've heard it makes feeling and manipulating energy easier.
How to overcome the need for love and lust?
Semen contains energy/power/life/motivation that you're wasting.
Pic is a mandala.
What's the most effective relaxation ritual? The Golden Dawn offers one in that you let a golden ball of light rest at different points of your body, releasing tension. Since I believe that certain magicks are simply more than whether or not you believe in the outcome, I'm interested in knowing what would, functionally, be the best relaxation ritual (without the need of outside materials). However, I know that a lot of the shit pushed by the Golden Dawn is watered down and possibly disinfo.
My conjecture is that the color of the ball of light has a lot to do with it. Gold being the color associated with the Tipareth/Sol. Of all the nexuses, is this one the most relaxation-inducing? It's certainly the most balanced one.
I know with certainty that Mars (Geburah) is the least relaxing (so a red ball of light should effect you accordingly), and spending too much time in that sphere will make you a hot head.
So then, what about the alternatives?
My guesses for the most effective choices:
Blue ball of light – Jupiter (Chesed) – counterbalance of Mars (so it should be the most relaxing or at least sedative), benevolence, good government, abundance, cordiality. Probably the one to pick when you have too much energy and can't focus. Hell, even the color blue is said to have a sedative effect by normies (probably because it invokes the sphere of Jupiter).
Silver ball of light – Neptune (Chokmah) – Opposite of hard work and contracts (Saturn/Binah), spiritual, lethargy (could be good or bad), kindness. Also a portal deep into the subconscious mind. Probably the one to pick when you're stressed.
Both of these seem to have a component of calmness. However, both are on the pillar of beauty/mercy, so spending too much time there will make you unbalanced.
White ball of light – Uranus (Kether) – Rejuvenating energy. Insight provoking. At least this one is on the middle pillar. Probably the one to pick when you're tired but restless.
Well see the thing is from what I remember the last time I did that and had such strong sensations I was breathing deeply, but not fast, it was a kind of relaxed and prolonged inhalation followed by smooth and prolonged exhalation in a regular rythym.
Now I did some further research on these sensations and found this website that describes something called "bioenergetic breathing"
And the writer describes these sensations-
>Parasthesia simply means “altered sensation,” usually in the form of tingling that starts around the mouth, at the fingertips and in the toes. As it advances and spreads, it is usually accompanied by tetany — sustained but mild contraction of muscles. The hands and feet tend to “claw up,”
Which are what I experienced, the tetany being that feeling of pressure across my face I described in my post, likewise the "clawing" sensation. Furthermore the author is clear to distinguish these sensations and this style of breathing from actual hyperventilation and accompanying symptoms, though there is overlap on that front.
In this distinction, the author describes this tingling and tetany as the sensations of "qi".
>These symptoms are produced by an altered mind-body state, both physiological and psychological. The tetany is a consequence of some changes in blood chemistry. The tingling is the sensation of qi — when your hands are tingling fiercely with qi, it feels like you are holding balls of fire. It’s a very distinctive sensation, and a privilege to experience. I often explain to people that martial arts and yoga practitioners may study for their entire lives without knowing the sensation of qi, simply because they don’t breathe enough.
I'm not very knowledgeable on qi or energy work in general, so I don't know how much truth there is to these claims if any. I just want to know that if I do find myself doing deep breathing exercises, in steady rythym and sufficient depth of inhalation and exhalation that when these sensations of parasthesia come about they are there as a result of this "qi" or as a result of the meditation and not actually just hyperventilation or too much O2 and too little CO2 in the bloodstream as a result of breathing too deeply perhaps, even if the pace is normal.
For now though I'll attempt to meditate or do deep breathing exercises (if they aren't one and the same) with special attention paid to the rythym and speed of the breath so I dont find myself feeling any tingling nor any tetany that could be a result of hyperventilation.
Like I'll still try not to focus on anything but the sensations of the breath but I'll also try not to overdo it when it comes to the rythym, speed and depth of the breath and see how that changes anything in regards to the sensations of parasthesia.
2015 printing - though control
I'm having trouble remembering my thoughts on the first exercise, anyone have any tips to help?
When I feel on edge/tired I either let myself bathe in golden light ,as you already noted it's probably the most relaxing colour, or visualize myself lying on an infinite ocean of water, letting it carry me along the stream. To add water is the passive opposite of the active red fire so blue would certainly add to the effects of relaxing. You could also visualize the blue water absorbing your negative thoughts as worries visualized as red orbs being washed away and dissolved in the infinite ocean.
Has anyone here managed to put themselves into the state of "now"? I mean, for a few seconds at least, you lost the understanding of the concepts of the past and future?
I wish someone described to me how it feels like, so I'd know what I'm looking for. I've been trying for hundreds of hours and I just can't. Is this worth it to try some drugs to hopefully experience it?
If you managed to put yourself into some other special states of consciousness with meditation, please describe them too, and how did you think to achieve them.
Is there a way to do ayahuasca without vomiting?
how to get better harsh vocals with magick?
why did you guys delete the old question thread?
tell 'em you're doing self improvement/health. don't have to mention spirit/wizardry at all
>And I realized then that its not about where I meditate, but to actually get started with it, consistency and habit, and that at this point it doesnt matter if I try to meditate outside, or while walking or at home, its all difficult and takes great effort all the same.
Ramp it up slowly and/or go on a retreat [vipassana is free] or leave if possible.
1 year ago, I was unable to focus my eyes for even 1 full second because of video games and stuff. I realised the tension/discomfort was pent-up energy as well as weakness of muscle/will.
I didn't say it was a waste of time.
>Why do you even choose sides? There are no sides. In the end siding with some "official" religion will be detrimental to you. Walk your own path.
yes, because a lot of desire is compulsive, and meditation helps one act instead of react, meaning reduction of compulsive behavior.
I have little to no desire for sex aside from compulsion/conditioning. That said, there is enough of that.
>Thanks. I'd follow your advice, but i lost the will to live. I can't enjoy anything anymore… Spirituality is my last ditch effort, i am starting to contemplate suicide. Maybe im being melodramatic, but this is just the way i see it, i don't know.
I feel a lot of people have gone through that. Spirituality as an escape. It isn't an escape though; it's working and working until you realise god, maybe some resentment/depression along the way when you rise without love and self-love and feel like a puppet.
It's all you. You're able to make it all better, and able to call upon the love of the Divine to feel better.
Everything is a skill, including sustained enjoyment/hope.
Take it easy, don't burn out or you'll fall deep.
Meditate, find it from within/Divine, channel it out of the front of your heart and into the back however you imagine that happening.
Lust, just raise the energy to the heart or cycle it in the microcosmic orbit (through the front and back of the body/chakras, can store it in the belly/lower dantien).
hm… I would like to learn more about the colors/spheres, I think I'm ready to start using that soonish.
too much energy does produce that type of sensation.
I wondered once whether hyperventilation is actually a legit thing/unhealthy.
I'd just do it the way you say, taking it slow and steady and avoiding that until you feel comfortable being tingly.
I dunno. I can shut off my thoughts at which point I don't have much concept of anything.
Does that count?
It doesn't seem difficult for me but I've meditated a fair amount.
moved, not deleted. 750 posts is the limit.
So /fringe/, today I realized what it was that I felt when I first gave meditation a serious try despite knowing little about it, 5 or so years ago one day after school.
I just layed down on my bed and started breathihg deeply and in a few minutes or so I felt this incredible feeling overwhelm me, like a blissful and warm and overwhelming feeling, my head felt clear of thoughts it was so weird.
Naturally having never encountered this before and not knowing what it was I forced myself out of it, and almost regretted that immediately, and it took me a while before I was ready to try meditating again, I knew very little about it at that time, but I was never able to get that feeling of bliss and peacefulness back, no matter how many times I would meditate. And I eventually went through long period of not meditating, but I was never able to pin down exactly what it was I felt and how to feel it again.
Anyways today while reading some meditaiton article I finally found out what it was - Jhana.
>Jhanas are the blissfull altered states of mind one can enter during meditation. Jhana is also called ‘absorption’ or ‘ecstasy’. And that is exactly how it feels. During jhanas you are so completely absorbed into the object of meditation that all distinctions between the observer and the observed will cease to exist. It can give you great insight into reality and give a profound sense of bliss and joy.
This is without a doubt that sensation that I felt that day I tried meditating for the first time. So I'm asking now for advice on what do I do to reach this state again? I could never seem to be able to reach it after that one time, but that was when I was more inexperienced and lacking in knowledge and now that I finally know what its called and everything I wonder if it would not be easier now to attain Jhana again.
Will it just come naturally after I settle into the rythym of meditating again daily? A rythym I have not kept for almost 2 years now unfortunately, but I'm trying to ease into it again now.
Also this was the article I read if anyone wants to read it too, good advice for us novices and beginners https://bayart.org/2016/06/06/beginners-guide-to-meditation-for-everyone/
What is the will to live?
Is it the expectation of tommorow, the fears of what might happen or the expectations that will come?
Is it the reflection of yesterday? The melodramy of what happened or the memories left unchanged?
It is the here and now, the series of learning, the lessons to come.
Is it advised to follow the teachings of Satanism? I have seen mixed views on the topic. I came upon this site and it at least intrigues me, but I don't want to go down a path where I'll end up losing myself or something similar.
Jhana arises when tension (in the mind and body) ceases. Think of meditation like an unbinding of tension. A complete letting go.
When you are completely content in the present moment and thus free from the 5 hindrances (they're a Buddhist thing, if you're not familiar with that) is when Jhana 'arises'.
Basically there's not much you can do, except for meditate - regularly and properly.
Good news is that it shouldn't take too long. Even if you're starting from scratch 'reaching' 1st Jhana can be worked up to with a couple of months, (a year at best) of dedicated practice - from my experience.
Is Jhana better than drugs and can you do astral projection and such when you are in it?
In my honest opinion, I'd more then just simply advise you to follow the teachings of Spiritual Satanism. I'd urge you to do so. Have you also read the other pages, like the origins of Satanism? And the meaning behind the name Satan (Satanama)? And the myriad of other pages, such as how Christianity has gave its own corrupted twist on the definition of Satanism, etc.
The core of Satanism is about attaining Godhood; ascension and self empowerment. There are no strings attached, you'll only get tons of benefits. If you're from Aryan descent, the composition of your genetics and soul have their root in Satanism. We are direct descendants from this very race of Nordic extraterrestrials. Hitler himself and major occult proponents of The Third Reich are also Satanists, and many other iconic people of Aryan descent throughout our known history as well.
Unfortunately, Satanism has got a bad rep because of all the slanderous lies that have been spread that continues to this day, literal entire religions are devoted against it and denounce Satanism and its practices as the prime, ultimate form of evil. I'm not sure how redpilled you are, but it doesn't take much to connect the dots if you know the parties that are behind this.
Pics related, it's a reasonably well known fact that Voltaire was a Satanist.
The founding fathers were as well. And so were many others.
>Is Jhana better than drugs
Pretty much. Not only is there the bliss, equanimity, all that jazz when you're in Jhana; after you come out of Jhana there is a sort of 'afterglow'. Your mind feels vibrant and clear; it's extremely easy to focus and things, etc.
It's like the positive aspects of a bunch of drugs combined, without any of the negative stuff - plus it's always available.
>can you do astral projection and such when you are in it
Traditionally, being able to project a 'mind-made body' and other supranormal abilities are a fruit of Jhana.
However, you don't really need Jhana to be able to astral project, although if you're able to 'get' Jhana you pretty much have the relaxation and focus skills to also AP.
So, yes I guess.
makes sense, though, as a big fan of metal I wonder why they haven't started censoring it, since the majority of the lyrics of extreme metal deal with worshipping satan
I have heard about people who met spirit guides and other entities when they were in deep meditation.
Any guesses as to why a golden light is the most relaxing? To me, it represents warmth and security. Probably not the best thing when you've got too much energy. Then again, I guess you could work with elemental earth if that's the issue.
Thanks for the info anon, I'm going to try and reach the first Jhana again, after so many years.
I think I read something about that when I was just browsing wikipedia, I think I also recall one of those hindrances being Mara, the demon/personification of lust and desire that represents the kind of thoughts I had when trying meditation before, you can't focus on meditating because all you can think about is how much of a waste of time it is, you wont do it right and your better off looking at porn and for a while there I would give in to these thoughts and a dangerous habit arose by association- every time I would try or think about meditating I would be reminded of or start to feel the desire for watching porn instead and usually would give in to that hindrance, for several months, maybe a year now it plagued me, and hindered all of my spiritual progress.
I think it happened because after I somehow reached the first Jhana and felt so blissful and such a clear mind and even that afterglow you mentioned, despite forcing myself out of it out of irrational anxiety, I wanted to feel such bliss again but the short instant high you get from fapping turned out be easier to achieve than Jhana from meditating especially since back then I didnt know of Jhana and my entry into meditation was so abrupt in a way and without any guidance.
But the sensation of Jhana is much more pure and blissful and lasts for much longer, I can still remember it after like 4 or 5 years. And you dont feel like shit afterwards like I usually do when after fapping. But I was never able to reach it again and got demotivated and a self-destructive porn addiction slowly took over for years instead.
>although if you're able to 'get' Jhana you pretty much have the relaxation and focus skills to also AP.
That's good to know, part of why I'm also doing meditation is for OBE/AP/LD purposes as well, to build a strong foundation on which to carry out these attempts better.
I just hope I don't force myself out of it out of irrational anxiety and fear if I do achieve Jhana again, or feel an OBE happening. I've done this before when a WILD was spontenously forming around me, and I forced myself out of it, always regret doing so only after the fact.
Is anyone else prone to doing that? Forcing yourself out of these sudden sensations or out of a dream forming around you because it gets too intense and you panic, but regret it almost immediately afterwards? I gotta stop doing that.
I get that too. More often than not, when trying to WILD, the dream begins to form around me and I begin to initiate reality checks but the dream isn't stable enough yet. I just wake up completely.
>I heard it from Bear Heart that invoking the energies of Luna will actually make you more sexually feminine. So if you're male, Bear Heart would recommend bringing the energies of Lunar instead.
Hmm, I shall have to try this and report back. It was my understanding that the Luna(r) energies where inherently yin in nature, and balancing it was the Sol (yang) is the goal.
>Also, do you know if "Elohim-Gibor," the god of the Martian sphere, is actually Jewish, or that's just the same commonly given to him (since it directly translates as God of Gibor).
I am unsure.
>I need to read more on planetary magick, so forgive my ignorance.
There is no need to ask for forgiveness.
A wise man can learn more from a foolish question than a fool can learn from a wise answer. - Bruce Lee
Also, it builds an archive for reference for others.
>I'm really interested in knowing more about the actual spirits of those realms.
You know… You can always just evoke them yourself and see.
>where can I read more about these orders of beings?
>I have a strong will to research the occult but i don't act on it because it doesn't really appear that often, it appears when i see some schoolgirl post something inspirational on her facebook wall for example, then the thought comes oh look at her acting all smart im just gonna plow through the whole fringe curriculum and i'll show everyone what a badass i am.
That is ego compelling you, that is why it waxes and wanes. Ego will not carry you into infinity. At best ego will take you to the 6th density.
When a man no longer has to work but he still exercises intensely to keep his body in good shape, when he no longer has to study but he seeks out higher knowledge of his own accord, when he overcomes his pathetic vices and addictions, and he sees through deceptions and practices the will to power then he will be ready. If we lose momentum, grow too complacent, turn away from our higher callings - then we will just be exterminated and our souls recycled. - Anon
>Anything I can do to help with my insomnia?
If you desire to remove it (and sleep normally) I would meditate "why do I have this experience?" If you would desire to remove the need to sleep, I would do lots of energy work like >>>/fringe/289
You can also experiment with alternative sleeping/resting styles, polyphasic, biphasic, etc. Just note, that you do not actually need to be unconscious ("sleeping") to rest and restore yourself.
>Admin can you check IP of anon?
I honestly should not even be entertaining this, but for transparency's sake, no it's not, not even close.
There are many different anons posting that you have accused of being Protagonist who are not, and are not proxies either. You're paranoid man, assuming every one who voices an opinion not praising you is Protagonist (or before it was Omran).
Anicca. Patience. While I do agree with y'all, I am not compelled to wallow in lower emotions to the point that I would complain about it.
>So what's the steps to be a Wizard?
Step 1 Breath
Step 2 Bring your attention to your breath
Step 3 Return your attention to your breath (it will most probably wander until you properly master it)
Step 4 Sense the energy that flows in/out and around your body
Step 5 Will/Intent/Manipulate this energy
Step 6 Free your mind of preconceived notions and conceptual limitations Anything is literally possible
Step 7 ???
Step 8 Profit
>A /fringe/ without me is like various other movements that got hijacked and lost its essence.
I will give you props for originally helping jump start /fringe/ on freedomboard, but tbh, even before the move to 8chan your presence was starting to lack in constructivity.
>Are you even redpilled on monarchies?
Such a system is only necessary for an unenlightened society, why would we, as awakened folk, ever aspire to build a mundane system?
>does IIH talk about the astrals senses
>I'm not the guy you think I am I just want you to stop sperging
He's a different anon, but one nonetheless tired of the drama.
>I was just talking to someone yesterday about how nice it is that there is a chan relevant to my interests that isn't non stop shit posting
It will quiet down.
>am I making a fool out of myself for asking smiley to calm down?
>Are you being paranoid and thinking everyone posting here is one specific person?
>Most of us came here to get away from this 8ch style shitposting nonsense
Agreed, me too.
>I hope something is done about it and this place doesn't turn just as cancer.
>>>/loosh/ is for shitposting, the other boards shall remain (as) pure (as possible)
>Not going to keep playing this game and shitting up this thread.
>you know I always hear about bad entities and the shit they do but no one talks about good entities.
STO entities can be really helpful, but due to the respect of freewill, don't intrude into your reality unless you call upon them. For that reason STS are far more prevalent in most mundane and neophyte's lives (as they didn't (usually) ask to be targeted).
>So whats the deal have they moved on to higher plains or are they just floating in the background doing something subtly so not to gather attention.
STO respects choice, they would not do something to possibly violate one's chance to make a choice. STS on the other hand does not care about you, only themselves.
>Is it possible to enchant personal items like a necklace or a pendant?
Of course. By subjecting it to an energy field it will start to cohere it's own field/consciousness based upon what was impressed upon it (even if it was subconscious, like a favored pocket watch, lucky charm, etc.).
>I humbly ask if someone could explain it to me in detail.
The aware way of doing it is gathering energy, imbueing it with intention, then impressing it into a physical object. Some are more receptive than others, for this reason crystals, water, resins, etc. are often used but anything can be used.
How you go about collecting the energy can be very simple (repeated creation of psiballs with a desire surrounding the object) to highly complex and or ritualistic (cerimonal high magic).
>Are there any books concerning planetary magick that include the often forgotten spheres of Uranus, Pluto, and Neptune?
I to am interested in this too.
O, Thoth deliver me this wisdom. Thank you.
>What do wizards who use planetary magic do most of the time, use the old 7 planets system or do you/they use the new planets aswell?
I do some planetary magic but it is not "most of the time" just some. I don't really exclusivly use the 7 sphere's system as there are other heavenly bodies I interact with, not all I know the names of. Sometimes a certain star/planet/heavenly sphere just calls to me so I include it.
>I suppose in the end it's about how one thinks and there's no better, isn't it?
I would say it's about what is most effective.
>Thoughts on these pages?
>Masonic misinfo or..?
I evoked Enki awhile back to see if he actually was this benelevent being of light or not, because everything I read said he was, but also everything required pledging one's soul to him as well… That seemed suspicious to me. So I evoked him for some answers, I didn't like the vib I got, he was short with me because I was not tributing him energy, repeatedly asking what I would give in exchange, when all I desired to know was some details of his being , a normal conversation, not a yaht or million bucks or anything big but I couldn't even get a straight answer.
>Enki's symbol is the Caduceus
I really got the idea he was was STS because other STOs I've communicated with acted nothing like that at all, they where very willing to help and indeed did pretty much instantly.
I will further comment on the devil archetype. There are numerious nature gods (such as Pan, Cernunnos, the Greenman, etc.) that got rolled into the Christian concept of the "devil".
Furthermore, despite my reservations on Enki, this is a very good write up on what's wrong with the God of the Bible/Abraham
>I have long hair; would cutting it all the way short be detrimental spiritually?
I would not advise it at all. I just wear it back in a pony tail most of the time, but especially when it's warm.
>The summer is coming, so yeah, it would be alot easier with shorter hair.
It can take years to grow your hair to it's proper length, don't be short sighted.
>how does ceremonial magic work?
When some one does a work the way-pattern they used to create said change is energized, when repeated it is strengthened, over time and with workings by others it can become an efficient path to achieve said goal.
The catch? You can't change it. This is why I don't really do that, I feel it's better to always be perfecting my workings (and thus self) rather than doing the same thing for a lifetime. The former seems more stagnation proof.
>How do i make my own rituals?
Easy. Do something, anything, then do the same again & again. Bonus points for making as many aspects of it the same each time (same day, time, astrological circumstances, etc.)
It can be anything, reciting a little poem with intention or showering while consciously clearing yourself. Of course it can be very intricate as well, but there is no hard requirements
Sorry, I'm not big on meanings of colours but my guess would be is because it's associated with our higher self/God spark/whatever and we feel safe in its embrace.
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>the majority of the lyrics of extreme metal deal with worshipping satan
How many of them have any real spiritual message, and how many are just being edgy for the sake of edginess? Censoring black metal lyrics (censoring any lyrics for this matter) would make no sense - people who are against common religious paradigm can blow off steam without making any real change by listening to certain music genres and taking part in certain subcultures.
Dso are retarded lavyean satanists though
ugh fuck don't remind me of that album, what an overrated piece of shit, 3/10 at best
You dont seem to be forcing yourself out of it though, deliberately out of fear however.
Thats my problem, I have a tendency to do that.
Can you imagine the hilarity, to train and practice for hours or days on end to achieve something like a WILD or an OBE or Jhana only to then force yourself out of it when you actually start to enter one of these states because the intensity and the rush and sensations are too much and you cant handle it, but regret forcing yourself out of it almost immediately after doing so.
Since we're on the topic of Jhanas anyway, I'd recommend 'Mindfulness, Bliss, and Beyond' by Ajahn Brahm.
He's a Buddhist monk from the Theravada Thai Forest Tradition with a huge boner for Jhana. MBB is in my opinion one of the better books on Jhana. He talks about how to get into Jhana, how to 'traverse' Jhanas, and how to use them to end suffering. Good shit.
Anybody who is interested in Jhana should also google around a bit. There's a lot of good info on forums and what not - Dharmaoverground for example.
That aside, 'forcing' yourself out of Jhana is not unheard of. If anything it's quite common; people get excited and bail. It's kind of like having sex for the first time, where you end up jizzing in 2 seconds. After a couple of times it's not as 'scary' and you'll just ease into it.
Contrary to popular belief, spiritual Satanism is not about worshiping anything. Neither Satank/ENKI or any his Demons demand or require worship. The opposite is true in fact. They wish for you to abstain from worshiping any being. Worship is an unhealthy STS practice. Most modern blatant examples of worship is found in enormous quantities in the trilogy of Abrahamic religions. YHWH bathes in the loosh granted to him by all the prayer and copious amount of sacrifice done under his name. Satan is the polar opposite.
>as a big fan of metal I wonder why they haven't started censoring it
It depends on what is in the lyrics. Do most lyrics take the Christian depiction of Satan as their basis? Because if so, doing that only worsens the image of Satan in public mind and eye. It amplifies all the vile, false rhetoric and lies. This benefits those who oppose Satanism, of course. I'm not familiar with metal myself.
>>1608 made good points as well, though if the lyrics further extrapolate upon an untruthful depiction of Satan, this quite literally worsens the situation immensely on a global scale. After all, the lyrics work as affirmations, the more people listening to it, the more effect it has on The All.
isn't spiritual satanism just buddhism?
Cool, thanks anon I'm going to read up on Jhanas more now, I'm so glad I finally have an understanding of what they are, and what they're called, it makes me feel like I was on the right track a few years ago now I just need to get back to it.
I think I'm gonna try also to get used to intense sensations like Jhana and stop forcing myself out of them no matter how many tries it takes, so that when it comes to OBE or Lucid dream attempts, I might be better prepared for what sensations come with them (like feeling light and almost floaty like I felt once when meditating a few months ago).
As I read through Satanism, I see that I'm required to make a blood pact with him. As far as I know those are dangerous, and red flags are popping up, but I can't help feel drawn towards this.
From what I know from the most popular branches of Buddhism; no, its not similar. From what I understand, popular/modern/mainstream Buddhism is about reaching 'Nirvana' by completely dissolving the ego, abolishing a wide array/spectrum of emotions, prohibiting attachment to things and other beings, not having most if any thought at all, silencing and killing of passions and desires, and some more backward principles.
If anyone feels that the path to enlightenment is absolute self mutilation, to the point where you stop existing because that seems to be the goal here, you ought to reanalyze what you're doing and the other spiritual paths that are laid out. Unless petrifying yourself is your thing, of course.
No, Satanism is not like Buddhism from my understanding. If so, there would be no need to (re-)introduce Satanism.
Satanism is not about abolishing your identity, stripping yourself of emotions, killing off desires or passion, or becoming a passive stone statue, an empty husk.
The blood pact is mostly a formality. You can undo your oath to Satanism, Satan would not prevent you from doing this. This is stated explicitly. Satanism places a great deal of value in personal choice and freedom. Satanism is not about milking you dry or stripping you of your rights. Its not about using you as a battery for energy. The blood pact is a sign of trust, an allegiance between you, Satan, his Demons, and all other Satanists. Blood pacts like these were common in times long ago, especially in the (secret) pagan lodges, circles and societies.
There's no need to rush it, or do it all. Get familiar with the material, use what you can, communicate with the Demons if you are able to, ask and investigate. Then again, there's no real loss, as you can undo it if you decide its not your thing. Satan will not interfere if you wish to distance yourself from him and Satanism on a whole.
>but I can't help feel drawn towards this.
If the material resonates strongly with you, chances are you were a Satanist your former life/lives. This is especially true if you feel strongly drawn towards Satanism and the information it presents. So I'd estimate that the chance that you were as fairly significant. Before the inquisition of the church, the massacre and mass genocide of the Gentile Pagan populace, the majority (if not all) of the Pagans were Satanic. We're talking millions of people here. Its not that much of a stretch that you were one of them.
>From what I understand
You understand incorrectly.
>If anyone feels that the path to enlightenment is absolute self mutilation, to the point where you stop existing because that seems to be the goal here
Buddha argued explicitly against these things.
You ought to educate yourself before you start spreading bullshit with your less than Wikipedia-tier level knowledge.
The main practice of spiritual satanism is meditation too right? Why even associate it with satanic entities if it's just meditation used for your own advancement?
>You understand incorrectly.
Buddhism seems to be incredibly broad with many different branches, thus I could only answer the question that was posed from my own perspective. And that I tried to do from a common one. I'm a Satanist, not a Buddhist.
>your less than Wikipedia-tier level knowledge.
I didn't look this up on Wikipedia before, but shall we?
>Nirvana (Sanskrit, also nirvāṇa; Pali: nibbana, nibbāna ) is the earliest and most common term used to describe the goal of the Buddhist path. The literal meaning is "blowing out" or "quenching. It is the ultimate spiritual goal in Buddhism and marks the soteriological release from rebirths in saṃsāra.
>Within the Buddhist tradition, this term has commonly been interpreted as the extinction of the "three fires", or "three poisons", passion, (raga), aversion (dvesha)' and ignorance (moha or avidyā). When these fires are extinguished, release from the cycle of rebirth (saṃsāra) is attained.
Is this not what I talked about? The stripping of emotions?
More on that 'passion' (raga) and 'aversion' (dvesha) [source: their respective wikipedia pages]
>Raga (Sanskrit, also rāga; Pali lobha; Tibetan: 'dod chags) is a Buddhist concept of character affliction or poison referring to any form of "greed, sensuality, lust, desire" or "attachment to a sensory object".
>It includes any form of desire including sexual desire and sensual passion, as well as attachments to, excitement over and pleasure derived from objects of the senses.
>Dvesha (Sanskrit, also dveṣa; Pali: dosa; Tibetan: zhe sdang) - is a Buddhist term that is translated as "hate, aversion".
>Nirvana has also been deemed in Buddhism to be identical with anatta (non-self) and sunyata (emptiness) states. In time, with the development of Buddhist doctrine, other interpretations were given, such as the absence of the weaving (vana) of activity of the mind, the elimination of desire, and escape from the woods, cq. the five skandhas or aggregates.
>Buddhist scholastic tradition identifies two types of nirvana: sopadhishesa-nirvana (nirvana with a remainder), and pari-nirvana or anupadhishesa-nirvana (nirvana without remainder, or final nirvana).
>Nirvana is also described in Buddhist texts as identical to anatta (anatman, non-self, lack of any self). Anatta means there is no abiding self or soul in any being or a permanent essence in any thing. This interpretation asserts that all reality is of dependent origination and a worldly construction of each human mind, therefore ultimately a delusion or ignorance. In Buddhist thought, this must be overcome, states Martin Southwold, through "the realization of anatta, which is nirvana".
>Nirvana in some Buddhist traditions is described as the realization of sunyata (emptiness or nothingness). Madhyamika Buddhist texts call this as the middle point of all dualities (Middle Way), where all subject-object discrimination and polarities disappear, there is no conventional reality, and the only ultimate reality of emptiness is all that remains.
I don't mean to shit on your beliefs, and I'm not saying Wikipedia is that accurate in its information, but I feel like what I said wasn't exactly bullshit, and certainly not 'sub-wikipedia tier'. Again, there's without a doubt many branches of Buddhism that I'm not aware of. I wouldn't be surprised if some esoteric branch is similar to Satanism.
>Buddha argued explicitly against these things.
I'd gladly hear more about this. Would you be able to link material to where he argued against what I outlined?
Read Joy of Satan and get your info from the source.
There are also other satanistic systems which can be considered spiritual, for example ONA. So if you want you might also check them out.
>enlightenment is absolute self mutilation
You were wrong there. Buddha, before liberation was living in all the pleasures of this world, then he became a hardcore ascetic and then he proposed that true understanding can only be achieved by following neither - the so called Middle Way.
I'm not an expert on Buddhism, but from what I know Spiritual Satanism =/= Buddhism, nevertheless your explanation of what Buddhism is seems a bit off.
Also, every magical system includes meditations and this doesn't invalidate the diversity of approach in those systems.
>Is this not what I talked about? The stripping of emotions?
No. I don't know what kind of backwards ass mental gymnastics you're going through where you take the extinction of the three poisons to equate 'becoming an emotional, empty stone husk'. Pursuing the 'holy life', as they call it, is a path of joy. A joy away from sensual pleasures. That's were Jhana comes in.
If you think what you just linked in somehow in accordance with your conception with Buddhism, I'm afraid your comprehension abilities aren't up too snuff.
You're misunderstanding terms and concepts.
>I don't mean to shit on your beliefs
I'm not a Buddhist. Shit away.
>I'd gladly hear more about this.
Again, here comes that lack of even a basic amount of knowledge. The concept of 'Middle Path' is a pretty basic and well know core tenant of Buddhism.
>to the point where you stop existing because that seems to be the goal here
are also dead wrong. Buddha explicitly argues against annihilationism.
All these extremely common misconceptions are easily cleared up when one reads a good introductory text like 'What the Buddha taught' by Walpola Rahula.
Do you know any western monks who teach the more rare meditations such as kasina, asubha or the recollections?
All I can think of, of the top of my head, is the Pa-Auk Sayadaw- lineage. They teach kasina practice, 32 parts of the body meditation, metta, the whole she-bang.
I don't know of any specific western teachers of the top of my head, though.
Theistic Satanism is a meme anyway.
It has 0 historical basis.
'Theistic/spiritual satanism' was literally made up by a bunch of dudes in the 60's.
'Actual satan worshippers' is therefore a meaningless term. It's all just make believe for edgy emo kids.
most everything talked about on here was just made up by some dudes at some point. most of the shit on here is based on 'theosophy' and 'occultism' which are pretty recent as far as i know, like 19th/20th century
There are systems which are ancient. For example one of the tantras I value the most comes from the 10th century, but there are other, far older.
Many teachings are universal and can be found throughout time and space in different cultures. Some of the first magicians were shamans, and shamanism is as old as human civilization itself.
Theosophy is full of disinfo, at least when it comes to the transmission of Eastern occult knowledge to the West.
So you are completely and utterly wrong, occultism isn't a recent development.
>I've heard before that longer hair makes you more sensitive to your environment.
I do agree.
>I am interested in knowing whether covering head with cap or beanie has any significant effect, especially in regards to protection from certain influences or energies.
I have not personally done this, but I was talking to a Sikh about hair and it wandered off into turbans and he said it helps him with psychic protection (though I'm not sure if it was because of enchantments or the actual physical item).
>How do i push thoughts away as described in Book Of Knowledge?
Energy goes where attention flows. By focusing your awareness upon something else you are pulled into that state of being, ergo all else that is not in harmony with that is moved away.
>Like my thought process is oh wait im thinking, lets push this thought away - which already is a thought.
And in that awareness you can return your attention to what you desire to be, in this case stillness, or observation of a non verbal thing (breath, visualization, etc.).
>I think that you actually don't have to do anything - thoughts go away and dissapear on their own
This can be the case, and through extended stillness one becomes more adept at realizing and returning to that state of being.
>but there's a paradox - as soon as you try doing nothing you've already did something.
In actuality you are not trying to do nothing, you are trying to be present and that is not a thought but an awareness of what currently is.
Eloberates well on the subject of being in the Eternal Now.
>Thoughts on this channel?
I listened to a few of the videos, he seems to know his stuff and his voice reminds me of Manly P. Hall. Overall seems like a good reference.
>so is the middle pillar ritual bad because of some jewish entities?
I'm not totally qualified to say as I have not done it, however my take on it, just from an application of metaphysical framework is that as long as you set down the limits and rules of your sacred space and the work you are preforming if they where STS and you set the boundaries to only allow STO I wouldn't worry about it.
>Is our moon an alien spaceship?
Possibly, I have not researched it enough to say with authority, however there are certainly a large number of 'coincidental' things about it… and then there is magic, in which is nothing but coincidence.
>If so, does that invalidate lunar themed magic?
I presume not, as it still exudes energy one can work with regardless so I think this point is moot.
>I've figured out that i am not my thoughts - it was an *aha!* sort of moment. I did feel a bit happier then but i don't enlightened. I don't feel joy, bliss and that kind of stuff.
Make to mistake about it – enlightenment is a destructive process. It has nothing to do with becoming better or being happier. Enlightenment is the crumbling away of untruth. It's seeing through the facade of pretense. It's the complete eradication of everything we imagined to be true. - Adyashanti
See also >>>/fringe/197
>Are there more like, levels to enlightenment?
You could say that. Now that said, often the rending of illusion also results in the rending of suffering produced by it, depending on how much illusion remains (not that one would be aware of that) will indicate how close one is to God/Perfection/Love.
>Did the hermetic teachings fall into the wrong hands?
They fall into what ever hands seek knowledge, there is no universal limiter to say what it is to be used for, of course it will be leveraged by both good and evil.
>Watching the symbolism of some events leads me to believe that the world elite is into this stuff to the neck but the state of the world today makes them look like they're incredibly evil, so what happened?
The Kali Yuga. The age we are in, the astrological energies interpermeating Earth has resulted in an increase in a general trend of unconsciousness, and now we're swinging into consciousness.
>Did the wrong families win the magic war?
Kek, it's just the wheel of time, in a thousand years it shall be good that reigns.
>How is it possible to gain back control of earth?
It shall happen by itself all in good time, however if you desire to accelerate the process, embody higher consciousness and (energetically) rub off/awaken others as well.
>We have a very long time to prepare for something.
We have the time of our lives (assuming non-immortality) to grow our spirits.
>The question is: WHAT ARE WE PREPARING FOR ACROSS ALL THESE GENERATIONS? WHAT ARE WE BUILDING WITH THESE MEMES? FOR WHAT PURPOSE?
Well the ultimate purpose of existence is to awaken to Godhead and while doing so, grow in a nonlinear way. But from a lesser perspective, to shape the world into a form appropriate for the present age, which allows for the former to be executed properly.
>SOMETHING WILL HAPPEN EVENTUALLY AND WE WILL HAVE TO BE PREPARED FOR IT.
Mass awakening, and beyond that, collective conscious evolution and sculpting of physicality until it becomes more aetherial than material.
>The only logical conclusion that I have is that our galaxy will collide with another galaxy and star wars will be literally represented.
Technically it is possible, but I rather doubt it, it does not seem as though it would be an environment very well suited to spiritual growth.
>What peace talks could ever be possible when planets collide and stars engage in melee combat?
>planets collide and stars engage in melee combat
This too would also probably not happen due to the role electric charges play in orbital mechanics.
>We WILL meet another conscious and intelligent species and when we meet when these galaxies collide what will happen? Will our cultures and immune systems be compatible at any level what so ever or will consciousness be wiped out forever?
Insufficient data for meaningful answer.
>if our galaxies collide and no one survives what then?
That won't happen, freewill must be preserved to allow for growth, divine intervention would happen before the very reason of creation was extinguished.
>What's the most effective way to manifest a gf into my life?
Align your flesh's actions & align your mind's intentions. You can do all the magical workings in the world but if your physical actions are not in alignment then you will be fighting yourself, and vice versa.
>My social circle is very limited and I don't see a worthwhile way to improve on that for the next 6 months.
Just allow for synchronicity to flow through your life, take the road less traveled, the scenic route, the long way, if you feel pulled to go to a place then do so. Just be open, you may be surprised what manifests.
Forbearance is knowing that every event has its proper time. This builds tolerance for difficult situations and patience for events whose time has not yet come. The doors of opportunity open when time is right. Having forbearance means aligning with the pulse of synchronicity; rather than choosing which doors to force open, you choose which open doors to walk through. This requires faith in letting things fall into place, and awareness of opportunities when they arrive.
Last but not least, as with all magic, believe you can, if you believe you can not you are just as right (as you shall manifest what you hold to be true).
>How to create a tulpa gf?
Just make a tulpa and when crafting it program/intend it to be a romantic mate. If you're inquiring into how exactly, basically form a mass of energy, name it, set out a list of traits, qualities, appearances, etc. it shall have as a guideline (some what optional), then pour loosh into it, talk to it, pet it, interact with, it will grow and evolve over time, becoming increasingly tangible and sensible as you put more energy into it.
Just be warned that if you do do this, after a time if you attempt to abandon it, self preservation mechanisms may result in you having to fight it to actually let go and move on. This may not be easy at all.
>What does this mean for bald people?
There seems to be 2 schools of esoteric use for hair, one is the (seemingly) more wide spread, and that is leave it, don't cut it, the other is to take it all off, as an exercise in sensory perception, so one must learn to master themselves even that much more to reach the same level.
I personally prefer the former.
>Thoughts on pic related?
Have not read, apologies. What little I do know is that the term Faustian bargain is derived from it, which means an agreement in which, despite getting what you desired, it was not in the way you desired it, and thusly leaves you unsatiated.
>How do I turn a tulpa who hates sex into one that loves sex?
You are their creator, their god, you can alter them however you please. It may not be easy, but with persistence you can impress your will and sculpt them as you desire.
>How do I accomplish this?
I would overwhelm her with your desire that she be/is X, eventually, as you are the source of her very existence, she shall conform.
>Do I send her into the planetary sphere of the moon?
That may help, though I can not speak to it's (in)effectiveness or not.
For those who read Franz Bardon and Joy of Satan: They say JoS stole from Bardon, but is this really the case? And what is superior/better? I don't like Bardon as a person at all…
So I was reading the meditative practices thread and all the suggested means of "getting more in tune" like paintbrushing and all that.
My question is, and I mean this in the most respectful and serious way possible, what is the difference between "improving your imaginative visualisation so that you can visualise with your developed minds eye metaphysical but fully real things like 'energy' and 'spirits'" and on the other hand… well… "withdrawing too deep into your own mind and consciously nurturing your own schizophrenic break with objective reality"?
Where does purely internal subjective mind-imagination end and external objective mind-sensing begin? The voices from the TV telling the hobo to shank the local mayor because he is the lizard-toad king of the gangster computer god are all real within his own realm but not real anywhere else. If all the practices are willing yourself to see and hear something then it kind of begs the question if that isn't all it does? Willing yourself to see and hear things that purely your own mind concocts?
And if so, that begs the most dangerous question of all. If it is all internal, then the entire field is just shared rewiring of the brain and a shared tripping-out session.
Swapping techniques for coaxing the mind to feel certain things or go on certain trips, all subjective, all imaginative, all non-real. Modding in video games into the mindOS.
I realise that comes off as pointed but I'm really not trying to poke holes in anything simply to poke holes, nor trying to be a jerk. This is just something that has troubled me in general with all of this stuff and the methods put out there for developing it. If I have nothing to worry about then there surely will be a good answer that I am ignorant to (which I fully accept there may be).
I'm very interested in all this, minds across the millennia probably wouldn't just waste their time writing tomes and logging experiences. But it's just as possible their desire for knowledge followed a subjective dead-end path and they were intellectually chasing their own mind-tails.
How did people like Franz Bardon obtain all that knowledge?
same thing has been bugging me for a while
Well yeah, we all could be a bunch of lunatics with self induced schizophrenia. But then again - if you are controlling your own mind this at least states that you are not the mind. You are the awareness of the thoughts of your mind, right?
You'll have to prove it to yourself, no amount of reading of outside experiences will convince you, ultimately. Do consistent meditation in combination with certain exercises and practices to affect 'objective' reality. Create sigils and imbue them with intent, create thought forms to affect others or manifest (material?) things, and once you pass a certain treshold in terms of energy work, pick up telekinesis. There's plenty of ways to prove yourself that this isn't just schizophrenic self-fuckery (schizophrenia is by the way a meaningless term). Suspend your disbelief and dive head-in, start affecting 'objective' reality.
I haven't personally read any of his material, but from what I know Franz Bardon most got most of his knowledge from Satanic/nazi occult lodges, then ran off and started publicizing what he knew. I've read of multiple warnings that Bardon might've been 'guided' by malevolent extraterrestrials and that his work contains touches of Christianized influence.
>baiting this hard.
Not going to bite.
>Why even associate it with satanic entities if it's just meditation used for your own advancement?
From that perspective, why even associate with forums like these if you're just after meditation for self advancement. Associating with Satanic entities is no different then associating with entities like us, with one key difference. If you're a dedicated Satanist, these beings are directly working for you benefit. You should see them as direct family. You could even classify me as a Satanic entity. Either way, there are numerous benefits of working with Demons. You can call upon them for help, guidance, or other requests, and as you advance, you'll also get a guardian Demon assigned, one that will watch over you. Reuniting with your creator Gods, who's aim it is to liberate you and the rest of our species is only beneficial.
You know, i was gonna give the same advice for my self, just do something that affects if only a slight part of objective reality. But then, i wondered - does objective reality exist outside our minds?
Let me rephrase - the physical world is made out of energy (waves) which our brain interprets through the five senses.Thus we have reality. How do i know if reality isn't just in my mind?
>does objective reality exist outside our minds
From the Hermetic Principle of Mentalism that All is Mind – no, and even from the fact that we only have our own conscious experience of reality, objectivity isn't as its praised to be in contemporary science and society. But we have to to draw a line somewhere for communication' sake.
>How do i know if reality isn't just in my mind?
That's the catch, there's no way as far as I'm concerned, as everything is measured and experienced through consciousness. There's no way to 'take a peek outside' to determine the existence of something independent outside your subjective experience. Though personally I feel like staring to deep in this effect/concept will bear not many fruits.
"Yes, everything is subjective and derives from mental experience. Now lets move on." is the attitude I take myself.
because a ton of people share your exact reality, so it's the most objective
What's a good jumping off point for alchemy?
Any specific books that do a good job of covering the basics?
those suns look so retarded lmao
Yeah you're right, there's really no other reality we will ever know except the one that's derived from our own experience.
What do we need to do though in order to affect reality the way we affect our dreams? Dreams are in our mind only, the Universe i believe is a dream dreamed by the All, or God if you prefer. Not literally, but i guess it's an analogy.
Thank you very much. ^_^
So do you follow the teachings of JOS or something else?
You're more then welcome! I'd gladly answer more questions.
Yes, all the posts I've written are from the perspective of the JoS.
>not going to bite
You're not going to bite, because it's 100% undeniably true.
The 'Joy of Satan' memery is particularly pathetic in that regard in that it claims stuff that's so historically retarded and ignorant it's not even funny.
i meant 'occultism' as far as it called itself such
And why do such artificial divisions matter?
Define "occultism", because I don't have a very clear idea what you mean by the term.
>Does anyone have any recommendations on improving discipline?
Use it. Exercise your will, force yourself to do something, even if it's just a gentle yet persistent nudge, every application will help build it up.
>I always find myself thinking or looking at things that I know I shouldn't, and then I end up hating myself for it, and the cycle just repeats.
You can acknowledge that you desire not be be X, but try not to hate yourself for it.
>And what's worse is when I reach a point occasionally once a week where I have read all my dozens of useless tabs from 4chan/other sites and I have played as much vidya as I wanted to play, and I have recently fapped so have no desire to and I don't know what movie/anime/show to watch and I just sit there not knowing what to do with myself - and that would be the perfect time to try to meditate or read up on my fringe stuff/lucid dream/OBE pdf's but I get an overwhelming feeling like I can't, like I can't focus on that and so I put it off until later which obviously never comes.
Ejaculating consumes a lot of loosh, I've found it quite hard to push myself to read, meditate, work out, etc. or otherwise focus on anything that productive if I have spilled my seed recently.
>This sort of mental block towards going any further with my spirituality/meditation attempts, it's never been this bad before even when I just started meditating, but now its persistent and I feel mundane as fuck, the more months go by without even a single day of meditation and just chasing distraction the worse I feel physically and mentally, anxiety rises, stress rises, and these are all indications that I absolutely have to start meditating again but because its been so long since I did and since then I have this whole mental block about doing so I can't seem to get into it like I did before, even when I do manage once a month to try to meditate it feels forced or unnatural or whatever and more often I end up falling asleep, and then distracting myself with the things mentioned above for days more, chasing distraction after distraction, never feeling like its the right time to focus on spiritual studies/meditation and when I do find myself free of distraction I just feel like I can't do it.
Even if it's small, and feels forced or "unnatural" meditate, because the bottom line is, you are changing your nature, you are, by force of will, altering the very definition of your being.
>I'm in a total rut for over a year now /fringe/, where's the reset button?
Being a hermit may help. Like going off into the mountains for several weeks or months, without distractions of any kind, away from the psychic pollution of other people. If you can not do this I would suggest setting up wards around your room and start actively (re)programming the psychic atmosphere.
As within, so without. Alter how you treat yourself, groom yourself (brush your hair, clean yourself, etc.), dress yourself, tidy up your room, remove physical clutter, vacuum the floors, wash the walls, literally clean out the cobwebs/dust, organize your living space & HDDs.
>What happens to tulpas once you die?
Unless they find another source of energy they will dissipate. In theory they could turn into psychic vampires to sustain themselves. But they need energy some how, when you die your soul will do the same, as the flesh is no longer there to cohere it /feedback loop your energy through to maintain it.
If you could, by will alone, do that, then you would be an ascended being, and could maintain a tulpa after the release of the physical form.
>So, will my attention be insufficient to keep her alive once I've passed on into the astral?
That depends on your level of spiritual awareness at the time.
>Are tulpas part of your soul, or something?
Kinda, I went into this >>>/ask/1302
>I can feel the emotions and discomfort of my tulpa, but I can't feel emotions from foreign spirits that are channeled.
Your tulpa is much closer to you than another spirit would be, and if the spirit was a native of a higher density of existence, then they would posses great mastery over what sort of information they sent to you.
>Am I correct in thinking that the black heart chakra was the cause of my ailments and possibly what stooped me from negating sleep and being fatigued?
The darkness you saw/felt was stagnation, energy that was not flowing properly and was causing problems. And, yes, most likly resulted in those problems.
>pic is the colors i was using.
>Are there better ones?
For the normal chakras, they seem to work the best out of the one's I've tried. Gold or white also works well, but is more of a universal color than a specific chakra one.
>Can some one tell me what these colors do so I don't have to crash test each one?
The colors preside over the energies of the appropriate chakra, to see what that is look into what each types of energies each chakra governs. BoK has a pretty good over all description, see also things like >>>/library/154 ; >>>/library/156 ; >>>/library/162 & >>>/library/167
>or are there effects depended on the individuals perception on what the color represents and dose?
That has not been my experience.
>what are some meditations or rituals I can do to pass my exams well?
I would recommend the eidetic memory guide >>>/library/189 and otherwise using associative memory techniques such as a mind palace. You can also work with gods of knowledge/wisdom, like Thoth, Athena, etc.
>i think my friend may be possesed by an entity. he has a history of drug abuse and clinic time.
Drugs, especially when abused often lead to holes in the aura, which make people more susceptible to attack.
>any recommendations what to do if i want to help him regain free-will and control of his body and mind?
Depending on the level of entrenchment of the entity it may be as simple as working light through his body to remove blockages and heal his flesh and soul, or it may be nearer to a ritual exorcism.
>i already thaught him some chants about mother nature, she is a thing he loves.
Those would probably be a good start. Just be aware that it may not be an easy task, and to a mundane, it may appear as though you are hurting him, which could result in interference.
>Evocation/Invocation guides without ceremonial nonsense, please?
>How do I achieve Christ Consciousness ; Krishna Consciousness ; Buddah-Nature
See >>>/library/146 (book 1)
>And how can I get there from a complete degenerate perspective?
You may not be able to, though that's not to say you can't learn anything, it will just take *much* longer, lifetimes longer.
>what is the tree of life i know of it/roughly know what it is but i don't really fully understand
It's a conceptual map of the energy system of the soul.
>What are your opinions on Sikhism?
Satnam is quite a powerful word/mantra, I like it. Otherwise, not much knowledge thereof.
>What are your individual thoughts on the faith?
Insufficient data for meaningful answer.
>I'm currently struggling to choose between it, and Christianity, but see myself more on the Christian side.
I am not a singular any one thing, I am a harmonious mix of multitudes of different and systems, at the focal point of truth. I think limiting oneself to a single system is undesirable.
>(Also, what's up with the auto nametags? I got philosopher, is this some sort of question mark detecting script?)
Instead of Anonymous, on /fringe/ it's Seeker, on /library/ it's Librarian, on /arcane/ it's Revo/loosh/ionary, it is just a little bit of variety.
>Yo, I'm an artfag and I was wondering how I could incorporate occult shenanigans into drawing.
Draw with both left and right hands, learn the body & soul intelligence in each side and how the differ. Learn which one to wield and when. Let art flow through you without so much conscious direction. Imbue intention, emotion, energy into your art.
Check out the work of Paul Laffoley >>>/fringe/3328 he did interactive esoteric art. Quite interesting stuff.
>1) Why should I /nofap/?
Because it is a monumental waste of energy, a literal sacrifice of divinity at the alter of ephemeral pleasure.
>2) What does OP pic mean?
It is a representation of the cosmos, macro and micro. It is a mandala, a piece of Tibetan art, intricately laid down, then ritualistically destroyed, even it's very existence mimics the totality of existence, not just in the visual from the "completion" of it's assembly, but it's life and death, from start to finish.
>Is it normal for my desire to masturbate to lessen after I meditate?
Sometimes that desire is the result of the energy not being utilized, which in meditation you are doing just that. Sometimes one may try to meditate and a succubus will try to bring forth that desire so you don't meditate. It just depends.
Buddhism preaches that humans have no soul, no Atman. Therefore; that you don't actually exist as a soul-consciousness. What you perceive as yourself is just an illusion. That humans are just a recycling of the five elements and nothing more else. When a person comes to realize and believe this deeply and subconsciously - it causes a psychic wave that releases the power of the elements from the soul, causing the complete dissolution of existence upon your death. This is the Buddhist meaning of "Enlightenment."
"Nirvana" in Buddhism means - literal - Extinction. Buddhist teachings state that to Exist is suffering and that Existence has an end. That end is Extinction. To obtain Nirvana is to literally cease to exist. Lights out forever.
Through Satanism we know that existence does not have to end, unless you yourself are trapped within samsara - following the anti-life teachings of Buddhism for example - and do not work towards the advancement of the soul. Reaching the Magnum Opus (immortality) is the only way to escape the Samsaric cycle. The soul will eventually wither away on it's own from a lack of vril or through constant bombardment with anti-life teachings and working towards "Nirvana".
>Nirvana" in Buddhism means - literal - Extinction. Buddhist teachings state that to Exist is suffering and that Existence has an end. That end is Extinction. To obtain Nirvana is to literally cease to exist. Lights out forever
Come on now bro. How retarded are you. Let me say it again:
BUDDHIST DOCTRINE ARGUES EXPLICITLY AGAINST ANNIHILATIONISM
You are misunderstanding fundamental concepts.
How is it possible for such vile, disgusting, terrible human beings like the rothschild family to exist?
The only Buddhist entity that makes any sense is Mara (who is ironically, a demon in Buddhism). Mara is of desire and fulfilments of material existence. Buddha preaches that humans should have no desires. As a result of this, the energy of the elements that forms the soul will dissipate upon your death, the psychic aspects of the elements will fizzle out on the Astral and you will cease to exist. Desire and Will is what holds people and souls together and gives them (and life) meaning.
Mara is of existence and life. Buddha is of death and annihilation. Buddhism exists only to bring annihilation, destruction, demoralization and death upon life. Buddha is actually an evil character that preaches hatred for all life and the main purposes of life, what makes life worth living. Buddha preaches an evil doctrine that is identical to the evil doctrine the fictional Nazarene preaches on the Mount. This has also been noted by scholars. There is absolutely nothing soulful or spiritual about Buddhism, its annihilationist nihilism.
A paradox to note, this is why having Buddha statues is heretical in Buddhism - the form of Buddha, that of Gautama, is actually Mara. In other words, it is an existing being, thus the realm of Mara. Note as well that MA = water; RA = fire. The two elements that generate all of existence. It says a lot more that Buddhism is anti-existence since it is anti-Mara. The actual Buddha is literally nothing, total extinction.
How would it not be possible, it's an exercise of freewill after all. But really, Jewish genes and soul. Need I say more?
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as above so below, his fucked up body is a reflection of his soul, when will he fucking die already?
"God" created the light and the darkness, the predator and prey, the warm and cold. In the perfection of creation it is necessary for the balance to maintain "terrible" humans as well as "good" humans. Without a family like the Rothschilds, you do not have anything to measure it against, so you would not know good from bad.
The second realization comes in knowing that man created morality, not God. You think of the family as bad based on your morality that was created for you and that you created for yourself. Realize that the members of the family has physical limitations and sickness that prevents them from reaching an awake state. They are completely controlled by greed and ego and spend most of their lives fulfilling out a scheme that was planned hundreds of years ago by their ancestors.
My personal belief is that people born in rich families either are young souls that need to learn simple life, or old souls that needs to learn humbleness.
What drives the elite to make people into slaves and cattle according to them is the excuse that people are zombies. In your case (>>1660) they are right. You must wake up before you can call them disgusting and make sure your house is clean first.
what the fuck is wrong with him
Do you only follow materialism?
I'm not a buddhist, but studied it for a long time.
>You were wrong there. Buddha, before liberation was living in all the pleasures of this world, then he became a hardcore ascetic and then he proposed that true understanding can only be achieved by following neither - the so called Middle Way.
That's not what Middle Way means, but it is usually how it's presented in the West. If you want it in western philosophy terminology, Middle Way is an ontological concept, but is usually and falsely presented as an ethical one.
Buddha had a teacher that claimed that nothing exists at all, and by realizing this state of nothingness, He would attain Enlightenment. He conquered it but saw no freedom. Then He had a teacher that taught that everything existed absolutely, as part of an Ultimate Soul that encompasses all, and one had to meditate on it to achieve Enlightenment. He also conquered the practices, but found no freedom either. These beliefs and practices might lead to pleasurable future lives, but not to end of suffering.
He went on to conclude that it's both wrong to claim that nothing exists in absolute and that everything exists in absolute. Everything thus originates in dependence of a cycle of causality, and by realizing directly that things are absent of an inherent nature, one may break the cycle and get free of taking further births. Emptiness means this: everything is empty of self-existence, but not of existence at all.
Buddha kept teaching after He attained Enlightenment. He has taught others after His death, in other forms. His Enlightenment was announced to Him by the previous Buddha. Mahayana thinks He was already a Buddha since before his birth. A Buddha does not cease to exist by becoming a Buddha, He exists out of samsara and may still project bodies into it.
>To obtain Nirvana is to literally cease to exist
Nirvana is the cessation of mental afflictions, those that keep a person in suffering.
>this is why having Buddha statues is heretical in Buddhism
It's not, it's Holy and many rituals and meditations and done on the images, in ways that result in merit that may causally lead to the aforesaid liberation.
Nuh uh, I referenced to spirituality. I just don't support the complete denial of the self, will and desire since that is unnatural and inhuman.
what have you achieved with satanism?
I'm thinking of trying astral projection tonight but I'm very nervous. I know for a fact I'm going to be doing the LBRP of the Draco slayers but is there anything else I can/should do or be aware of to avoid anything nasty?
Is it possible to partake in sts and sto activities back and forth, or do people have to stick with one or the other?
Just try to maintain a positive state of vibration and not let the spooky stuff get to you when relaxing. If new age normies can do it without getting astrally raped then i'm sure us wizkids can manage.
Hay, I'm trying to use astral travailing/ remote viewing to see things in the present I've had successes but I would still like some advice on clarity it seems to take a lot of effort to focus on something that isn't just the general surroundings.
Any advice on clarity?
Is this just a practice thing or are there some techniques that would help?
What makes an artist paint a bird? Is this a dopamine-related itch? I suspect in order to want to paint all day, one has to experience especially strong itch. I want to understand and experience this itch too.
I do awareness meditation all waking minutes of my life. Making sure my reward system and brain in general is in peak condition is my utmost concern in life right now. However, I'm not anywhere near the state I imagine artists and other high-energy creative people are usually in.
Is there something I am missing? Did I use up all my potential passion and love in my teenage years, when I'd fap every day to hentai memes? Or maybe I wasn't born with it in the first place because my ancestors were simple-living creatures with moderate passion?
You'll tell me to use sigil to make myself more high-energy, but you see, I did! It didn't fulfill my wish, it just made me especially obsessed with researching ways on how to do it. I read on hormones all day and became a health nut, but I feel like I'm missing something, something simple.
One of my theories is that high-energy creative people who are passionate about their work have minds of children. Their neuropathways are wired to just act on the inspirations they get, instead of detaching and analyzing them. They live in the perpetual present + have high energy reserves.
I managed to rewire my habits to more healthy ones with logical tricks, but rewiring my whole sense of perception to be more present is a different kid of rewiring. How to do it? Do I actively punish myself for using my memory, or planning the future? Is this the way to rewire myself to only see present? I read that 3 African tribes can only perceive the present, and they're completely incompatible with the modern world.
Nah it's just people wanting to do what they want to do, I fap all day and still write a lot of music
So some Seekers here are into Satanism. Question for you: is praying to Satan profittable? Is he willing to help without tricks and risks?
1 - There isint only one Aha in life
2 - Unconditional love has to do whit freeing yourself from negative thoughts
Dramatic Example : You get stabbed A) I am grateful for being stabbed for I will finally get to experience death or B) Fuck you mother fucker im gonna die now
In the Norse view of the world the moon (Mani) is the male and sun (Sol) the female
Read the bagavad gita them some random books by Evola that tickle your fancy. It would hope I would do the trick if reading isint your think you could search Srila Prabhupada on youtube or the web but that is insightful at most unlike the bagavadgita
Where is the Spear of destiny?
Here's a short stroty about Terrence. He's never written a book whitout cannabis so he decieded being in small isolated house somewhere in india to try just that. So he rolls a big joint and put's it near the door and then starts writing his book. After a few days he finishes and having done so he goes and fires up his big joint and once high decides to give his book a read. Soon after he realisises that this book is the worst book he has ever written so he scraps it and starts anew this time high.
if you achive the now state of mind you pratically have achived enlightenment
>>implying you can maintain this state of mind
>>don't have to mention spirit/wizardry at all
Song related : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEErsyxMzEw
TRIGGER WARNING SATANIST SONG about being concealed
Tibetan singing bowl.
here is my billo's 1st rundown of satanism
Insofar as I know there are 3 major streams
2) Warlocks who use (abuse) demons to realise there will
3) The guy Jehovah made up to make himself look at-least somewhat good
A wise man will learn more from a fool than a fool will learn from a wise man
>>>Not going to keep playing this game and shitting up this thread.
When in rome do as the romans. If the romans are bad people you following them
will only bring more attention to the issue/inconsistency thus speeding up its repair
Extrated from this book: https://archive.org/details/TheDoctrineOfAwakening
The original meaning of the term ascesis—from άσλέω, "to train"–was simply "training"
and, in a Roman sense, discipline, The corresponding Indo-Aryan term is tapas (tapa or
tapo in Pāli) and it has a like significance: except that, from the root tap, which means "to
be hot" or "to glow," it also contains the idea of an intensive concentration, of glowing,
almost of fire.
With the development of Western civilization, however, the term ascesis (or its
derivatives) has, as we know, taken on a particular meaning that differs from the original.
Not only has it assumed an exclusively religious sense, but from the general tone of the
faith that has come to predominate among Western peoples, a asceticism is bound up with
ideas of mortification of the flesh and of painful renunciation of the world: it has thus
come to represent the method that this faith usually advocates as the most suitable for
and the reconciliation of man, weighed down by original sin, with his
Creator. As early as the beginnings of Christianity the name "ascetic"
was applied to those
who practiced mortification by flagellation of the body.
Thus, with the growth of modem civilization. all that asceticism stood for gradually
and inevitably became the object of strong dislike.
or nerds / roleplayers
>>How do i push thoughts away as described in Book Of Knowledge?
You don't push you let fall because every action has an equal and oposite reaction so by pushing your are in a way giving what you are trying to repel active power
>>The Kali Yuga. The age we are in, the astrological energies interpermeating Earth has resulted in an increase in a general trend of unconsciousness, and now we're swinging into consciousness.
apprarently an other ecceft of this age is that spiritual aspiriants cannot dispell materiality (buddism originated in this age contrary to Hellenistic religions who apprarently conversed whit god's and could clearly distinguish the logo's)
>>SOMETHING WILL HAPPEN EVENTUALLY AND WE WILL HAVE TO BE PREPARED FOR IT.
I am completely unlearnt in Hermeticism but Evola has a book on it I intend to read it when the time one day , here is the link : http://www.cakravartin.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2006/08/Julius-Evola-Hermetic-Tradition.pdf
I hope you have a first hand experience of all history if you wish advance such a claim whit any defenitive credibility. My recommendation is to put the theory away beside the others and wait for proof as to witch is correct.
>>>I'm in a total rut for over a year now /fringe/, where's the reset button?
The reset button is in your back pocket.
Ask a freind to roll a dice out of your view and try and tell him the results. Alternativly you could try using a random number generator while not looking at the generated number until u try and guess
***I would hope It would
Are things such as the five elements, chakras, dan tiens, etc. actual metaphysical properties of the universe, or are they only taught to develop a useful mental-framework for interfacing with reality? I'm particularly interested in the elements
Just had somewhat of a personal realization and and as an extreme newbie, I wanted to post it here (I originally posted this on 8chan but I think I like it better here) to see if it's correct:
I've recently been visualizing my surroundings and the immediate rooms around them while meditating. Yesterday, I was meditating and "saw" in my mind's eye a dark figure outside of my door. Typically when I imagine things like this, I can just… stop imagining them, but this thing wouldn't go away. The same thing happened again while I was showering, with the presence just outside of my shower curtain. Correct me if I am wrong, but can I scientifically understand that these occurrences are my paranoia, while framing them in a magical belief system? In other words, can I "defeat" magically what I scientifically know to be paranoia, given a framework of belief in magic?
i wonder what STO people think about killing insects. Say I have a lot of fruit flies. Ideally I'd like to remove all insects from my house alive but in practice I can't easily do that.
So if I see a fruit fly and crush it is that bad/unloving?
'Cause they annoy me when they're on my monitor.
I am not really an STO, but a good point they should consider before answering you is that flies a have a very short life span anyway and being killed can provide a lot of "experience points" for spiritual evolution.
They say that the opposite of love isn't actually hate, but indifference. Is loving something the same thing as being polarized - in the sense where the basis of polarization revolves around what you love and against anything that threatens it? Therefore, is indifference merely a polarization where you're polarized against love? To depolarize, where does one stand when you have love and indifference as opposite ends?
Love = Complete Acceptance
Hate = Complete Repulsion
Indifference = Neutral
I believe you are a bit wrong.
I'm going in the woods for a while and I was wondering if there are any rituals or anything that might help me have a encounter with the forest spirits.
just sit on the earth and call to them respectfully.
unless you have a firm relationship to them and the drugs you use the drugs will just get in the way.
This is going to sound stupid but how can I make money appear out of thin air? Or just one day wake up with $10k in my bank account or something
One would only ask something like this out of extreme desperation but its either that or doing these damn survey sites for measly 25c a survey.
Start tree hugging like a hippie
You can but you probably likely may not at the moment.In my view, there are two ways do do this : high level magic where you condense raw energy into matter or asking someone who has high level magic (entity) to help you.
>>the gods help those who help themselves
Now as for gaining money a simple sigil could go a long way. Energy follows the path of least resistance so if you just want 10k in your bank the bank could do an error put 10k and remove it 3mins later. So you should condition your affirmation.
>>I am reviving (allways affirm present) beneficial (unless you want early heirlooms) money that is mine to keep or spend as I please.
What if I were to wish it to appear in my room behind some books, in some random drawer, I wouldn't be materializing it per se but would it appear?
Like if I were to just one day be looking between or behind my books, inside my drawers and were to find a stack of hundred dollar bills, after willing it and making me believe its there and I just have to find it, would that work?
Sort of a power of intense focused suggestion thing? And who knows maybe I did hide a stack of hundreds somewhere and simply forgot about it and will "find" it again..
>these are the desperate measures of a poorfag neet
>would that work?
Of course. But it would be probably your own money that you placed there once.
You'd be better off roaming the city on this Saturday night to find money or a wallet that some drunkard lost. Public transport is also highly recommendable.
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What should a Wizard always keep in his kitchen?
In terms of food, ofc
I've been walking the other day and listening to music envoking positive emotions.
During the song, I kept grabbing my hands together. I didn't understand why. It just felt comfortable like this, even though I never do that.
Then I felt something like a charge around my hands. As if air around them was heavier. It's like that feeling you get when you put finger between 2 magnets.
Whatever it is, I've been wondering how can I experiment with it or make use of that. If my body subconsciously wants me to grab my hands together, should I do it, or should I resist it?
Fruit, dried fruits, cereals, water purifier, fresh veggies, healthy oils, honeypot, various spices.
Sounds like energy flow to me, powered by emotion. Read New Energy Ways by Robert Bruce to get a hold of the idea (hardly 60 pages).
Now, to obeying your subconscious urges, you must still identify the source of the thought. But for something as harmless and interesting as allowing your energy to flow easily trough your body, I'd give it a go.
>But for something as harmless and interesting as allowing your energy to flow easily trough your body, I'd give it a go.
Thanks but it doesn't help me even the slightest bit. I want to know what is the reason behind this "energy". My theory is I'm getting extremely subtle shivers due to emotional high from the song. While it's so subtle it's not noticeable, it causes the urge to hold my hands together. And if I don't do it, I get the tingling in hands.
Now, the question is, how can I utilize that.
I did read New Energy Ways. I still don't know how I could apply tingling in hands to anything. Assuming he's talking about the same kind of tingling.
I read some research on frisson and on the kind of special hormone-releasing shivers that one gets after cold shower (they have smth to do with brown fat and muscle). But they're aren't giving me any ideas.
I think in the past, when people were more sensitive to things like that, you had all kinds of bored spiritual people meditating on their tinglings. I bet someone here has something to push me in the right direction
The full extent of energy work comes when you get to differentiate and identify the energy centers in your body - be it chakras, organs, sephiroths, whatever - and manipulate the input/output of energy on them, thus creating changes that transcend your physical body, into the astral, spiritual and mental counterparts.
Emotions provoke this different tinglings because they move more in the astral than the physical, but can be controlled just as any other kind of energy in your body. Of course, hands are a major tool in energy manipulation. You get high on music, channel the energy unto your hands, and transmute it into some energy you need/want/desire, via hand positions, holding gems/stones, etc.
Give it a try and do whatever makes more sense to you, after all that's "the way of least resistance" that you should be looking for.
>Give it a try and do whatever makes more sense to you, after all that's "the way of least resistance" that you should be looking for.
Way of the least resistance for me seems to be position of putting hands together, holding wrist with the other hand, or "amen"-like sign. I suspect our bodies are always trying to set themselves up to balance out some kind of electrical or vibrational tension.
>The full extent of energy work comes when you get to differentiate and identify the energy centers in your body - be it chakras, organs, sephiroths, whatever - and manipulate the input/output of energy on them, thus creating changes that transcend your physical body, into the astral, spiritual and mental counterparts.
I've repeatedly proven to myself that magic works and I have respect for people with spiritual mindset, however, I'm really tired of this kind of information. Absolutely all progress I've made on my spiritual path were results of very down-to-earth thinking. Maybe you have good intentions, but I read information you provide and it's just too ambiguous to be useful.
It would be better for me to ask whether someone here knows if these cheap polygrafs that measure galvanic skin response are worth anything, or they're scams. And whether they're useful at all to self-evaluate oneself. I've had the idea to buy one and experiment with it long ago, then I learned Scientology used to use such device, lol. I guess I wasn't the first one to consider biofeedback for meditation and rituals.
But then, nobody here or anywhere really talks about it. Is it because it's useless, or because people run from tangible spiritual experiments into theoretical philosophical babble
As down-to-Earth as it can be, I´ve found energy work to be a great tool of self control. I haven't measured my neurotransmitters on every organ, but after studying and meditating over the Tree of life, bioenergetic pathways, etc. I've worked on classifying every emotional and energetic input to certain areas of my body, so that it flows well, and when I need to call upon any specific emotional/mental state, I can do so by simply working my energy to said area. That's as down-to-Earth as I plan it to be, because from now on I'm working on transcending the material plane, but I'm just starting that work; you should be interested in beyond-physical implications, because there's where you´re going.
No spiritual new agy bullshit, no babbly theories. I study medicine, I know when I'm being exposed to biased info, poorly designed studies and outright bullshit. What I mentioned, I use it everyday and I am happier and stronger in about every way since I started; it might be one iteration of the million ways out there to use the energy flow in your body - nervous, chemical, electrical, whatever you believe it to be made of- if you're going to ask for proofs on such a subjective matter, you might as well go and make it yourself, because you won't be finding hard (and reliable) facts anywhere.
I want to buy some books off of amazon since I don't like using my nook. I know the kybalion is a good one to start with but there are a bunch of versions of it on there so I'm not sure which one to get. Any other recommendations?
>What are the metaphysical implications of Cannabis
It's a very Yin drug.
Hence, the associations with laziness and suggestibility. Many people also become temporarily gay/bi when high.
Sorry about the marks, I do that to see which ones I still need to get.
just want to get in touch with nature, theres nothing wrong with that.
How does one create an egregore and not a tulpa?
I've heard from one anon who apparently has experience with both foreign and created spirits that created spirits/tulpas produce emotions that are as strong as yours, whereas foreign ones/egregores (or at least foreign in the sense that it's not a part of your own unconscious mind) can also subtly indicate their feelings and intentions to you. I've also read that tulpas will, by default, have access to your thoughts. I can't say I really like this notion, as I want to have my thoughts to myself.
What do you do? Create an energetic body through visualization for the egregore? Kinda sounds like what you would do for a servitor–channel intention into something. Normies often describe creating tulpas by thinking about them a lot (without pouring loosh into an energetic ball above them). Maybe in so doing this creates a connection at the soul that otherwise wouldn't have happened.
Or is it that giving any idea made from scratch (by you alone) requires your own soul to furnish intelligence?
Obviously, if a bunch of people begin pouring thoughtforce into something, a collective egregore will arise that is not a part of any one person's soul.
Does anybody here have some major success with Law of Attraction? All these books saying literally all is possible and I don't see anyone claiming they become billionairs this way or anything like that. It's always some minor synchronicities in the testimonies. So I'm wondering is there someone here can backup by his experience that it's really exactly like it's presented in the books?
thinking about something a lot is pouring loosh into it
Helpful pics, thank you.
did the holocaust happen?
they are the /pol/ of fringechan
I wonder how much the redpill-type "gameplaying" is necessary in relationships.
as some guy, I've had an ideal of romance from a very young age, and I don't really have a clue of how to get it.
Sometimes it seems like I have to pretend to be something I'm not. Like… the last person I liked, I pursued for sexual reasons only at first, having closed my heart/been isolated and thinking "I'll do whatever with this girl and then go find a different one to love" (had had one in mind). Then I fell for her, got hurt in one way, started attracting her with kinda "The Way of the Superior Man"-esque things.
It didn't work out in the end and I got hurt worse, and I don't know what to do.
Because it seems that I'm supposed to pursue sex and then after a few times of that a relationship develops.
But I'd rather have an energetic/romantic bond before that, and maybe that's just because I'm a naive virgin.
Maybe I'm supposed to learn "game" and "attractiveness" and should just sleep with whomever I come across so long as their "spiritual enough" and I'll just make a heart connection with whomever and it's all ephemeral anyway and throwing away this old perception of mine isn't as empty/heart-rending as I used to think it was.
I mean, I had a bad feeling when I was left behind by the person I fell for, and in the end that was just something I had to accept. What am I clinging to this idea of sex as something special for?
I had my own failings of course, and this question can't be adequately answered by my own experience until I'm more established with my soul's traits expressed through my body. But I want it now. ):
And I want an answer to these feelings, whether they're valid or not, whether I'm just screwed up/stunted in my masculine growth and can/should grow in that (*somehow* despite not having much idea of where to go with that) and drop ideas where "I'm good as I am" in the sense of "I don't need to grow [in one area or another] to attract women I find attractive". I kinda do believe that, though I also believe that to maintain an attraction growth must be present.
I need to be more metaphysically/energetically present/grown in order to have a good frame of reference for this I think. A frame for "how much does all this mundane improvement stuff matter?" The answer seems to be "more than the metaphysical stuff" in terms of sex/relationships, but maybe that's just because I don't vibe strongly enough to attract the right people. Or maybe I do and I stopped working enough, because I did stop.
I don't know why anyone would want to be a billionaire though.
>I don't know why anyone would want to be a billionaire though.
If you can manifest that much money you should have already obtained anything most people would want unless you're being unreasonably greedy or trying to buy an island/country or something
I have attachment issues. I mean, i never chase after a girl unless i really like her for some reason. Unless i have some sort of attraction. It's indescribable. Love is illogical and doesn't have some purpose, right?
That's nice, but as i said, i have attachment issues. It ended 2 months ago, and i still miss her. It ended because of my neediness, and now i would try it again but im afraid i'll be needy again and then she won't like me and boo hoo hoo…
How do i let her go? How do i sort out these psychological issues?
Also, what do you think about Alan Watts? He says that we are all already Enlightened, it's just that we don't see it. When you're aware of it, then you know. He also says that Meditation is not a path to enlightenment, because when you do anything to be enlightened, you already miss the fact that you already are enlightened.
So, you should do nothing. But, trying to do nothing is doing something.
I agree with Watts. I don't think magic has anything to do with Enlightenment. Then again, it depends on your definition of Enlightenment - if Enlightenment is gaining higher knowledge of the laws behind the physical world, then yes, magic does serve such purpose. If you want to merge with the Godhead, then magic doesn't really do anything.
Magic is just manipulating energies.
Are anyone on this board who are familiar with The Universal Gnostic Fellowship?
What causes cannbis anxiety/parsnoia how do i stop it
Besides things like love, you would need money for the majority of things you want in life
Is there any noted advantage to choking your astral attacker, presumably to death?
I haven't been attacked in a while, but from an early age I've reacted this same way to my attackers and for whatever reason it seems to work. I assume that the simplicity of a direct application also coincides in its effectiveness. I would post this in the dream thread but I'm more interested in knowing if there's any particular significance in a scenario like this:
Last night I immediately recognized that a threat had appeared in my dream. It took the form of a child, presumably because there were children present in the dream and it wanted to blend in. Despite its choice in appearance it demanded my attention and stood in front of me. As soon as I realized what I was really looking at, it transformed into a more monstrous form; its skin turned pale-yellow like a dying plant, its teeth multiplied and pointed outward, and it sprung at me. I immediately grabbed it by the throat and held it down. With nothing short of a death grip I was intent on never letting it go until it was dead. I have to admit that quite literally choking the life out of it - like all past attackers - gave me sick pleasure. My alarm woke me up before I could see it dead.
why did you have to post a nigger
>pour tonnes of fire element with intent to make people more active and have more of a self preservation instinct
>sodomites get shot in America
>a bunch of people come out with anti-islam signs on the same day
This is a pretty good change compared to the I'll ride with you tag after the Sydney shooting.
I can't describe how good it feels to be capable of producing mass effect like that.
but that's a logical reaction, and even though people nowdays are braindead, even the most cucked of liberals acknowledge the sandnigger scum, a lot of people were probably planning to do it anyway, if you do have actual control over this stuff then pls kill merkel, sadiq khan and the whole rothschild family
I still can't wrap my head around how they elected an actual terrorist that wants them all dead as their mayor, what in the fuck is wrong with britbongs
If they didn't they would be racist and too them that's worse than death
I wonder what's the reason for this, why so many people are this retarded and why did my 16 year old brother get red pilled without me even needing to interfere
>Is the Earth natural?
As natural as one can get, at least that is my impression.
>Is there a way of achieving this [Godhead]?
This is only the ultimate end goal of all religions & spiritual practices. Every different belief I've encountered has a piece of the truth, some have better metaphors than others, but the fundamental problem is they all attempt to describe something which is beyond words.
Truth has nothing to do with words. Truth can be likened to the bright moon in the sky. Words, in this case, can be likened to a finger. The finger can point to the moon's location. However, the finger is not the moon. To look at the moon, it is necessary to gaze beyond the finger. - Anon
And to that end it is necessary to walk the path oneself. Where exactly the path is can be clearer or murkier depending on which particular philosophy you follow to. Due to that it is my firm belief that the best way to discern the way is to find the harmonic amalgamation of them all. Think of it like triangulating the moon (truth) by collecting many different fingers showing the way (perspectives), with only a small amount, especially if closely related to one another, it is more likely there will be an oversight error due to lack of bigger picture understanding that if you had (seeming) opposing view points which intersected.
If you go to >>>/fringe/193 you can see my full list, however the ones I found to be the most insightful (and in no particular order) are Gnosticism/Syncretism (like Santos Bonacci), Hermetism, Ayur Vedic wisdom, & Taoism. Not to say the rest aren't worth looking into, just that I believe the aforementioned hold the majority of the necessary information to provide a good base.
>i lost the will to live. I can't enjoy anything anymore… Spirituality is my last ditch effort, i am starting to contemplate suicide. Maybe im being melodramatic, but this is just the way i see it, i don't know.
I was once (kind of) there. I didn't see understand why I incarnated in this bit of time-space and so I sought to 'reroll' another incarnation. Needless to say every time I tried to leave there was synchronistic/divine intervention that prevented me from leaving, I was kicked back with the knowledge that there was a reason I was here, it wasn't just for me but for others, and I'm not leaving until it's done.
Several years later I really truly understood what was meant by that, and now where I am incarnated is not of particular importance to me, just so long as I'm growing spiritually, as that is the real reason for being.
>I become lucid in my dreams sometimes, twice earlier, but lose control quite quickly, and have never had success at changing the scenery, it always either makes me lose control or I end up somewhere I did not intend, any pro tips for gaining more control?
Practice & gradual change, try altering smaller things, the clothes you're wearing, the shape of a window, etc. Once you become more comfortable doing that you will not only have more precision in what you're doing but more confidence, you won't get super excited (thus altering your brainwave-state) it will be more normal.
>So I think I've been doing deep breathing (and therefore meditation) wrong.
>When I try deep breathing, belly breathing, etc and consciously focus on breath I get tingling sensations soon after, on my face and hands, and sometimes a headache as well.
Seems quite normal. The headache is probably just you adapting to the new level of energy present and over time will fade and not be painful in the slightest.
>I just learned that these sensations are because of hyperventilation, even worse I would chase these sensations when meditating because I thought that implied it was working and they would get so strong that I would feel them engulf me and roll around my face kinda like pressure, the tingling and pressure, but that was just extreme hyperventilation wasn't it?
How many seconds in/hold/out are you doing? I suppose this is also possible but you described definitely also a result of an increase in prana (and awareness thereof).
>Anyways I just read up on hyperventilation and linked it to that sensation I get when meditating, is this a correct asumption?
It may be partially, but without a more of a description on the type of tingling and/or what else there may be, it's hard to say. I will comment thusly though, when I actually try to hyperventilate myself I can feel the O2:CO2 levels changing and it's not really at all similar to the way energy feels to me.
>Or is there a difference between the kind of tingling sensation you get when hyperventilating compared to a similar sensation when deep in meditation or whatever like I experienced?
Depending on the type of breath and the type of meditative trance there can be many different sensations. Look up different types of yogic breaths and experiment with them.
>What are the metaphysical implications of Cannabis and what role does it play in the magicians toolbox?
In my experience it helps you sense energy, that is why many find music so pleasurable when high, they are riding the waves of loosh induced now that they are more sensitive to the currents. Through meditations while in this state it is possible to transfer the awareness it affords you temporarily into normal sober waking non-meditative consciousness; in this way it is a tool to accelerate the growth of your spirit.
However, many do not treat the substances in a sacred manner not really learning but merely there for the high/trip. This can (often) results in escapism and incentivize chasing of the altered state (addiction) through external means rather than internal.
>How to overcome the need for love and lust?
I shall start with lust, which is a state of being derived from the perceived need (and also separation) from another being, there is a desperate drive for connection with them, and even in the moment, in the heat of passion, a feeling that one must get it all now because it may not last. This is all untrue due to the all is one nature of reality, it is illusion.
Love, in the human sense, is a step or 2 above lust, but still rooted in illusion, that is why there is attachment, that is why there is pain/suffering when they leave die or otherwise leave you.
Love, in the divine sense, is the ultimate goal, it is the acknowledgment of the unity, that you are one regardless of where in time or space their flesh is compared to yours, that at any time you can reach out with your consciousness and touch their being, it is caring for and appreciating them regardless of circumstances. And should not be be striven to be overcome, only the lesser forms.
>What's the most effective relaxation ritual?
Me, being a fan of energy work is more visualization than anything, very little to do in the flesh. I would recommend starting with a shower in which you impregnate the water, as it runs across your flesh, with the intention of absorbing that which is disharmonic to your being, taking it away from you.
Then I would do chakra/antakarana clearing, once nearly perfectly clear (this will probably take less than an hour, certainly less than 2).
I would then take crystals/stones for the various chakras (crown can be exempted if you like) and lay down, setting the stones directly on your flesh (so take off your shirt and any other constricting clothing, I prefer naked), I set the root chakra stone right on my pelvic bone.
Relax into this for as long as you like. Optional, if you like you can set up a sacred space around you and or take a bath with charged water afterwards as well.
>I'm not very knowledgeable on qi or energy work in general, so I don't know how much truth there is to these claims if any.
It seems pretty accurate.
>For now though I'll attempt to meditate or do deep breathing exercises (if they aren't one and the same)
There are different types of them, some meditations are highly imaginative and don't focus too much on what the flesh is doing, some use the breath as a synch or use parts of the flesh to nudge energy along, some are almost entirely breath or flesh based (like the more physical yogas).
>I'm having trouble remembering my thoughts on the first exercise [In IIH], anyone have any tips to help?
Save practice, perhaps trying to gently shape the thoughts, or maybe recording them in freehand/freestyle on paper.
>Has anyone here managed to put themselves into the state of "now"? I mean, for a few seconds at least, you lost the understanding of the concepts of the past and future?
Of course. Being present is of utmost important to any application of freewill. Being so aware & in the moment that naught else exists besides what is present, a hyperawareness of what is (when compared to "normal" consciousness), a greatly increased clairsentient, -voyant, & -cognizant interface with energies is primarily how it is for me.
>I wish someone described to me how it feels like, so I'd know what I'm looking for. I've been trying for hundreds of hours and I just can't.
Perhaps https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxVht5kELno will help you.
>Is this worth it to try some drugs to hopefully experience it?
Maybe, if you treat them with respect and don't abuse them.
>Is there a way to do ayahuasca without vomiting?
No idea mate, sorry.
>how to get better harsh vocals with magick?
I would imagine by strengthening the throat chakra would achieve these ends.
>why did you guys delete the old question thread?
>>>/ask/ is the archival board for that purpose. It is so it does not clutter up the catalog.
Always appreciate the answers
>What causes cannbis anxiety/parsnoia
Smoking a lot of cannabis
>how do i stop it
Stop smoking cannabis
I am now in a 5 days roll of renouncing lust. I have been plagued by Erectile Dysfunction and severe performance anxiety.
The thing is, I am getting extremely excitable. I picture myself fucking to go to sleep and keep remembering past sexual experiences with my ex. I don´t want her in my mind anymore. So, sometimes i imagine that i´m having sex with a girl of my college. Could this be prejudicial to me in some way? Am I sending my loosh to them? Am I coming closer to this imaginary reality by visualizing it in my third eye?
I have, for many years tried to abstain from masturbation. This time is the one that i have been most successful. Although I feel and see the results in my physical body, my mind and my soul, i´m tempted. I even thought about summoning a Succubus.
I believe that Ragajara, the being on the picture can help me in this journey.
The thing is, i´m currently in the first practices on Bardons Book. Can I start meddling with Godforms already? Do I have the power to summon a Succubus and don´t screw things up? Should I?
I have heard that not all Succubi are inherently evil. How do I summon a Good/Neutral one. I wil be very clear. ==I can´t fuck.== I feel the desire and I can cum while masturbating to porn. But as soon as I penetrate, I go soft. My penis is kind of ¨numb¨. I just want to have a normal sex life. Maybe a good sexual spirit might be of help.
I won´t touch myself tough. That is decided.
>The thing is, I am getting extremely excitable.
Your sexual energy needs an outlet.
>But as soon as I penetrate, I go soft. My penis is kind of ¨numb¨. I just want to have a normal sex life. Maybe a good sexual spirit might be of help.
Read the Multi-Orgasmic Man by Mantak Chia which is in the initiate folder under supplements. It contains techniques which if you utilize what Energy Work teaches, it will allow you to restore your virility among many other things. As I said, your sexual energy needs an outlet and what better way than channeling it into a permanent reservoir like the Multi-Orgasmic Man teaches?
As a word of encouragement, once you begin learning to be Multi-Orgasmic via non-ejaculatory orgasms or at least the Cool Draw, you will feel increasingly less lustful and you will know what to do when your arousal steals your attention. As an added bonus, your sexual energy is directly tied to your creativity so once you harness it, then permanently store it, you will regain and exceed what creativity you once and ever had.
Addendum: this is also taught in Cultivating Male Sexual Energy but I felt that The Multi-Orgasmic Man was more direct. However, Cultivating Male Sexual Energy is elaborate and thorough. If you want answers fast, Multi-Orgasmic Man gives you them right away but Cultivating Male Sexual Energy delves further into those answers.
Here's what you might be missing - sexual transmutation. Sexual energy is the most powerful creative force in the world. The most basic, powerful human desire comes from sex, and powerful desire prompts all human action. So learn to harness and transmute your sexual energy, combine that with a strong will, and then you will become a great artist.
Read this: http://www.sacred-texts.com/nth/tgr/tgr16.htm
Some people waste their energy on fapping, and others bottle it up by becoming celibate and hating their lust. But great artists, scientists, etc sublimate and channel this strong primal desire into higher spiritual pursuits. When they are painting a bird, they are literally having sex through that bird. I believe this is the main difference between normal people and great artists. I don't want to sound like I'm preaching, but this was a revelation to me as an artist.
Woah, didn´t expected to get answers that fast. Manky thanks.
So, let me ask another thing. I´ve been reading Evolas ¨The Yoga of Power¨. I also noticed that there is the ¨Convict Conditioning¨ books on the Initiate folder. Yoga is mainly concerned with practice… Does a similar text exist, but concerning Hatha Yoga?
I hold the belief that while maintaining celibacy I can ¨throw the energy up¨ and awaken the upper chakras.
How could one awaken kundalini? Thats the main question. I would realy like a practical manual with lots of illustrations about the exercises.
Again, many thanks.
>How could one awaken kundalini? Thats the main question.
That sounds like a very general question so unless you meant to specify, it could mean, "how do I use my chi?" To be clear I'm not nitpicking how you asked, just making trying to see if I can answer your question. As described in Cultivating Male Sexual Energy, Kundalini is analogous to chi also known as prana:
>Taoist cultivation of sexual energy cannot be understood until the Chinese concept of "chi" is clear. Chi, also known as prana, the warm current, Kundalini power, or the electro-magnetic life force, is very difficult to describe because this life energy is invisible and cannot be seen. (pg. 12 or 46 in pdf)
>He notes that mind, breath and sexual function are interconnected. The spiritual aim of the yogi is to "carry his seed high." This seed releases pranic energies, also known as the Kundalini power, rising up the spine to higher chakras or centers of spiritual function. (55/ pdf 90)
In Multi-Orgasmic Man but expanded upon in Cultivating Male Sexual Energy:
>NEVER LEAVE SEXUAL ENERGY IN THE BRAIN FOR LONG PERIODS OF TIME
>Remember to touch your tongue to your palate to allow this energy to come down through the Front Channel to the navel, where it can be safely stored. In the past, many teachers of Eastern sexuality taught students how to draw energy up to their brain without teaching them how to bring it back down again. This resulted in what has been call the Kundalini syndrome. The Taoists knew the importance of completing the circle. Anytime you feel like you have too much energy, inhale to your abdomen, and as your exhale, bring the energy all the way down to your toes and the soles of your feet (see figure 14). ( pdf 36).
It sounds like you need to read these and you will also discover why Mantak Chia found it necessary to combine his knowledge of Taoism because he had some serious concerns about Kundalini yoga:
>The young Mantak Chia felt, however, that Kundalini Yoga produced too much heat and could be dangerous and so he later combined it with elements of Taoist practice, which had cooling effects.
Basically, both compliment each other so your study of it should already come in handy as Mantak's techniques show you how to balance the heat of Kundalini. (pg 11 pdf of Cultivating Male Sexual Energy)
>I would realy like a practical manual with lots of illustrations about the exercises.
Both books have these.
You have my interest. Taoist practice is one of my interests, seeing that the author combines this with Indian knowledge amuses me and makes me wanna read the books.
But I haven´t mentioned why i need Hatha yoga so bad. There is another problem within me. I am not a single bit flexible, and my spine is really crooked. (Scoliosis.) I wanna be flexible in my body because ¨as above, so below¨. That is why I wanna a Hatha Yoga Manual. Does those books have these? I will read them anyway, but since i have a lot of free time, Im going to practice meditation, yoga and do the steps of Franz Bardon Initiation. Sometimes these will overlap.
Once more, many thanks. I´m grateful, because you are helping me. Thanks for leading the way.
How do I stop getting so easily influenced by everything?
It gets so bad that I can't recognize my own personality, my perception of the world and opinions changes, even my own physical appearance changes.
I've struggled with this for as long as I can remember.
If I try to fight these thoughts I become extremely stressed out, and if I relax, I am still influenced without me even realising it.
Firstly, discipline yourself to practice constant awareness and self-observation in everyday life. Whenever you notice you are not aware of what's influencing you, return your mind to a state of awareness, EVEN if you have to do this 200 times an hour. Ingrain the concept of "awareness" into your conciousness. Use affirmations in daily life, and repeat them every night as you go to sleep. Become awareness. Life awareness is no different from meditation, and actual meditation will help you realize this.
Always maintain positive energy and a warm, loving outlook. Do not hate what's influencing you. Do not hate yourself for being influenced. Do not fall into negativity. Love and accept everything, yourself, and your influences. If you need to repeat positive energy and love affirmations, do so. For me personally, accepting my influences with love has greatly reduced their power over me.
For added effect, perform a physical ritual, such as the LBRP banishing ritual, to remove your influences. Or visualize a shield/bubble of white light around you, repelling everything negative and detrimental. Or create an entity/thoughtform and impregnate them with your affirmation.
Also, playing around with your personality might help you realize your true self, and the arbitrariness of personality. Read the Arcane Formulas if you have not already. Get to know your true self, independent of thoughts and emotions. An exercise I read in some old book said, choose two random, completely different and complex personalities, with totally opposing opinions/worldviews, and switch between one and the other every day for a week, thoughts and all.
i've been reading "Mastering Astral Projection in 90 Days" by Robert Bruce, and have been doing the techniques in said book. I'm still in the first week, and I've been having success with his energy body stimulation work. However, it is REALLY difficult, and i can feel myself working very very hard when I'm doing it. It feels as if my brain is hurting when I do these exercises due to how hard i'm working to achieve the results.
Should I be having such a level or difficulty so early on? Should I look into other methods for astral travel, or am I on the right track?
Regarding ED and performance anxiety.
Sure, there can be many causes, but consider this:
The problem with masturbation is not exactly masturbation itself. The bigger problem is the fact that when you do it, you are always thinking or looking at something else. It can be porn, it can be a fantasy about something.
The point is, you are always mixing up the energy. You are using imaginative energy to stimulate your sexual centers. This is a bad long term strategy, this leads to ED, anxiety and so on.
You can try curing it this way:
Start practicing a different kind of masturbation. From now on, when you masturbate, have no images, no porn going on in your head, no ex girlfriends, nothing. IT IS YOUR TIME. As gay as it sounds, you need to get in touch with yourself. You have to learn to get arroused simply by touching yourself, rubbing yourself, being gentle with yourself.
As you might notice, at first, your dick will not react. That is because you have associated sexuality with the IDEA of sex. That is why your dick goes limp when you get inside. You are wired to react to the IDEA of intimacy, not intimacy itself.
You have to rewire this thing, by praticing masturbation where you only think about what is happening right now, the sensations, how it feels, and so on. The same goes on having sex- you have to let go and fully surrender to the experience, without conceptualizing about sex. There is a saying that " you can think about having sex with a woman before, and after having sex, but never during".
If you look in to this, I am sure you will fix it, I did it myself. You can learn the non-ejaculatory orgasm as well, that will give you more control.
TLDR: Basing your sexual energy, on intellectual, visual, external stimulation rewires you to be unable to feel and express pure sexuality.
Australians don't care about world politics past the American comedy shows and our biased media that sucks Abdul's dick and bashes anything that resembles nationalism. For me it's a huge victory but I doubt I can actually magically assassinate anyone but Sadiq.
Energy work, which is basically what you'll be going through in the first weeks of that book is useful through a range of magical practices, keep at it.
It wasn't particularly difficult for me from what I remember but it's basically effortless at this point so it WILL get easier with practice, same with any rudimentary exercise like clearing your mind.
some very insightful essays, maybe it is just Arcane Formulas repacked but i think Atkinson isn't very detailed about the Self
>This is without a doubt that sensation that I felt that day I tried meditating for the first time. So I'm asking now for advice on what do I do to reach this state again?
Opensess, don't be afraid, don't have exepctations, don't try to force it, just simply be.
>Will it just come naturally after I settle into the rythym of meditating again daily?
>Is it advised to follow the teachings of Satanism?
I personally do not do vows or oaths and would personally recommend against it as well, but otherwise, much of the energy work/meditations are solid, though there are some inconsistencies see >>>/fringe/349 for that reason I also explored other avenues to try to rectify the information
>I don't want to go down a path where I'll end up losing myself or something similar.
Well, depending on what you define as the self… if you define it as the ego (or the form you are), that is something that will happen regardless of which spiritual path you walk.
>Any guesses as to why a golden light is the most relaxing?
It seems to be associated with love, but I'm really not sure otherwise.
>I just hope I don't force myself out of it out of irrational anxiety and fear if I do achieve Jhana again, or feel an OBE happening. I've done this before when a WILD was spontenously forming around me, and I forced myself out of it, always regret doing so only after the fact.
>Is anyone else prone to doing that? Forcing yourself out of these sudden sensations or out of a dream forming around you because it gets too intense and you panic
It is due to fear (of the unknown), release your anxiety. It may be a slow and gradual process, every moment is a step further.
>After all, the lyrics work as affirmations, the more people listening to it, the more effect it has on The All.
This is very important. Music mind control is a very prevalent tide in collective consciousness, and one many are not even aware of. Affirmations all by themselves can be powerful, but when coupled with emotional energy and repeated often through your mind, it is quite impactful on your individuated awareness and what you radiate out to other people.
>As I read through Satanism, I see that I'm required to make a blood pact with him.
And that is why I never partook in such.
>As far as I know those are dangerous, and red flags are popping up
They can be and I felt the same way, so I took what could be used, the meditations and the like (which are mostly the same as many other philosophies) and experimented around with them without any sort of oath.
>The main practice of spiritual satanism is meditation too right?
Seems to be.
>Why even associate it with satanic entities if it's just meditation used for your own advancement?
Perhaps if one felt compelled to, I tried evoking a couple of them, I didn't care much for what I got so I left it be.
>Theistic Satanism is a meme anyway.
>It has 0 historical basis.
>implying memes can not be historical
>What is kek
>What is gondala
>For those who read Franz Bardon and Joy of Satan: They say JoS stole from Bardon, but is this really the case?
It seems to be more so that JoS stole from yogic teachings primarly, with some of their own flavoring as well.
>And what is superior/better?
I personally learn more towards eastern techniques, the energy work seems a better way than much of the western abstractive ways (although bardon has a minimal amount of that, still), but the bottom line is, what ever works best for you.
>So I was reading the meditative practices thread and all the suggested means of "getting more in tune" like paintbrushing and all that.
>My question is, and I mean this in the most respectful and serious way possible, what is the difference between "improving your imaginative visualisation so that you can visualise with your developed minds eye metaphysical but fully real things like 'energy' and 'spirits'" and on the other hand… well… "withdrawing too deep into your own mind and consciously nurturing your own schizophrenic break with objective reality"?
As long as one remains rooted and capable of interacting with all realms they exist in there is no problem, it's simply additional options for interfacing with reality.
Some, like those with traumas, may use it as escapism method, and that can lead to denial of the physical realm, which is not healthy but so long as one maintains balance there is no problem.
>Where does purely internal subjective mind-imagination end and external objective mind-sensing begin?
There isn't anything purely subjective as all is one, if anything is capable of being sensed, it exists. Now one may be projecting their awareness somewhere removed from the localized environment…
>The voices from the TV telling the hobo to shank the local mayor because he is the lizard-toad king of the gangster computer god are all real within his own realm but not real anywhere else.
or seemingly more often in cases such as this, information is being projected into their awareness via exotic means (be it psychic or tech-brain interfaces). However the above statement about being rooted in oneself apply here, if one applies reasoning to all information such will never happen as it, though may actually be true, it is (often) not in the best interest of that soul's life path to act upon it and even if fighting the STS was the goal of that incarnation there are more effective ways of enacting that.
>If all the practices are willing yourself to see and hear something then it kind of begs the question if that isn't all it does?
By exercising the imagination one trains their capacity to sense the subtle vibrations in varying patterns but they also exercise their ability to cohere energy into those patterns. It is just as important for receiving as sending.
>Willing yourself to see and hear things that purely your own mind concocts?
This is where discernment between your essence and that of others and the rest of reality comes in, and also understanding of the metaphysical laws which govern said interactions comes in, allowing for one to make sense of what they perceive and apply it in a useful way.
>And if so, that begs the most dangerous question of all. If it is all internal, then the entire field is just shared rewiring of the brain and a shared tripping-out session. Swapping techniques for coaxing the mind to feel certain things or go on certain trips, all subjective, all imaginative, all non-real. Modding in video games into the mindOS.
Even if all the sculpting was within the psyche of an individual, the changes will be reflected in their flesh, aura, and overall health, as within so without. By perfecting the mind, by bringing it into a state of love and peace you will radiate that, a literal healing soothing aura exuded from your being.
Also by going through the process yourself you can help accelerate others through the same. And it's not just about reaching that space of unshakable peace, it's about becoming one. Divine peace despite the varitible storm of emotions, thoughts, and energies present in world is a necessary prerequisite to being able to rise above the unconscious torrential flux and consciously choose your state of be-ing.
>I realise that comes off as pointed but I'm really not trying to poke holes in anything simply to poke holes, nor trying to be a jerk.
You need not apologize, a critical mind is very important, lest one be deceived. Your method is not wrong, just your presumptions.
>How did people like Franz Bardon obtain all that knowledge?
Probably how most of us did, intuition, reading/talking to others about it, reasoning on what data was collected and what experiences where had. Well, I presume, not that I knew him personally.
>does objective reality exist outside our minds?
Objective reality is the physical realm, it is that which one can use fleshly senses to perceive and interact with, for this reason many believe this to be the only thing that is "real", however because the material is not all that exists, this is not true. Beyond that, things still has an existence independent of the observer but it would require training of the consciousness to be able to discern, these are called transjective.
Now it is possible for a transjective thing to exist, but only temporarily, for mere moments or minutes, and while it is capable of being sensed by another being, it may not be, and thusly is sometimes called subjective. The longer something exists the more likely another will sense it, like sensitive friend sensing your tulpa.
>Let me rephrase - the physical world is made out of energy (waves) which our brain interprets through the five senses. Thus we have reality.
And the clair-voyant/sentient/cognizant/audiant six sense (if developed).
>How do i know if reality isn't just in my mind?
All is in the mind of God, and if you can achieve flawless union with the all that is true, however until you reach that level of consciousness "your" mind is but a small part of the totality. It can be demonstrated that reality exists in addition to the piece of consciousness that you are; notice how reality responds when you exert your will to alter something totally within your domain (like your mind) compared to something within the co-creative domain of society. You will notice that others are (even if subconsciously) exerting their will to shape/hold reality in a certain way and, while it is possible to alter the current of the collective consciousness, it is different (until you reach that Godlike union with the object in question).
Thanks for the detailed answer.
alright will do, thanks man
How much influence does the time of constructing a magical instrument have on its effective scope of usage? Say I constructed a wand during a day which heavily corresponded with elemental earth. Would this particular wand be extremely effective in rituals involving earth?
again, I don't see how one can spend a billion dollars on desires unlesss they were greedy
Let go by letting go. Realise the enrgy that attracts you and create it within yourself/connect to an archetype/god that allows you to have that at will. that worked for me. Also develop a love/attachment to yourself/soul mb so you an hold youself.
Watts has an interesting idea. seesm legit
the other guy is right, but cannabis heigtens perception of energy and stuff. so you get to a point where youre being more aware of energies and also it has its own energies and also it can cause holes in your aura which lets in more energies. basically you get overloadded. and more aware of yourself and possible discomfort if you don't like yourself/yuour life.>>3474
read the image title. it was relevant to the post i n a way.
> i need Hatha yoga so bad. T
do work-stufdy at a yoga center near you if you can. easier than book learning and free. otherwise look up the ashtanga primary series abd idk what you can learn about getting into the poses but there should be tips if you look up each one indicidually.
>>What is gondala
i know kek is frog god but what is gondala?
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>but what is gondala?
Total shot in the dark here but I wouldn't be surprised if he's an alien caricature trying to learn how to harness meme power.
Thanks. Although, i kinda saw what the problem was - i didn't really miss her for her, this was some kind of selfish love. Like, i seek to use her in order to prove to myself that i am loving, that i am good with girls, etc.
But a new problem arises. I don't find any girls attractive. I mean, i do, physically, but i don't have that drive to go and get 'em.
Is this because i fap? Do i lack initiative (the fire element)? Or maybe im right about them having no real substance… I mean, the girls nowadays are no fun at all!
If it fits according to your system of belief, yes it would be. Remember anon the universe is mental, if you believe constructing a wand on a particular day that resonates with the earth element, it will be so according to your will.
>Is this because i fap? Do i lack initiative (the fire element)? Or maybe im right about them having no real substance… I mean, the girls nowadays are no fun at all!
The first is most likely, but the second and third are likely too. Sometimes the interesting ones pop up when you stop looking. Sometimes you gotta look in the right place.
>Sometimes the interesting ones pop up when you stop looking
I've noticed this happens occasionally. Thanks
So is the universe completely mental or completely dependant on the hermetic principles or is it a bit of both?
>a bit of both
basic principles, shifting guidelines, and the will inside oneself/All that shifts those guidelines, from what I understand.
Is the Science Behind Miracles a good book for someone who has read the basics, but not gotten very far into the occult or should I wait till later to read it?
It's an excellent read at any time.
So, I've seen people here say that they can turn off their thoughts at will. I'd like to know if it applies only to meditation, or whether you can function normally all day without thoughts whatsoever.
Why is it when I use the internet and media in general that I can feel my mind becoming clouded.
Come out of closet already!
I think I can do most things without thinking.
I think the energies are weird. For one thing. Also, it's like entering another world. Windows/tabs are like windows into othr dimensions. Quite ungrounding, also disruptive to listening to self/spirit. I get that way too, scattered.
Are there any resources on not being noticed if you have prominant magick about you? I have strong potential but have been paranoid about "awakening" it because of worry regarding others with malicious intentions who may notice me.
1. Affirm your safety and security [in the present tense].
2. Craft invisibility thought forms
3. Work on strengthening your aura, program it to repel negativity and malevolent beings.
4. Don't worry and 'expect' beings to find you out. That will only pull them in your sphere of reality by law of attraction.
Either how, you'll have to wake and work on that potential regardless of dangers. Otherwise stagnation will occur and parts of that potential you speak will whither by the day.
there is no law of attraction
Great argument, please come again.
The reason you are on this imageboard even is because of the law of attraction. Any wizard on this board can prove the validity of the effect of energies aligning, the principle of attracting and repulsing energies, the law of attraction; no matter the label, its a fundamental basis.
Smiley's unending negative state of mind and the resulting suffering he has to deal with prove otherwise.
His next post will be
I almost guarantee it.
>Craft invisibility thought forms
Would this be a sort of persistent spell? You don't give it awareness like a tulpa right? Is the amount of them that can be had at a time only limited by my own concentration? Do they just dissipate if they are forgotten about?
any advice for minimalism & minimalistic living?
finding myself holding too tight to my things, esp. crystals and books
>What's a good jumping off point for alchemy?
And know this, what energy is present, will by virtue of its mere existence, will cohere reality into a form harmonic with it. And the higher density of energy the faster this change will take place.
Alchemy, as it is classically spoken of is as much of an internal process as an external one. The same process as the perfection of the temple and the achievement of immortality is used in creating the (actual physical) gold from lead, via a highly concentrated form of those energies, which is oft called the philosopher's stone.
Goes into it in regards to the flesh. In regards to the latter see & references:
P.S. Fulcanelli is highly recommended.
>Yeah you're right, there's really no other reality we will ever know except the one that's derived from our own experience.
>What do we need to do though in order to affect reality the way we affect our dreams?
You can, and I, have shared astral "dream" experiences with people.
>Dreams are in our mind only
All is mind, our awareness is the true definition of our being.
>the Universe i believe is a dream dreamed by the All, or God if you prefer.
I agree, we all exist within the imagination of God.
>Define "occultism", because I don't have a very clear idea what you mean by the term.
Occult means hidden. Occultism, the -ism is the belief or following of that which is (hidden), the subtle energies that create reality, magic.
>How is it possible for such vile, disgusting, terrible human beings like the rothschild family to exist?
Darkness can not exist without Light, contrast must exist so a freewill choice can be made. Now the balance of such… waxes and wanes with the ages, but within creation, both must eternally be.
>I'm thinking of trying astral projection tonight but I'm very nervous.
Calm your nerves or you may not even leave your body. You need to be able to accept what you observer without feeling the need to mechanically re-act.
>I know for a fact I'm going to be doing the LBRP of the Draco slayers but is there anything else I can/should do or be aware of to avoid anything nasty?
I would recommend
But honestly just setting your intent and not succumbing to irrational fear should more than enough.
>Is it possible to partake in sts and sto activities back and forth
>or do people have to stick with one or the other?
To further refine your being it is necessary to polarize your being to one or other other, else you'll remain in the same density you are in until you do. Only purer vibrations (be they love or fear) are able to transcend.
>Hay, I'm trying to use astral travailing/remote viewing to see things in the present I've had successes but I would still like some advice on clarity it seems to take a lot of effort to focus on something that isn't just the general surroundings.
>Any advice on clarity?
Practice practice practice. I'm still hardly a master, but I can percieve much clearer now that I could a year ago (in which it was predominately clairsentience and not much clairvoyance at all).
>Is this just a practice thing or are there some techniques that would help?
From what I've heard doing visualizative exercises such as >>>/fringe/7 , >>>/fringe/15 & >>>/fringe/16 tbh I have not been that diligent in doing them, but what I can say is that through actually exercising my intuition/imaginative senses when doing actual magic it has increased in clarity, so it stands to reason the above would be effective. It is just I mainly prefer to do real workings as my 'practice.'
>What makes an artist paint a bird?
The desire to express something. To be struck by inspiration.
>Is this a dopamine-related itch? I suspect in order to want to paint all day, one has to experience especially strong itch. I want to understand and experience this itch too.
Only on occasion do I draw/paint/write (like articles for my thread)/etc. but when I'm inspired and often it's completed quite swiftly, I can't really force myself to create, it just does not work that way; I'm always unsatisfied if I try.
>I do awareness meditation all waking minutes of my life. Making sure my reward system and brain in general is in peak condition is my utmost concern in life right now. However, I'm not anywhere near the state I imagine artists and other high-energy creative people are usually in.
>Is there something I am missing?
I think the key is channeling, be it an entity, a piece of collective consciousness, or God himself.
>Did I use up all my potential passion and love in my teenage years, when I'd fap every day to hentai memes?
Until you are dead there always exists the possibility to salvage this life. Though it may take effort and time to restore what was lost, never believe it to be impossible.
>Or maybe I wasn't born with it in the first place because my ancestors were simple-living creatures with moderate passion?
Perhaps, perhaps your higherself had other things planned for you in this life (that is not to say you can not shortcut your way to a higher state of being or otherwise exert your freewill otherwise, it just means your predispositions are X).
>You'll tell me to use sigil to make myself more high-energy, but you see, I did! It didn't fulfill my wish, it just made me especially obsessed with researching ways on how to do it.
Sounds like step one to me.
>I read on hormones all day and became a health nut, but I feel like I'm missing something, something simple.
But then again, perhaps you desire is not higher energy but rather the state of being that comes with that. Like people thinking they desire money because they actually desire what they believe the money will afford them.
Go straight for manifesting the root of your desire.
>One of my theories is that high-energy creative people who are passionate about their work have minds of children.
YES. You hit it, and passion, is extremely important, find your passions, find your inexhaustible stream of energy.
>Their neuropathways are wired to just act on the inspirations they get, instead of detaching and analyzing them.
A bit of both is necessary, but (re)maintaining that state of neuroplasticity (rapid childlike change) is very important.
>I managed to rewire my habits to more healthy ones with logical tricks, but rewiring my whole sense of perception to be more present is a different kid of rewiring. How to do it?
One step at a time, one affirmation at a time, literally moment by moment shaping your being into what you desire it to be, in every way.
I would first decide what exactly it is you (the awareness) desire to be (experience), this is the question you really need to ask yourself. It is extremely deep and not as simple a question as it may seem, nor one that could likely be answered in a matter of minuets or even days.
Part of our past programming of being includes may limitations, many we don't even realize we have and until we rout them all out, despite the obvious answer of "unconditional divine love", how exactly that manifests is legion.
>Do I actively punish myself for using my memory, or planning the future?
No, but you don't need to live in ego or be removed from the present moment in majority either.
>Is this the way to rewire myself to only see present?
Practice, as one exercises certain neuropathways they are reinforced.
>I read that 3 African tribes can only perceive the present, and they're completely incompatible with the modern world.
That actually seems to be most of them actually, see the linguistical & behavior analysis in >>>/arcane/3
The problem is they can never not be present, selectively planning/crafting the future can be very advantageous, and is a trait that Aryans have literally evolved to leverage, due to winter mandating it, as opposed to in Africa where it does not exist and they can literally live moment to moment their whole lives without any regard for next month or year.
This is what allows culture and society to thrive, and should not be shunned, merely balanced. The problem is in it's current state it is out of balance in the other way; not being present enough, people often live entirely in the future or worse, the past.
>Where is the Spear of destiny?
I'm curious too.
My intellect says it's probably sequestered under the Vatican, my intuition says otherwise, perhaps south america, but either way I feel it's certainly hidden.
>Are things such as the five elements, chakras, dan tiens, etc. actual metaphysical properties of the universe, or are they only taught to develop a useful mental-framework for interfacing with reality? I'm particularly interested in the elements
The Greek elements are based upon sacred geometry, which you can see manifest in reality at every level including atomic:
The Taoist elements, I can't speak for, they seem quite different and not just the Greek ones with different names.
Regarding the chakras/dan tiens, see >>>/ask/614
Near as I can tell, it's just a useful way of working with the energy, I don't actually suppose we'll get to the actual true form of what is going on until we're being of pure energy.
There really is no law of attraction in hermetics at least
Then you problably don't understand the basics.
Could be possible, I don't know what exactly you're reffering to
What I mean is, by a correct understanding of the Hermetic Laws, you can actually start understanding what some people call "The Law of Attraction".
The problem is that the concept of "Law of Attraction" has been corrupted by the New Age.
It has something to do with polarity?
It's because all there is, is energy.
And that energy is Mind.
Yeah but visualising stuff will not make it happen
Good luck young one.
It will, but you must provide the energy for it to manifest.
I never see you guys talk about judgement so I'm just going to leave this vid here
For many years now I have caught myself suddenly looking at my watch, phone, computerclock or other clock etc. at 1:37. At least two or three times a week. After some research I found that 137 is considered a very magical number. So what is the meaning of this?
It means your mentally/energetically aligned with a certain (band of) frequencies, attracting your consciousness to their corresponding numbers and cycles. That is what is making you look at the clock. What is attributed to these bands of frequencies you can (often) find out by finding out the meaning of the numbers/cycles when it outs itself looking at the clock.
It is usually seen as a good sign, considering your attuning to a certain quality or attribute, most of the time something along the lines of spiritual development. Try to find out if people you know, or on the internet, or anywhere, seem to experience the same synchronicities.
From my experience, its highly context related and most of the time tailored to something personal.
>Just had somewhat of a personal realization and and as an extreme newbie, I wanted to post it here (I originally posted this on 8chan but I think I like it better here) to see if it's correct:
>I've recently been visualizing my surroundings and the immediate rooms around them while meditating. Yesterday, I was meditating and "saw" in my mind's eye a dark figure outside of my door. Typically when I imagine things like this, I can just… stop imagining them, but this thing wouldn't go away.
Sometimes what you imagine is just your mind cohering energy in a certain form, and once you stop (assuming it did not have inertia (e.g. was not a persistent effort over time) it dissipates rather rapidly, however if it had an existence independent of your awareness and you just sensed it then of course you turning your attention away would not remove it from existence.
>The same thing happened again while I was showering, with the presence just outside of my shower curtain. Correct me if I am wrong, but can I scientifically understand that these occurrences are my paranoia, while framing them in a magical belief system?
While I suppose it could be self created thoughtforms I somewhat suspect not.
Regarding paranoia, it can only induce fear in you if you choose to be in that state of being (or if by unawareness you let something else choose for you).
>In other words, can I "defeat" magically what I scientifically know to be paranoia, given a framework of belief in magic?
Elect to vibrate to a consciously chosen emotional state, one independent of what you experience.
>i wonder what STO people think about killing insects. Say I have a lot of fruit flies. Ideally I'd like to remove all insects from my house alive but in practice I can't easily do that.
>So if I see a fruit fly and crush it is that bad/unloving?
There is certainly more STO ways of dealing with them (setting up barriers, magical or physical, or attractors to keep them away) I wouldn't worry too much about it, because the bottom line is, you have the ability to exert your freewill, and all those who lack the awareness to do something about it are fair game.
Obviously you should (as a STO being) use your power to try to maximize the potential of this, the amount of will you would be compromising by bug control is minuscule if any. I've had some success with simply projecting energy shield around myself to keep them away and ascending should be your primary goal, which is an energy mastery thing any how.
>They say that the opposite of love isn't actually hate, but indifference.
The opposite of love is fear, or the lack of love.
>Is loving something the same thing as being polarized […] around what you love and against anything that threatens it?
No, because you can love your enemy (project that energy at them), even as you defend yourself with lethal force.
>I'm going in the woods for a while and I was wondering if there are any rituals or anything that might help me have a encounter with the forest spirits.
Get into a trance state, and ask to meet the spirits that reside there, declare your peaceful intentions and that you desire to commune with them, be still & perceive.
>This is going to sound stupid but how can I make money appear out of thin air?
You would have to be quite advanced at energy work to be able to instantly craft physicality from pure energy instantly. Honestly by the time you could do that you would not need money, you could just poof food or anything else you needed into existence.
And along the way to that level of mastery you would already long be able to manifest all that you needed into your realm by biasing the probabilities (of getting that job, of finding the right person to talk to, etc.)
>Or just one day wake up with $10k in my bank account or something
Possibly, though finding a winning lottery ticket is perhaps more probably than a bank error or using your reality bending powers to bias your chances at the casino.
>What should a Wizard always keep in his kitchen?
>In terms of food, ofc
Organic, of course, fruits, veggies, seeds, nuts, lentils, spices, apple cider vinegar (great for alkalizing), methylsulfonylmethane (aka MSM, great for decalcifying), if you wanna get fancy you could have something to vortex or otherwise geometrically shape your water to revitalize it.
>I've been walking the other day and listening to music envoking positive emotions.
>During the song, I kept grabbing my hands together. I didn't understand why. It just felt comfortable like this, even though I never do that.
Energy flows through the hands (and feet), by keeping them together this flow is built up and concentrated.
>Then I felt something like a charge around my hands. As if air around them was heavier. It's like that feeling you get when you put finger between 2 magnets.
You experienced part of the power of mudras.
>Whatever it is, I've been wondering how can I experiment with it or make use of that. If my body subconsciously wants me to grab my hands together, should I do it, or should I resist it?
I would go with the flow, eventually you shall intellectually learn to discern what the different forms and ways the differing biogeometry effects the energy.
>>But for something as harmless and interesting as allowing your energy to flow easily trough your body, I'd give it a go.
>Thanks but it doesn't help me even the slightest bit. I want to know what is the reason behind this "energy".
That is only the ultimate question, the question of what/why spirit/God is.
>My theory is I'm getting extremely subtle shivers due to emotional high from the song.
Correct, emotional energy is extremely powerful.
>While it's so subtle it's not noticeable
And it's so subtle some go a whole lifetime without this realization.
>it causes the urge to hold my hands together. And if I don't do it, I get the tingling in hands.
You actually would, it just is less intense ergo far subtler and thusly it would be required to be more aware to notice it.
>Now, the question is, how can I utilize that.
It is energy/loosh, like any other, impress it with will and cast it into reality to be/manifest your desires.
>I did read New Energy Ways. Assuming he's talking about the same kind of tingling.
>I suspect our bodies are always trying to set themselves up to balance out some kind of electrical or vibrational tension.
This is often true, and we, in our egoic thinking override our intuition.
>>The full extent of energy work comes when you get to differentiate and identify the energy centers in your body […]
>I'm really tired of this kind of information. Absolutely all progress I've made on my spiritual path were results of very down-to-earth thinking […] it's just too ambiguous to be useful.
I know your feel bro, I was once there as well. The flaw with this approach is you're trying to understand magic, a (w)holistic thing, within a left brained perspective, or pieces perspective. Due to the all encompassing nature of magic it is necessary to look at it in total to really understand.
But I digress, to attempt to bridge the gap I would recommend practicing moving this energy around, willing it to be in one hand, then the other, then in your foot, then in your heart, etc. If you need help visualizing it flowing in addition to feeling it can be helpful. Eventually you will realize that the previously assumed limits where mere perceptorial ones things such as what anon said will make much more sense.
Alternatively you can just jump in and embrace it approaching it from a right brained perspective (though using both are necessary to effectivly wield it).
>It would be better for me to ask whether someone here knows if these cheap polygrafs that measure galvanic skin response are worth anything, or they're scams. And whether they're useful at all to self-evaluate oneself.
I don't know, but in my experience, trying to physically quantify this energy is usually a fruitless endeavor. One can at best, measure the effects of the energy, but I have yet to find a way to measure the energy itself. And such fruits may take some time to become manifest, which really can make it troublesome to get an accurate read with anything save intuition.
>I've had the idea to buy one and experiment with it long ago, then I learned Scientology used to use such device, lol. I guess I wasn't the first one to consider biofeedback for meditation and rituals.
I've heard of such, never seen one IRL though.
>But then, nobody here or anywhere really talks about it. Is it because it's useless, or because people run from tangible spiritual experiments into theoretical philosophical babble
Not really that we run from it but it becomes self evident after a time, and…
You have to take seriously the notion that understand the universe is your personal responsibility, because the only understanding of the universe that will be useful to you is your own understanding. - Terence McKenna
A great teacher never strives to explain her vision; she simply invites you to stand beside her and see it for yourself. - Rev. R. Inman
These things is inherently extremely personal and so personally internalizing it is necessary. Furthermore
Unbelief in one thing springs from blind belief in another. - Georg Christoph Lichtenberg
When belief is tied to ego-based identity, anyone challenging that belief will be perceived by the ego as an attack upon its own existence, and the response can be quite nasty. - Montalk
Sometimes people don't want to hear truth because they don't want their illusions destroyed. - Friedrich Nietzsche
Can limit mundanes from accepting even blatant physical proof. I find it best, when greenpilling people, to simply give energy demonstrations and/or heal them.
So basically to manifest something it has to coincide with your true higher ideals, what are these true higher ideals? Is material wealth or earthly pleasures considered bad or something?
I wonder how much you can actually judge it, to get to the final conclusion that you need to change something you have to have at least a tiny bit of judgement, if it's bad you need to change it, if you recognise it as neutral then what's the point in doing anything?
so is the normal middle pillar ritual bad due to some jewish entities?
Noob number, mine's 13:37
>so is the normal middle pillar ritual bad due to some jewish entities?
Generally anything the jews have interacted with has been perverted. A good example would be how they took the LBRP and turned it into this:
> In this way this befouled ritual can act as an entangling snare. The ritual even it this
weakest of forms gives “some” sense of protection although it is more like a labeling
which says “hands off” this human belongs to some of the most vampiric and truly evil
intelligences in the form of Hebrew deities which are used to “seal” the pentagrams which
are supposed to protect you but only place their mark on you, like you where a lunch
box with powerful names on it saying to most other spirits this is mine to eat not yours. In
return for spreading this magical disease if the form of this LBRP the Hebrew deities
allow high level members of the illuminati the energetic leftovers from their feedings.
Because of this, I'm personally averse to most qaballah (((kaballah))) study material because the jews had their hands on it for so long. As a result, it's on the bottom of my list of things to look at. However, I'll it revisit later with a lot of precaution and discrimination.
Fun fact: on wikipedia there's two separate articles; one for the Hermetic Qabalah and the other for (((Kabbalah)))
What happens when we die? Is there any way to have control over the moments after it happens to get a better outcome?
This, every time.
>So basically to manifest something it has to coincide with your true higher ideals
Not necessarily, people manifest absolutely ridiculous things at times that have no grand meaning whatsoever. Do what thou will.
>I want to buy some books off of amazon since I don't like using my nook.
There are only a few ereaders I like, I have not used a nook, though I can make an assumptions about most of them due to their technology, let me guess, the EMF bothers you? Some of the more high tech ereaders are like that, especially when they started implemented "real" mobile OSs and LCD screens their EMF strength goes way up.
Old devices, especially those that do not actually update the screen unless you flip a page are much better, and only then just power themselves on for 0.2 seconds to do that. While most mobile devices bother me, those are actually just fine. Another added benefit is because they are older, they are cheaper too.
>I know the kybalion is a good one to start with but there are a bunch of versions of it on there so I'm not sure which one to get. Any other recommendations?
The one I have/recommend is in the Neophyte's Gold Library >>>/library/1
>How does one create an egregore and not a tulpa?
In my experience, the defining difference between the two is level of awareness & level of complexity of their soul. There are blurry lines between what exactly they are, but given that a tulpa is lesser on the scale, any thoughtform would pretty much pass through that level to reach egregorhood.
>I've heard from one anon who apparently has experience with both foreign and created spirits that created spirits/tulpas produce emotions that are as strong as yours, whereas foreign ones/egregores (or at least foreign in the sense that it's not a part of your own unconscious mind) can also subtly indicate their feelings and intentions to you.
You can make a thoughtform (even pretulpa level) separate from your soul if you know what you are doing when you start. It's just often most novices, who aren't even neophyte level, yet made tulpas didn't (due to simple ignorance and the path of least resistance).
>I've also read that tulpas will, by default, have access to your thoughts.
Only if you granted access.
>What do you do? Create an energetic body through visualization for the egregore?
>Kinda sounds like what you would do for a servitor–channel intention into something.
Basically the same, just keep pouring energy into it until it reaches desired level of awareness.
>Normies often describe creating tulpas by thinking about them a lot (without pouring loosh into an energetic ball above them). Maybe in so doing this creates a connection at the soul that otherwise wouldn't have happened.
Perhaps through unawareness the connection is made, but by any initiate it should be a trivial matter to discern and avoid (if desired).
>Or is it that giving any idea made from scratch (by you alone) requires your own soul to furnish intelligence?
The intelligence/consciousness in inherent in the energy, in all energy, everywhere. When collected/concentrated to a certain density it becomes self aware, depending on the quality/type of energy determines it's attributes and how. The more energy it has, the more freewill/awareness it posses.
>Obviously, if a bunch of people begin pouring thoughtforce into something, a collective egregore will arise that is not a part of any one person's soul.
Yes, and often in that case it's anchored on a sigil/image/name (like ebola-chan). If you where the sole creator of such you could perhaps use the actual sensation of the energy as the anchor, though the aforementioned will certainly help.
>Does anybody here have some major success with Law of Attraction?
>All these books saying literally all is possible and I don't see anyone claiming they become billionairs this way
I don't desire a bajallion dollars, it is my desire to become completely realized with/as God, to join in active conscious union with all of creation and the force of creation, to help others along the path as I move into that, to be immortal realized in this fleshly form so I can most effectively transcend into my body of light in this lifetime, to bring unity based technology to the world, to aid in the raising of consciousness upon this world in this time, to bring healing and love wheresoever I tread and to be that living proof of the reality of God, that which is the birthright of all.
And to that end, I manifest/attract external circumstances which aid in the furthering of that goal, the increasing awareness of my being, and the ability to heal & illuminate folk along the way. Sometimes that means I have money, sometimes it means I have the things money would afford, but other times I don't need anything but my own being. There have been times in which I didn't have two dimes to rub together, yet I still could enacted tremendous change and healing in the world, and when money was required, it was brought into my life.
All that I required was provided, exactly when I needed it (or right before). I don't worry about things, I just have faith, and hold the love of God in my breast.
>It's always some minor synchronicities in the testimonies. So I'm wondering is there someone here can backup by his experience that it's really exactly like it's presented in the books?
As within, so without. Alter your mind, alter the projection of that energy into the physical. And yes, without a doubt, I have seen the resultant effects of such it my realm.
>did the holocaust happen?
No, or at least not the Jewish one so commonly spoken about. And actually calling it a holocaust is a misnomer too, because that means to be consumed by fire, and the closest thing to that was perpetuated by the allies, thrice. With the (fire) bombing of Dresden (Germany) and also Nagasaki & Hiroshima.
Now that is not to say that folk didn't die in the camps, they did but it was far from intentional or a plan enacted out, it was mainly due to disease and also allied bombing of the supply lines resulting in lack of resources to fight it and also additional starvation.
See also >>>/arcane/175
>I wonder how much the redpill-type "gameplaying" is necessary in relationships.
Ideally, relationships should be founded on spiritual-energetic-emotional-mental bonds, not on fleshly lust, which most are now-a-days, and only occasionally form deeper ties later. It's not uncommon for marriages to not even be that deep, hence the absurd divorce rates…
>Sometimes it seems like I have to pretend to be something I'm not. Like… the last person I liked, I pursued for sexual reasons only at first, having closed my heart/been isolated and thinking "I'll do whatever with this girl and then go find a different one to love" (had had one in mind). Then I fell for her, got hurt in one way, started attracting her with kinda "The Way of the Superior Man"-esque things.
>It didn't work out in the end and I got hurt worse, and I don't know what to do.
Be true to yourself, first and foremost. If you are not, if you use deception, the person they are attracted to will not be the true you, and either you will end up living a lie (which aside from feeling bad is not healthy, mentally or physically) or when you do reveal your true self they will feel shocked or even betrayed.
>Because it seems that I'm supposed to pursue sex and then after a few times of that a relationship develops.
Gee I wonder who says that…
Call me traditionalist, old fashioned, etc. but you should be comfortable with them long before y'all get your knickers tied together.
>But I'd rather have an energetic/romantic bond before that, and maybe that's just because I'm a naive virgin.
That is the way nature intended, the way it's been upheld for millennial, because it works. And no, it's not nativity, it's the call of your inner self.
I, long ago, ignored that as well, instead opting for the way "courtship" is played in contemporary times, and I was, rightfully, turned off. I felt as though if there was not that deep connection I didn't even want the fleshly one, it just left me feeling more empty than before
>Maybe I'm supposed to learn "game" and "attractiveness" and should just sleep with whomever I come across so long as their "spiritual enough" and I'll just make a heart connection with whomever
It is totally possible to have a deep spiritual heart to heart connection with people before sexual bonding and indeed even to folk you have no intention sexing at all. Until you sublimate your lust, the latter can actually feel better as there is nothing but love
>What am I clinging to this idea of sex as something special for?
Sexual union is only the single most sacred thing one can do in the flesh, you're desire to cling to that idea because the core of your being knows this.
>A frame for "how much does all this mundane improvement stuff matter?" The answer seems to be "more than the metaphysical stuff" in terms of sex/relationships
It matters a lot, though I wouldn't go so far as to say more, both are equally important as one is the mutual reflection of the other. Through sexual union is (one way) to immortality, but it must be understood for what it is, not just a ephemeral pleasure button.
>maybe that's just because I don't vibe strongly enough to attract the right people.
That matters, perhaps it's just you are not consistent enough…
>Or maybe I do and I stopped working enough, because I did stop.
…perhaps you just need to remain in that state for more time for it to manifest.
>as some guy, I've had an ideal of romance from a very young age, and I don't really have a clue of how to get it.
Embody your ideal, embody the divine, you will attract that which you set your heart out to. When I spiritually declared myself done with simply fleshly lust based relationships, despite on occasion turning down pussy, in large, what happened was the quality of those who came into my life greatly increased. You are your only limit, be true to your desires anon, and have faith.
After starting simple pre-sleep meditations I have changed suddenly, my dreams are more vivid and easy to remember. I no more have interest in things normies enjoy, these activities feel like wasting time and energy. Seeing and hearing TV/radio makes me feel ill. I am in good mood all day.
After just two days I almost completly control my thoughts during meditation, only thing that bothered me was thoughtforms replaying extremelly annoying 'music' normies listen to, on the second day I found a way to mute them almost instantly, because incinerating them in fire did nothing to them, it also voids thoughts that bother me.
I also spotted a dream symbol that seems important: ruins of bridge in a forest, it relates to what I started I think.
Is this amount of progress satisfying? what more could I do to become better?
Is there really one truth? One truth, that will lead to enlightenment, when experienced and realized?
Is there one, simple thing you can do that leads to Union with God? Is it meditation?
What kind of meditation would be best for this?
How do I Let go by letting go. Realise the enrgy that attracts you and create it within yourself/connect to an archetype/god that allows you to have that at will. that worked for me. Also develop a love/attachment to yourself/soul mb so you an hold youself?
Are there any good reference books for learning astrology?
Hello people please read my question as someone who loves to read tons of books and lores, yet this is my first time actually tring somethin.
i want to evoke lucifer and build a student/teacher relationship with him in the course of self improvement and psychic awakening, but every 'mainstream' occult site has this Lesser Solomon feeling that i must evoke archangels as well first or some shit, or ether have an over complicated 'system' or tools and requirements. (ej build a hug ass altar in a far away desert land).
Is there a better and more practical way to evoke Lu?
Also, what sigil do i use? i have found it 3 so far. are they kinda meaningless and intended only for eh… cultural adaptations or is there a difference?
>only thing that bothered me was thoughtforms replaying extremelly annoying 'music' normies listen to
I can relate to this so strongly, every time I go to the gym and I have to listen to their radio I feel like tearing my fucking ears off to stop the invasive music.
I'd say try building a consistent mental sanctuary/playground to hone all 5 senses as your next goal but what you do is up to you. You could also try superimposing your visualization onto the physical world or just start meditating with your eyes open.
Not to me.
There are no easy ways here anon and everyone has their own truths and what's worse some people try to claim that their system of magic is the only real one which is completely false. Research a bunch of systems, pick one that resonates with you and delve deeper into its practices.
I'm not a satanist so I hope Alpam will answer this in detail but I'd probably look at what demons correspond to the 4 elements and use them in the same manner as in the Golden Dawn ritual. As to evoking Lucifer you could either physically draw a circle and one of his sigils in the middle or do it mentally, tracing the figures using a ritual knife or your finger if you're edgy enough.
After that you say what comes to mind while visualizing the entity appearing within your circle. As to what sigil you use is up to you, use the one that you feel resonates most strongly with Lucifer. Also he may not appear the first time you call him, you may have to utter the same words multiple times before he appears.
>what more could I do to become better?
Write down the time every time you ask yourself this question. After long enough time you'll notice the patterns according to which it arises. Don't judge this thought (wondering how to become better) as bad or as good. Just stay aware of it.
You'll probably have thoughts of expecting that this method will make you better. If they arise, just stay aware of them too. When you wonder how to become better, you're thinking of the future, you're not in the present.
PS: Anger at normies is a thought like any other. You must stay aware of it
(and the thought that getting angry at normies is good or bad is also just a thought).
justanother method of seeing what energies are affecting us all.
so it depends on how much you wnt to know and utilize.
>How do I Let go by letting go. Realise the enrgy that attracts you and create it within yourself/connect to an archetype/god that allows you to have that at will. that worked for me. Also develop a love/attachment to yourself/soul mb so you an hold youself?
Concentrate on the feeling you get from this person. The feeling is caused by a mix of their energy and your reaction to their energy.
So feel that feeling (or one similar that makes you feel good), imagine it's coming from a divine archetype, bring that into you from your back into whatever chakra you want (your heart maybe, if your emotions are heart-based. they are probably also root chakra based, she brings you comfort, you get dependent on that [based on what you said]).
Realise you have potential for all things and that feeling, you can vibe that out into the world, it's a feeling you love, and you can portray that or portray the soul-vibe that attracts that feeling to you in the form of another person.
in addition, focus on yourself astrally.
that is, imagine looking at yourself. This seals up the energy you leak into the person when you think of them.
so when you catch yourself thinking of them, breathe out all that is not-you, breathe in all that is you.
take it easy, take it slow, sustainable effort is the name of the game when it comes to becoming stable in yourself and not needing another person to become that stability. which is what attachment is, at a deep level
Is this a typical /fringe/ poster nowadays?
What's the easiest way to deconstruct subconscious beliefs?
Why does the black sun even have a following? Isn't it a bad symbol?
When meditating, in my mind's eye I see/hear a secondary type of thoughts. It's like there's a dream playing somewhere deep in my head at all times, and sometimes I can observe outlines of it. It consists of random lines of dialogue and random scenes with not much connection. It feels as if my brain had access to movie database of all movies in the world and was presenting me the stream of random 2-3 second cuts.
It reminds me of what I see during shallow sleep, on the edge of being conscious.
Anyone here meditated on that or researched it?
Use a sigil to program yourself to stay mindfull at all times. If you do it properly, from time to time a thought should arise that reminds you to stay mindful. By being mindful of subconscious beliefs, you'll not act on them. If you don't act on them, mind will get rid of them to save space.
If you use a sigil to deconstruct subconscious beliefs, the same thing will happen - you'll start getting reminder to be mindful, so you can use either
>I'm not a satanist so I hope Alpam will answer this in detail
im new to the fringe section of the chans so i dont know the tripsfags, but will stick here in hopes i get your customs.
>Use the one that you feel resonates most strongly with Lucifer. Also he may not appear the first time you call him, you may have to utter the same words multiple times before he appears.
>you could either physically draw a circle and one of his sigils in the middle or do it mentally, tracing the figures using a ritual knife.
Thanks anon, really.
>or your finger if you're edgy enough.
I was almost positive that this was just /pol/ before I saw the URL. This is why we don't help people who talk about "meme magic"
On the other hand, there's nothing wrong with having fun and not taking yourself too seriously.
Advertising this board, however, is a big mistake.
I believe it is a nationalist socialist symbol, which would make sense with the other things that person has posted.
No, that's a disinfo agent whose job it is to discredit.
Most of my dreams feel like daydreaming in reality. I literally dream of me lying and intensively thinking about philosophical ideas (with zero mindfulness I think, it's a dream after all).
Then, I also have dreams of doing mindful meditation… without becoming mindful of the fact I'm dreaming. It's absolutely ridiculous.
And it makes me consider the idea that dreams use the exact same mechanism as not-mindful thinking during the day. The only difference is certain structures are dampened in the dream.
The symbol itself is a sun constricted by saturn, it's a bad thing tb.h
Alright maybe I'm mistaken, so what is it exactly then?
I didn't make this up, but I forgot where I read it. The sun symbolizes the self, Jesus Christ, Osiris, the ego, etc. A black sun represents a person's "soul" tainted by prejudice, hate and fear.
Many natsoc teenage types, especially prevalent in imageboards, see this symbol and think it's edgy and cool. In reality it represents failure as a magician. Failure in the Great Work, also known as transmutiation into gold (also a symbol for the sun) from the point of view of alchemy.
In fact, it's quite the opposite. The sun (gold) turned black, the color of Saturn and lead. Death and the ultimate limitation of the self.
Those seemingly random images are called hypnagogic hallucinations. It's basically the inner dialogue of your subconscious.
With practice you can sort of guide it. Without becoming completelly aware of it (as that will shut it up), think of a person while you observe these hallucinations and you will see/hear something related to them. It's hard, but I think there's potential for divination there (although other methods of divination are much more straightforward).
so the main method of manifestation is impressing your will on the sub-conscious, do you guys do anything else for manifestations? any rituals?
So far what I got from it is it's just important to know what role saturn plays in your life so you don't fuck up, the other planets don't pose a risk and predicting your every day life seems like a boring way to live
can you still channel a god if they have incarnated on earth in human form?
i'd say know what the planets and retrogrades do and that's it.
Yea no need to know everything but I'm sure I could use more knowledghe anyway
why not? I would think they're omnipresent.
I suppose that makes sense.
I guess gods work like the force then, it can be incarnated into a person yet exist everywhere at the same time.
I can't find "The complete book of demonolatry" by S. Connolly anywhere, can someone recommend me an alternative?
Can anyone tell me about Ley Lines?
I'm not sure if it's because, I'm not looking in the right places, but I find it very hard to find any sort of useful information!
What are Ley Lines, do they have anything to do with magic, is it aliens, what are they good for, what does "they do"?
I hope I'm posting this in the right thread, I'm new to this site, so sorry if i chose the wrong place to post.
Do you know this webpage?
It's a site were second hand bookshops from different countries, upload the titles they have in stock and you can (of course) order from there.
Just stick around here, 8/fringe/ has gone to shit and Smiley went way off the rails.
You must be thinking about philosophical ideas a lot in your daily life then anon, that's quite commendable.
The rituals themselves don't matter as much your unshakable belief in them. For example if you chose to use just simple autosuggestion to change your mind in some way like get of anxiety or become more social or whatever, you just have to place yourself in a joyful mindset as if your wish already manifested into reality. Sure it probably won't manifest on your first session of however many minutes but you will make it after faking it.
>The rituals themselves don't matter as much your unshakable belief in them.
I thought of that but don't you have to impress your sub-conscious in some way?
>You must be thinking about philosophical ideas a lot in your daily life then anon, that's quite commendable.
I doubt it's a good thing. Sometimes I wake up from a dream with this weird, unhealthy sense of restlessness. Have you ever experienced something like this? It's an obsessive, feverish feeling. It's usually when I wake up for 10 seconds in the morning hours, before the waking hour, to change position I'm in. After 10 seconds I fall asleep and it's as if I was sliding down into this intensive thinking again. It's something like having a nightmare, except there's nothing scary… just me talking to myself with my thoughts. Expressing something I can never remember to some dummy projection in a light-dream state.
Your reasoning is fair. I'm glad to see that you felt unease associated with archangels and the Lesser Solomon material. This, in combination with your desire to unite with Lucifer, tells me quite something about you. However, you might have more luck by summoning a Demon of Lucifer instead of himself. Here is a list of demons and their corresponding attributes and potential uses (look for the header 'Intellect/wisdom/knowledge): http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/HELP.html
Use the following resources to read on how to actually evoke said demon.
Some things to keep in mind; if you're just starting out and haven't opened your astral senses yet, it might be hard for you to perceive them. Try to pick up subtle clues. Secondly, if you decide to become a Spiritual Satanist, a guardian demon will eventually get assigned to you and greatly assist you in empowering yourself. After all, the goal of Spiritual Satanism is to empower ones self and to attain immortality and Godhood.
>Hello people please read my question as someone who loves to read tons of books and lores
Then definitely read the majority of the http://joyofsatan.org/ site, as its roots are the ancient and original faith of the Gentile races.
>Also, what sigil do i use?
As for Satan, see: http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/Satan.html
>tearing my fucking ears off to stop the invasive music.
I can highly relate to this as well. The patterns and sounds this kinds of music produces are highly obnoxious and probably meant to lower your vibration and keep in you a lulled state of mind, alongside with the mostly mind-numbing mundane lyrics keeping the human race spiritually encased in ZOG's preferred cage.
>physically draw a circle
I don't recommend circles when evoking Satanic beings, this would only prevent a proper evocation as it limits the being being evoked.
Check my post on that -> >>>/ask/223
>im new to the fringe section of the chans so i dont know the tripsfags
I host/own the site, that's why I'm namefagging. It helps when people know fringechan is not abandoned, administration/technical/financial-wise.
Some questions about affirmations:
1.How often and how many times should one perform affirmations for optimum results? I'm worried that I'm being too persistent with some of my affirmations, causing them to not manifest.
2. Would it be more effective to transform the affirmation into a mantra, just as outlined in Liber Null?
3. Does performing affirmations in a gnostic state, such as during or after meditation, increase their efficiency?
4. Should affirmations/mantras be said aloud, or is subvocalization enough?
what do you guys think about this vid?
It seems there are a lot of conflicting opinions on this subject, since a lot of people say that you should in fact strengthen the thought of the thing you want manifesting by visualisation and employing emotion during visualisation
I know this will be a shot in the dark, but do the names "Sungrimoth" (or "Zungrimoth") and "Malazok" mean anything to one of you guys? If so I'd appreciate some sources to look into. Or just any information about them in general.
I've had so many dreams last night. Keeping it short, one was about escaping from some sort of laboratory where they conduct experiments, so i took a bus to some city, next was an operation on my friend, next was me smoking three joints of marijuana. I don't smoke that much in reality, last time was 3 months ago but i only took 2 hits from a joint since im super sensitive.
That aside, i looked it up, the first two were about me having to abandon some old habit or aspect of life that is limiting me. The marijuana smoking denotes me trying to numb some psychological pain, trying to escape from reality.
But the truth is, i've just somewhat cured my self from mild depression with Arcane Formulas. Maybe i haven't really cured my self?
Maybe it's up to me to interpret the dreams instead of a dream dictionary?
From the amazon book page:
>kaballa illustration on the front of the book
>" It even delves into the depths of Demonolatry sex magick, necromancy, blood rites, and blood sacrifice."
It all sounds a little edgy, and thus far seems to have little to do with Satanic Demons as I know.
Then when going through the first few pages of the book:
>""Unfortunately Demon Worship has never been socially acceptable practice"
>"What is Demonolatry? It is quite literally - 'the worship of Demons.'"
Satanic Demons don't want worship - in fact, Satan condemns any form of worship.
>can someone recommend me an alternative?
You will find al you need and more at http://www.joyofsatan.org/
Also refer to my other post(s), like >>1835 for more information.
>Can anyone tell me about Ley Lines?
Ley Lines related to the Earth's natural energy grids.
>what are they good for, what does "they do"?
Read the following resources if you are interested about the topic:
>do they have anything to do with magic, is it aliens
It doesn't seem there is any inherent involvement with aliens in this case.
>I hope I'm posting this in the right thread, I'm new to this site, so sorry if i chose the wrong place to post.
You chose the correct site and thread. Welcome, newfriend.
Where the hell do I go from here? I went over 6 months doing a whole bunch of spiritual stuff (meditating, not masturbating, etc…) but out of nowhere I suddenly fell all the way back down. Now I am back to masturbating twice a day and wasting my days on 4chan's /jp/ board.
Repetition is what gives your sub consciousness a long lasting impression. You won't run to macdonalds after seeing a single ad on goyvision (hopefully), but if you live your life surrounded with ads for junkfood you'd be more inclined to consider it.
It's actually one of the popular techniques of lucid dreaming to wake up a few hours before morning and go back to sleep after a little while. I can only assume that's what's happening in your case.
>Where the hell do I go from here?
up again, down again, again and again, for eternity, until you're stably up
how much do you recommend doing autosuggestion for any desired thing?
Also, more on listening to your body:
There is more wisdom in your body than in your deepest philosophies. - Friedrich Nietzsche
>I have attachment issues. I mean, i never chase after a girl unless i really like her for some reason. Unless i have some sort of attraction. It's indescribable.
I would describe that as the sensation of energetic cords flowing from & pulling your chakras to hers. If one is not sensetive enough to feel this it just feels like a general attraction or desire to be near or touching.
>Love is illogical and doesn't have some purpose, right?
I would say it obeys a higher logic, one not grounded in the physical, so it seems to be illogical. The higher order logic & purpose is that through cultivation of both the yin and the yang qualities of the various sorts of energy one reaches a higher state of being, one closer to the divine.
When one is open to (even if it's on a semiconscious level) moving into that state and another like being enters their reality they start an energy exchange. Now energy is exchanged all the time between all people, but this is a deeper level, as most have highly guarded beings due to the programming of the ego, but I digress. When this happens their consciousness start cultivating each other, one half providing in preponderance what the other is lacking and vise versa.
Now that said, of course this can be done solo, but as I see the path of least resistance to be cultivation with a partner.
>That's nice, but as i said, i have attachment issues.
Attempt to have not expectations of things, or circumstances in which if X does not happen or Y does that you will allow yourself to be upset. Now I know this is a lot easier said than done… But it is nonetheless the ideal state.
Unattached unconditional love.
>It ended 2 months ago, and i still miss her.
And it may take time for you to fully release, transforming one's being rarely happens overnight.
>It ended because of my neediness, and now i would try it again but im afraid
And as long as you let fear rule you, you shall be limited. Release yourself anon.
>How do i let her go?
By realizing what the interactions/circumstances afforded to you allowed you to do (learn X).
>How do i sort out these psychological issues?
Be thankful for that, for any any all opportunities provided. Suffering highlights where growth is to be had. Perhaps, in time you shall be together again, but do not cling to that, embrace the present moment, live life to its fullest.
What you need shall be made manifest in your life, everything, despite the lack of understanding in the moment, is a gateway to something even grander.
>Also, what do you think about Alan Watts?
He's alright. Not that magical from what I've seen, though he does possess some piercing insight.
>He says that we are all already Enlightened, it's just that we don't see it.
In a way that is kind of true, in that our higherselves are, and we are one with it, and so too are we one with God, and we just are not aware of the totality of our being.
>He also says that Meditation is not a path to enlightenment, because when you do anything to be enlightened, you already miss the fact that you already are enlightened.
Er… meditation is the way to become aware of thyself, awareness is key to enlightenment. The above statement is wrong.
>So, you should do nothing. But, trying to do nothing is doing something.
In a way that is correct though. In the stillness is the truth of God to be found. And by acting through the awareness of stillness and unity can great change be effected, in yourself or in the world.
>I agree with Watts. I don't think magic has anything to do with Enlightenment.
Somewhat. You can be quite magical (in terms of power wielded) yet very unenlightened, and through being enlightened one may be able to understand the magical laws, but only through the actual application of such will said power be able to be truly leveraged.
>Then again, it depends on your definition of Enlightenment
I use the one >>>/fringe/197
>If you want to merge with the Godhead, then magic doesn't really do anything.
I disagree, totally. To become one with God one must be able to create as God does, wielding all the tools with the same level of divine clarity and precision as the infinite. The ability to do such is a literal prerequisite to flawless union with the all.
>Magic is just manipulating energies.
Yes, buth are required.
>Are anyone on this board who are familiar with The Universal Gnostic Fellowship?
I've heard the name before once or twice, but I'm not really familiar.
>What causes cannbis anxiety/parsnoia how do i stop it
If I had to guess I would say it's part of the current collective consciousness and the fact exploring one's own being is considered (highly) illegal in many places.
I would either be in a place where you have minimal influences and/or know you are safe. Additional conditioning on your mind would certainly be of benefit as well (e.g. affirmations to that end).
>Besides things like love, you would need money for the majority of things you want in life
No anon, you what one requires is the things money typically allows them to obtain, the necessary things (for most) are food, shelter, etc. these things can be obtained (legally) without money.
Ask and ye shall receive, no, seriously, try it. Smile, remain in love, have faith, be persistent, and if your intuition pulls you somewhere off the beaten path do not be afraid to follow it – you may even surprise yourself at how effective it is. As stands I presently live without money (or extremely minimal amounts) and have been for this whole year thus far. Between barter, trade, and not infrequent gifts, I do well.
>Is there any noted advantage to choking your astral attacker, presumably to death?
In comparison to…?
Personally I would just vibrationally repel them, but if you are STS that won't work and some kind of offense would be needed. I am rather unqualified for advising you on such.
All I can offer is theory, some speculative and some general. The speculative half is, the throat contains the core of expression, if you stifle their ability to declare their will… And in general, and the law states that the one with the stronger will, desire, and/or awareness shall prevail. Either way, let the fires of passion (be they of love or hatred) burn and fuel your drive to manifesting your will.
>I have to admit that quite literally choking the life out of it - like all past attackers - gave me sick pleasure.
You may wish to dive into your being to see why this is. Assuming you are not STS, if so carry on.
>I am now in a 5 days roll of renouncing lust.
Amazing things happen after the first month or two, keep it up.
>So, sometimes i imagine that i´m having sex with a girl of my college. Could this be prejudicial to me in some way?
You are spending time and immense energy focusing upon making reality in which you are imagining.
>Am I sending my loosh to them?
Yes, and this is part of psychic sexual seduction (albeit it depends on their level of consciousness).
>Am I coming closer to this imaginary reality by visualizing it in my third eye?
That's how it works, however because it is a reality which includes another specific being it is subject to their will as well. Generally the path of least resistance involves just doing such in generic as to allow another one manifesting the same align up with you, where as if you pick out a specific person their will may not be in line with yours.
>The thing is, i´m currently in the first practices on Bardons Book.
>Can I start meddling with Godforms already?
If you would like to… Depending on which types you interact with is really the determining factor or if, in my opinion, you should. That said, because you are still just starting out, I wouldn't expect much conscious awareness of their influence until you become more energetically sensitive.
>Do I have the power to summon a Succubus and don´t screw things up?
That… depends on you, I would presume not given what you detailed and also you historic lusty tendencies (and indulging in lust is never good), however maybe you'll find a really loving one and she'll be good for you, who knows.
Do you desire to have something using your loosh? Or do you desire to command all of your energy yourself?
>I have heard that not all Succubi are inherently evil. How do I summon a Good/Neutral one.
*shrugs* Ask the universe.
>I hold the belief that while maintaining celibacy I can ¨throw the energy up¨ and awaken the upper chakras.
That's basically what the Daoists say.
>How could one awaken kundalini?
>How do I stop getting so easily influenced by everything?
Increase, and exert, your awareness.
>It gets so bad that I can't recognize my own personality, my perception of the world and opinions changes, even my own physical appearance changes.
Decide what you desire to be, and then when ever you notice you are not in line with said desire, change yourself in the direction until you embody what you desire.
>I am still influenced without me even realising it.
This is the case on every level, the only difference is to what extent it takes place. For even ascended beings have parts of their being they are not totally aware of, it's just humans have a lot lot more.
The nook I'm using is an older one, so I'm not sure if its emf or what but I can read for 30 minutes or so at a time without it bothering my eyes. I think its more that it just doesn't feel like a book and its hard to keep the lines of text in order. Also it does this weird shit whenever I'm trying to read some real /fringe/ stuff where it will randomly skip around pages and scroll up and down a lot, but when I read something like Koontz or some mundane instructional everything works fine. Maybe my nook is haunted.
Thank You! I'm looking forward to reading about it, looks much "better" than what I found myself : )
Seeking enlightenment, masturbation, opening chakras, browsing /jp/, there's no difference between these activities. All you have to do is to be constantly aware of everything that arises. That's it. If you don't know where you're going or what to do, just stay aware of the thoughts that accompany these feelings. Whatever you feel reading my post here, watch this reaction of yours and be aware of it. Your response, in your head, or written down here, must be watched. If thoughts arise that observing everything like that is bad idea or good idea, just stay aware of these.
>Ask and ye shall receive, no, seriously, try it. Smile, remain in love, have faith, be persistent, and if your intuition pulls you somewhere off the beaten path do not be afraid to follow it – you may even surprise yourself at how effective it is. As stands I presently live without money (or extremely minimal amounts) and have been for this whole year thus far. Between barter, trade, and not infrequent gifts, I do well.
Wondering how to manifest a house to live in… seems like money/skills would help.
Certainly the skills.
What do you think of killing mosquitoes, tiny insects/fruit flies? The former causes harm, the latter annoyance.
i'd read the idea that with unconditional love/
that in higher realms one would /could
choose to be monogamous without expecting their partner to be so.
>Be true to yourself, first and foremost. If you are not, if you use deception, the person they are attracted to will not be the true you, and either you will end up living a lie (which aside from feeling bad is not healthy, mentally or physically) or when you do reveal your true self they will feel shocked or even betrayed.
Yeah. It's not that I was pretending to be something that I'm not, but trying to be something that I want to be but am not yet. Dunno how to be a man, and I've gotten disheartened with changing myself when I didn't get what I wanted externally from it. I did receive a good deal of love, but also a fair deal of "abandonment" from myself and the person I was attracting when I didn't manage to be consistent [somewhat due to going back to live at an energetically suffocating place].
Also, I kind of have to pretend to be something I'm not so I can become that. Like, I'm not good at flirting, being attractive, playing, touching. So I adopt a persona that can be somewhat those things, maybe a little cockier than I might be normally. I don't know what the difference between that and "me" is.
I guess it's fine so long as I wouldn't mind playing that often, so long as I can love that role.
>I, long ago, ignored that as well, instead opting for the way "courtship" is played in contemporary times, and I was, rightfully, turned off. I felt as though if there was not that deep connection I didn't even want the fleshly one, it just left me feeling more empty than before
But I assume you gained valuable flirting skills.
Which I don't have, and feel that that is a fair part of what kept me from being with the person I'd wanted.
Maybe I can try doing that without the emptiness… somehow.
She has emotional barriers that aren't as fully present when she's physically attracted.
I'd tried directly going for her heart, but I wasn't enough at the time I guess.
Partly she held onto her past, partly couldn't see past preconception, partly… I wasn't enough.
What's the end goal of "The Arcane Formulas"?
Is W.W. Atkinson even worth the study?
I see a lot of arguing about him, if not, what's some alternative material?
(Also, who are the ones in my flag, kek?)
Some questions about affirmations:
1.It's a matter of not "lusting for results". If you find yourself obsessing over magical results, you need to find an additional hobby (unrelated to magic) and let manifestation happen on its own terms.
2. There's no definite answer. Find what works best for you. Literaly. Experiment and find out.
3. It is the only time when they are supposed to work.
4. You get out as much as you put in. You don't always need to go all out, but the bigger the impression you make on yourself, the more effective it will be.
Go play a sport or something and take your mind off magic after a spell if you want it to work faster.
Your problems are mundane, not magical. Get your life in order (studies, job, sex life, friendships, family issues, social stuff in general…). When that is sorted out, then you approach magic, not the other way around.
>What's the end goal of "The Arcane Formulas"?
>Is W.W. Atkinson even worth the study?
>what's some alternative material?
Anything serious will always require mastery in the art of dreaming (lucid dreaming, astral projection).
>(Also, who are the ones in my flag, kek?)
poor knowledge of French or pseudo-french
Any book recommendation on both Lucid Dreaming and Astral Projection?
Any material and technique is fine. The mere intent can be powerful enough. It's a natural ability, there is nothing 'special' about it.
>>(Also, who are the ones in my flag, kek?)
>poor knowledge of French or pseudo-french
Literally: Anonymous without frontiers, or more accurately Anonymous without boarders, a play on Militaires Sans Frontières from MGS.
Check PDF's attached, here is a HTML version of the second PDF: http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/astral_dynamics/astral_dynamics.htm (much easier to read and on the eyes)
They are both about astral projection and not lucid dreaming, though they are very comprehensive and go about every detail - you won't miss anything.
Important is to know that your energy body should be somewhat operational if you want an efficient temporary departure from your body. You will effectively create an energetic vehicle for you to enter and navigate the astral with, temporarily transferring (part) of your consciousness to said body/vehicle, or what the author of the PDF's I linked calls the "mind split", hence having a basis in energy work being quite essential.
I also skimmed through the PDF's >>1855 linked, though they both make no direct reference to the importance of the energy work as a foundation, considering the mechanical workings of astral projection. Don't get me wrong however, the PDF's in anon's post seem reasonable as well, especially the 66 techniques one even though it lacks mentioning the mechanical core. Imho, its not so much about the projection method, but rather having a proper functioning energy body.
It's a pretty low energy pathway to manifestation but it's good for internal changes. I would rather evoke entities or create thoughtforms for anything complex.
How to unconditional love?
Isn't this also subject to the laws of rhythm? It's something i don't get, if we can mentally transmute one mental state to another, why even mention Rhythm? The pendulum goes from love to hate, but if you transmute hate to love, it's like you destroyed the action of Rhythm, which was stated as unstoppable and indestructible.
Learn bhakti yoga
My resources on bhakti, haven't read the books yet, but in "audio" folder you have lectures on Narada Bhakti Sutra and in "notes" you have notes corresponding to each lecture. Haven't gone through the full course yet, but the first 3 or so lectures were pretty cool.
And regarding your question about the law of Rhythm - I've never really cared about the hermetic laws, just read Kybalion and Arcane Teachings and went on my own way, so my view isn't the "official hermetic™ view" but just my personal opinion.
When you realize your true self (so called higher self, atman etc.) then you can act according to your own will.
Also, wasn't there in Kybalion or Arcane Teachings something about raising above the swing of pendulum and not being swept along with it?
I think that unconditional love can't be directed at anything "earthly" (for the lack of better word), because anything "earthly" is, to some extent, "contaminated" (again, for the lack of better word) with your own desires and no matter how pure your love, for example, for a person is, it isn't unconditional. It's explained nicely in the intro to the course or in the first lecture.
>Also, wasn't there in Kybalion something about rising above the swing of the pendulum
Bingo. It's in Arcane Formulas. That's what i've been trying for like 2 months now and i feel like it would make it so much easier to deal with emotions, problems, etc. but i just can't get it. Sometimes i think i do, but i get swept by the pendulum again. I realize i am not the personality, that i am Will and Awareness, but i don't feel the power and control over my emotions.
Furthermore, if i say that i am not the personality, isn't this the personality saying it is not the personality? The mind saying it is not the mind? When one says, i am not the personality, and becomes calm, who is it that became calm and is not the personality? This is the persona. When one says, i am not my thoughts, isn't this the mind saying it is not the mind?
Maybe what you need is practice? Do you meditate?
Indeed, you are right. That's why what you need is not just saying to yourself that you are not personality etc. but actually realizing this. It can happen spontaneously, but the easiest method for making this happen would be in meditation. That's how I and many others came to this realization.
Also, just saying with your mind that you are not your mind actually promotes this change in consciousness, so it's not totally without it's merit.
Posting the intro notes to the course on bhakti if you are interested in unconditional love.
Well, i inquired for unconditional love because i didn't think Egohood is that easy to achieve so maybe i needed something else.
About meditation, yes, i've started meditating but the problem is i don't know what to do. I easliy paralyze my body, to the point i don't know where it's borders are, also i feel light, etc.
What do i do next to get this realization? If i needed to still my body to detach from it, perhaps i need to still my emotions and thoughts?
Oh, I thought you were genuinely interested in unconditional love. That is a rarity indeed.
Try observing your thoughts and emotions without any attachment to them. Don't try to silence them, just observe them come and go without affecting you. Then, inquire who you are, who is observing your thoughts?
You may want to research such techniques as Vipassana, which is basically what I wrote - meditation of observation, but maybe you will find it explained more clearly.
I'm afraid I may not be the best person to help you - simply because I've had it far too easy to control and disattach myself from thoughts and emotions to know the struggle. Maybe I had a harder time with this in previous incarnations.
Doesn't matter, i appreciate the insight, thanks
I would also suggest invoking various feelings and basically just playing around with it.
Maybe other anons will have some better ideas, but for me meditations (both vipassana and silencing thoughts) and just being in this state of no-mind did the trick.
what do you have in mind as "complex"?
And also, there are many people saying that Atkinson is garbage-tier (me included). If I were you I wouldn't focus too much on his works, just get the general idea from Kybalion and the Arcane Teaching/Formulas and find something else to study.
I am already aware of how bad the act of mastubating is, but how about sex in general?
I have a girlfriend, and I don't see us doing "Sex Magic" at least for now… Is sex with the opposite genre also bad?
I don't think so. Following my intuition on this, is kissing your girlfriend bad? No, of course not, it's just an expression of love. If you love someone and she loves you back that is energy reciprocated, right?
Same with sex, only sex is energy exchange at a much more deep and intimate level. But the important thing is to do it out of love. If you do it for physical pleasure, it's bad - Christians would call it Lust. As Montalk would put it, it's merely for your own purpose, it is STS polarity, while on the other hand, if you have Love, then you give energy which is given back. Emotional attachment is what makes sex an actual sacred act between two people. I've heard it's way better with Love. It is funny, i am talking about something i have never experienced, but it does make a lot of sense.
>implying sex with the same gender is bad
>sex with the opposite genre
I wonder what genre I am, and what genres are opposite. Horror and Comedy (movies, plays, books) would probably be opposite genres.
Punk and Church music?
>How to unconditional love?
I dunno, but as for bhakti, what I tried to do was always beam a "weak"/stable (the strength that one could uphold all day), detached, magnanimous love, in all actions, as if devoted to x. Whether x is higher self of someone, or god, or what-have-you.
So clean with love in your heart, wake and open your heart, exercise with love. Etc.
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Hay guys I need some help.
I've herd of something called the akashic records and would like to first of know is it real?
If so what dose it in tale such as is it just your past and future or is it the universes or is it just a record of people and animals past experiences?
How dose one use it / access it?
If not any recommendations for speeding up the development of skills understanding them and the scope of there use besides just trial and error?
Also what's a good method for practicing physical skills fast but with out having to physical practicing them?
Is it also possible to become a conduit for high amp and voltages of electricity at will with out becoming kill or needing to be connected to a power source like a power outlet?
Also so is this possible to control other things like air water and fire?
How would you do this?
Thanks in advance /fringe/
Tired of fapping away my loosh to pornography. Any advice on how you guys conquered your lust?
Hey. You sound like a very knowledgable anon. I'm merely just getting started with these things but I'm a massive hedonist and I just don't fucking feel good enough. The pleasure I give to my partners and the pleasure I receive, there is a mountain of difference between them. I DO love giving pleasure, but I want to feel good too. I had had this Multi-Orgasmic Man book for a while but never really read much of it other than skimming through. I really want to believe it works but is it really, definitely real and does it really, absolutely, definitely work and can I have multiple orgasms as a man and not feel drained but instead, rejuvenated by them? This is a thing of great importance to me and I think if used properly, could REALLY kickstart my magick career. Thanks a lot for the response in advance. Have a great one.
Treating severe diseases or if I had tried to regrow my limbs I'd use just about everything I know, not just autosuggestion. I've also found that anything that relates other people doesn't happen just from autosuggestion.
>I've herd of something called the akashic records and would like to first of know is it real?
About as real as your mind but far more real than your grammar.
As far as I know you can see just about everything possible there, this includes past and possible futures.
>How dose one use it / access it?
Astral project and will yourself there.
>Also what's a good method for practicing physical skills fast but with out having to physical practicing them?
Do you mean exceeding your physical abilities? There's been stories of people doing crazy shit under adrenaline like moving cars around so I'd say learn how to infuse your body with the fire element with the intent of forcing your body into pumping adrenaline into your blood.
>Is it also possible to become a conduit for high amp and voltages of electricity at will with out becoming kill or needing to be connected to a power source like a power outlet?
Some people reported being able to affect electrical appliances like street light with their will but I don't remember anyone trying to put a fork into a powerpoint and telling us about it.
>Also so is this possible to control other things like air water and fire? How would you do this?
Personally I've used the air element to summon gusts of wind. Book of Knowledge I think has a method where a wizard has so much faith into his will manifesting that he can instantaneously change the weather without screwing with the elements.
>I've also found that anything that relates other people doesn't happen just from autosuggestion.
you mean influencing others? I'm not sure why it wouldn't happen since autosuggestion is just a slower way to impress your subconscious than a direct ritual
You're correct but if for example someone tried to autosuggest "I am a very lovable person", the change in how people treat him won't be immediate.
My neighbor has 2 big dogs that bark all the time. They stick them outside for long periods of every day and just let them bark. I can also hear them bark inside their house. Our houses are very close together and this disrupts my peace of mind and disrupts my attempts at meditation. Moving isn't an option since I'm not renting, I didn't know the neighbors dogs would be this annoying when we got the house and it was a good deal. I have spoken to the man 3 times already about it. I have bought one of those boxes that emits high pitched sounds that only dogs can hear, triggered by their barking, and that worked great at first but then they became immune to it. I don't want to call the cops and then forever have to deal with that, our houses are too close together to want to have a neighbor that is looking for revenge. I don't want to hurt the dogs either as much as they drive me insane. So what can I do? Is there some kind of animal charming I can learn to make them be quiet? A certain way to word a sigil? Some kind of influence I can send to the neighbor to treat his dogs better? Animals usually love me, but these dogs are set off by everything. Its been 6 months and they still snarl and slam into the fence everytime I step into my back yard. Its very strange. Pretty mundane problem but mundane solutions have failed so I need to take it up a notch.
has there ever been a recorded case of a person regrowing his limbs?
how do you guys know if you've been cursed and how do you remove curses? this shit is especially troubling to me because it seems like you have to do an actual ritual for once for the curse to be removed unlike manifestation where you can use emotion and visualisation
Is it possible to evade karma?
get some ear plugs…
or possibly even play some static through them to further muffle the sounds
I'm not going to wear ear plugs for 6 or more hours a day. You really are special aren't you?
There is a saying that if you change your perspective the whole world changes
I tried to distance myself from bad events in the world, I stopped visiting /pol/ and visited it only a few times since solely out of habit
Is not knowing what is going on in the world actually to my benefit? Is it just a method of "ignorance is bliss" or is there something more to it? Does my perspective really have an impact on the world?
His dogs bark for 6 hours? Go complain to a HOA or something. That's ridiculous.
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Sometimes more, sometimes less. Sometimes its sporadic but all throughout the day and night. The dogs are outside most of the day. I have been wary of getting any authorities involved since the only thing separating our houses is a driveway and I don't want him retaliating over it.
read it and practice it you fool.
The answer is yes.
I might not be getting something, but it's pretty clear that to manifest something you need to use emotion and visualisation, so obviously you imagine how happy you are when you are at your desired outcome, I don't see how it's possible to be neutral about it, automatically happy = good
Not that I'm aware of but then again ESP and remote viewing hasn't been officially proven either.
Not very convincing but I guess one word is better than nothing. Thanks anyway.
- Threefold Law
- Law of Return
- New-Age Karma
These, like many other beliefs in the new-age ecosphere and neo-wiccan/neo-pagan culture, are corruptions of pre-existing, ancient concepts. Toxic thoughtforms, designed to ensnare you within self-restraining constrictions. The user willingly swallowing poison, voluntarily shackling himself simply by subscribing to these belief systems. Actively manifesting undesired outcomes by solely inviting these curses. Because that's what these are; curses. Energy is steered by will, meaning that other beings can return you a favor or avenge any damage done, but this is not predetermined in one way or another. Its solely determined by will.
>Is it possible to evade karma?
Banish the above thought forms from your reality. Stop letting them affect you; don't power them, unsubscribe your belief to them. In the end, these thought forms were conceived by nefarious beings trying to trap us, by making us passive and not resist oppression, by not taking matters in our own hands. Thus, the inherent design of these thought forms (and plenty others - but that is outside of the scope of this reply) is nothing but of malicious mean. The more people that believe in them, the greater effect they will impose on our reality.
That said, that's not to say to be a dick to everyone. You still are an altruistic being, and (senselessly) damaging others leads to inherent degeneration of the self.
May I ask, what is it that you need to do, or have done, that you feel like you need to avoid said karma for? Because I see people worrying about 'karma' for evoking succubi, casting love spells, manifesting money and other completely normal things. Don't worry about these, you are free to do so. There's no astral police out there to slap your butt. Unless you ask them to come over, by subscribing to 'karma'..
>May I ask, what is it that you need to do, or have done, that you feel like you need to avoid said karma for?
nothing for now, just curious, but considering the law of return, isn't it true that what you put out there returns to you? The reason I believe it is because things manifest from what you put out there and they return to you in a physical form
>That said, that's not to say to be a dick to everyone. You still are an altruistic being, and (senselessly) damaging others leads to inherent degeneration of the self.
your playing by your own rules.
Anyone have an idea if this site has any true occult basis or if it's just crazy shit
it seems like a lot of psycho babble to me.
fuck off with this /x/ bullshit
>law of return
new age bullshit
Karma is just cause and effect. Nothing can escape law of karma, but it's true that in some cases you can get away with hurting others and not having any repercussions.
For example if someone killed you in your previous life and wasn't punished for this then, would you kill their current incarnation, you wouldn't create more karma for yourself.
Another way is to cut ties with the act. Some say that our attachment (especially emotions) to the act create karma, not the act itself. What is meant is that by, for example, dwelling in negativity and hurting other people would in return cause harm to you (as you would act like a magnet for negativity). On the other hand if you would completely disattach from the act of hurting other people you would suffer no (or at least far less) karmic backlash.
Indeed, there are people, so called psychopaths, who can commit terrible atrocities without batting an eye. Maybe, they are there to balance out karmic debts? Who would be better suited for the job than a person who, with their murderous acts, doesn't create karmic debts?
Or so I've heard.
I don't know, it's just some theories I've seen in some books. I was never interested much in mechanics of karma, so I don't know if it's true or not. I confess - this notion certainly has it's appeal to me, but I'm afraid it's bullshit.
I can check in tantras and other Hindu scriptures for an answer, but right now I have other matters to attend to.
Or maybe some Buddhist can give us their perspective - isn't it true that no attachments = no karma?
In breathing, yogis call it Prana. Bardon calls it Electromagnetic Fluid. There is also the Chi Energy, the Vital Force, the Mana, or the Mind Power.
My question is, are they all the same energy presenting themselfs by diferent terms, or are they diferent energies used for diferent things but coming from the same source of energy?
I'm not saying the sites magic or too be investigated. I'm just asking if there is a legitimate deeper meaning behind the whats wrote.
I know too little about systems using different energy than prana (and maybe about prana as well) to answer this question. I wondered about that too. There are some differences between characteristics of these energies leading me to believe that they are not identical (or that this energy is not something "objective" - i.e. depending on the system used it has different characteristics).
For example in Taoist practice there is yin and yang chi and this division is something absent in prana. But, prana originates in Hindu scriptures and there (especially in tantras) the accent is on non-duality. For example, in Western occultism there are male and female aspects too (fire and water), male (fire) being active and female (water) being passive but in Tantra it is seemingly reversed - Shiva (depicted as male god) is passive and Shakti (depicted as female goddess) is active. Of course Shiva and Shakti are essentially in unity. But male/female doesn't translate directly into Shiva/Shakti. Shiva is formless consciousness (without any characteristics) and Shakti is consciousness in form (also, in potentiality - power), thus Shiva is neither male nor female and both male/female belong to the sphere of Shakti (along with everything else - Action, Will, Knowledge etc.).
I wouldn't be surprised if the same would go for yin and yang chi, being unified in one current - prana. But that's just my personal opinion (more like speculation) as I don't know much about chi. It may very well be a completely different energy.
Also, from Tantrik perspective - all energy is Shakti, be it prana, chi, vril etc.
I believe that certain energies are in fact different - compare loosh to prana, loosh being only the emotive power, prana being the life-sustaining force.
so to answer the question
>are they all the same energy presenting themselfs by diferent terms, or are they diferent energies used for diferent things but coming from the same source of energy?
I'd say that certain energies are in fact the same, just under different names, while others are different. Nevertheless it depends on what level are we considering these energies - on some level there is always some unifying principle.
The fact that we can only subjectively describe these energies doesn't help either.
Also, there is a multitude of different energies as everything is energy.
In fact, the more I think of it, the more I'm convinced that all those energy systems are just tools - that there is some one, nameless cosmic energy-field, and various systems aren't "the truth" but more like a guideline to harnessing this one cosmic energy. The prana doesn't exist, chi doesn't exist etc. They don't exist as a thing in themselves, but rather as a tool for practitioner to get in touch with this energy-field. This would explain the differences, but then again - it's just my speculation.
Could you elaborate?
>Prana and Vril are just vague broad terms.
>proceeds to write vague broad post
Also, can't speak for vril, but prana is well defined and certainly not a vague term.
As for it being broad - what do you expect from something which is a universal life force? It is broad and it's applications are broad too. And if you mean that the usage of prana in various scriptures is somewhat blurred - what do you expect after over 3000 years of prana being studied in the East?
Quite frequently I see and feel like the world was melting, or was just a rubber membrane collapsing under itself, it lasts for very short periods of time, about 1/3 second. It happens about once a week, sometimes every two weeks. What could it be, is it just a normal hallucination? During meditation I frequently work on third eye.
And deja vu, after a meeting with large group of people known to me, that lasted for four days, they all had intense and often deja vu. This seems quite interesting to me.
I also have success with attracting small events, like getting hidden random number generation to output what I want, Seems also that it is true that after visualising the desired it should be forgotten, thinking about it interrupts the process.
>getting hidden random number generation to output what I want
I've been getting pretty good at that myself. Practicing it while playing WoW and rolling for loot when in a party, I got 30 in a row the other night, across multiple group instances. I had to tone it down so people wouldn't think I was cheating.
>is a grave mistake and stems from narrow-minded armchair 'occultism'.
And again, people make assumptions about me despite not knowing anything about me or my practice. It's getting boring.
Okay, now when we have ad hominem behind us lets go to the actual arguments.
I haven't said anything about
>Jing - Nadi
>Shen - Bindu
I wrote that if chi is equal to prana, then yin and yang chi are something which doesn't have it's equivalent in prana.
>I wouldn't be surprised if the same would go for yin and yang chi, being unified in one current - prana.
Which you yourself confirm in your post
>Chi - Prana
Furthermore, you didn't specify why you consider prana to be vague and broad. Also, in prana system you have five "winds" in the body.
>Jing - Nadi
Also, from what I can tell - Jing is some kind of energy, right? Nadi is a pathway for energy, not some distinct kind of energy (of course counting out the fact that everything is energy). Bindu is also not energy.
>Go study for yourself.
After some time of breathing, my throat gets sore on the exhalation. I've done a research on throat pain while meditating and found something about blocked chakras. What can it be considering it does not happen when I hum on the exhalation?
>In fact, the more I think of it, the more I'm convinced that all those energy systems are just tools - that there is some one, nameless cosmic energy-field, and various systems aren't "the truth" but more like a guideline to harnessing this one cosmic energy. The prana doesn't exist, chi doesn't exist etc. They don't exist as a thing in themselves, but rather as a tool for practitioner to get in touch with this energy-field. This would explain the differences, but then again - it's just my speculation.
This. This is what I have been thinking all along!
Thank you for pointing out some interesting facts.
learn symbols learn what ALL the occult symbology means. Ah dot is the representation of a soul. Did you know that reader? Everything means something even the lines.
Yeah, I did, that's one of interpretations of Bindu.
Does anyone else here use their emotions to make a living by creating anything? I can only have so much emotions in a day, which is really restraining me. I want to work on my stuff most of the day, but after a few hours my dopamine and serotonin must be all depleted. At some point music becomes boring and I feel mental fog. I stop giving a fuck, and browse memes, reddit, or binge watch mindless shit for all day, feeling like I could die right now and it'd be fine. After some time or a sleep, at the morning I start working like a madman. It's like there are 2 of me: the high-energy inspired one, and one who gave up on everything.
I use the following methods to rejunevate. I'm writing this stuff here with hope you share your methods too. Or perhaps you know some tricks of creative workers from the past?
- 8 hour sleep (the best)
- cold shower (powerful)
- yerba mate with green tea (powerful)
- red lentils with curcumin and pepper (powerful)
- limiting fap to once/twice a month (average)
- no thought meditation for half an hour (average)
- exercise (shitty)
- nap during the day (shitty)
I feel like certain food combinations, like lentils, could be the key, but I get contradictory results with the same meals. Sometimes they rejunevate me, sometimes they make me lazy. I eat healthy all the time, but I wish my body would tell me when does it need what type of food.
I just wanted to add, the reason I don't mention any drugs except yerba and green tea is that for literally everything else I've tried, I have to pay later 2x as much. For example, coffee or microdosing LSD fucks up the baseline mood and energy, and in the end you're not gaining anything. Properly prepared mixtures made of yerba with green tea, curcumin, pepper and spirulina affect emotional state by like 20% by eg. making music sound better, and you can sip on it like every second day and you never get tolerance or fucked up baseline
lamb of god all of it. be humbled my son. ghost walking if we wanna get specific.
1, 2, 3
Do you remember when word was bond, a fleeting promise in the light of the dawn.
Barren December under a falling sky, the end of days and a reason to die.
Obliteration never looked so divine.
Holding your breath for the moment in time
You lived through hell, now you're trying to die
The skin is healed but you're bleeding inside
Shots fired just to numb the pain
There's no one left to save
Night blind on the shining path
Ghost walking in the aftermath
Hypnotized, 60 cycle hum
The broken cadence of a distant drum
21 to 1 I'm liking the odds
A blood junkie with a lightning rod
A dirty rig and a heavenly nod
And still you wind up nowhere
Obliteration never looked so divine
Holding your breath for the moment in time
>>1917 think wester esoteric.
This is not a question, and neither does it seem to be a response to a question. Take it to >>>/loosh/ – don't post this here (or the music thread considering the content?). Yes, this is a warning.
Much better metal bands have had lyrics related to esotericism than lamb of god, this is babby's first metal band
how much influence do other people's thoughts have over your life?
You aren't concerned about the heavy fluoride content in tea?
any adivec for starting astral projection? is the robert bruce book what i should use maybe?
hi anon. i was trying to respond to this
also this anon>>3829
I wanted to make the point out that all metal
seems to pull inspiration from jachin. I
should have just said that. I also just
really like the band. I respect the rules i
am just kinda dumb. I post too quickly.
meditate. imagine what your higher self looks like. Keep something important by your bed. go to sleep. some claim they can do this awake.
outside of spirits merely masquerading as the dead why is necromancy considered bad?
>how much influence do other people's thoughts have over your life?
Your question is a bit too general but I will try to answer it as broadly as possible.
Generally it depends on the nature of the thoughts themselves. Consider what actions you've learned that your thoughts can cause and remember that mundane or not, people can tap into that realm of power without knowing it. Focusing on someone and sending negativity may manifest in a multitude of ways and can have various affects if they don't know what they're really doing. Remember that we're not directly in control of people because of free will. But exerting force(s) onto others can act as a type of influence. The way I would explain this is showcased in Robert Bruce's Practical Psychic Self-Defense.
See the library under this directory: fringe books & files package\Robert Bruce\Robert Bruce - Practical Psychic Self-Defense.pdf
Although its focus is on negative entities, in some cases someone's desire to hurt you can cause negative entities to come at you at the behest of your tormenter.
I have a feeling I'm explaining this incorrectly or at least partially incorrect but I am sure I've read this scenario somewhere. But even if I explained that wrong I stand by Robert Bruce's book of self-defense. It's exactly the type of book I was hoping to find when I first started all of this and I consider it an extremely important read.
>You aren't concerned about the heavy fluoride content in tea?
Fluoride is just one of very many real dangers, anon. It's mentioned often because it grew to become a popular meme, not because it's worse than other stuff you could find in your food every day. We're so far gone in the corporate disinformation, that some fluoride in white tea is the least of our problems. And if I had 3000 $, first thing I'd do would be to buy proper filter for water.
I was invited to initiate on the DeMolay order.
I don't know anything about the order, what should i expect?
What would you guys think that should be the first three abilities/skills a wizard should train before anything else?
Also, requesting Indigo Pill material aimed at a completly newb.
Relaxation, meditation, energy work.
i meant while meditating you autist
>three abilities/skills a wizard should train before anything else?
emotional alchemy, meditation, lucid dreaming
>requesting Indigo Pill material
You have a whole board full of materials and you're still waiting to be spoonfed?
There is no "indigo pill" canon. Well, there is (check out the pills thread) but I've read maybe 2-3 books from it (read a few pages from the rest of them and decided it wasn't for me) and still post with an indigo pill flag. Moreover, some books in there I am against and would not recommend them to anyone, because I don't like Jewish/Christian entities and they work with them.
It's not about what books you read, but how you use the knowledge.
Also, don't become too attached to the pill meme. It's just another label.
Check out AstralPulse forums.
When it comes to Robert Bruce I don't really know whether to recommend him or not.
You see - energy work is not necessary for astral projection. I didn't need it to project, others did not too. Monroe, who was first in the modern West to speak openly about his OOBE experiences didn't do any energy work.
On the other hand - I know that energy work is important generally, even if it's not a per-requisite for projection.
So, if I were you I'd check Astral Pulse forums and maybe a small pdf called Phasing Primer, both are quite mundane, nevertheless the techniques work.
Also, can someone maybe explain to me, why almost everyone here recommends energy work as a per-requisite for astral projection, while it is quite easy to do it without it? I'm just a bit curious.
What can I read to know more about emotional alchemy?
I agree with the three abilities but as a side note I want to add that a starting wizard should develop a fairly solid moral ground to stand on. While I certainly believe that emotional alchemy is important, crafting yourself into the ideal version of your person is an equally important thing. If you're getting into magick because you have a list of people from highschool that bullied you and you want to curse them, your spiritual progress will probably stop around about silencing your mind. Cultivate positive character qualities.
I believe Kybalion and the Arcane Teaching had something about the subject, but I didn't learn it from the books but rather learned it by myself even before I started on the occult path so I'm not the best person to recommend you something to read.
>starting wizard should develop a fairly solid moral ground to stand on
Morality is something subjective. I don't really see a point in dabbling with ethics, do what thou wilt and all that good stuff.
Also, morality is something evolving our entire lives, not to mention that one can be an accomplished magician while not being very concerned with it.
>crafting yourself into the ideal version of your person is an equally important thing
Agreed, but that doesn't imply ethics. Or, should I say, an ideal version of yourself may not necessarily be "moral" judging by others.
>your spiritual progress will probably stop around about silencing your mind
It depends. I wrote some posts above how one can possibly (at this point it's just speculations) minimize creation of karma even doing cruel things to others.
Also, indigo pilled neophyte wasn't asking about spirituality, but rather about magic.
>Cultivate positive character qualities.
Or don't. It doesn't matter too much in my opinion. Positive qualities still bind you further to the physical though.
Good and evil are also just labels, one can transcend them. Not to mention that there are purely LHP organizations out there.
So, to sum up - I don't believe that ethics should play vital role in the progress and one certainly can become powerful without them. Seeing how that poster is interested in indigo pill mentality I'd guess they don't care about morality either.
For me spiritual progress isn't directly linked to the side I currently play on - good vs evil and all that stuff, but rather my ability to choose neither and transcend them.
You can do cruel acts, you can hurt people. How bad karma is worse than good karma? It's still the same thing, more bondage, so I thoroughly disagree that
>your spiritual progress will probably stop around about silencing your mind
What is Unconditional Love actually? Someone directed me to Bhakti Yoga but it said a bunch of stuff about deity worship and a lot of eastern terminology that's hard to wrap my head around.
One guess is that unconditional love doesn't even need an object, since it is unconditional. But if it is not directed at anything, how can it be even defined?
I'm confident energy work has no real purpose. Perhaps you could heal your wound 20% faster after a few years of training. Awareness meditation would be the time better spent. It has tangible effects. Also, doing anything that requires intuitive no-thought "flow" state.
Maybe energy work is good for the types who have brain wired in special way. If you don't do it since childhood, then I'd say there's no use for you to begin dealing with this shit
It was me who posted these materials. I also posted an intro to the course, have you read it? It's explained there >>1864
>One guess is that unconditional love doesn't even need an object
>a bunch of stuff about deity worship
Unconditional love cannot be directed at anything from this physical world, since to any object of your love you have also attached your desires, no matter how pure that love is so it would not be unconditional. Unless you are already enlightened of course. That's why in bhakti yoga practices you direct love at some God.
I guess you wouldn't need an object for that, but who would be able to love nothing with all his self?
>a lot of eastern terminology
The terminology is explained, it's not like anyone wants you to know Sanskrit to benefit from this. All I can say is once you get used to it, it won't be a problem.
Well, I wouldn't go so far as to state that it's useless, but I was able to do many things without energy work.
>Maybe energy work is good for the types who have brain wired in special way.
Yeah, I thought about that too, but isn't energy a basis for everything?
With that being said - I don't feel a need to do any energy work, and even when I was doing it I didn't really get me much benefits.
Just wanted to hear someone else's opinion. Normally, for example with chakras, visualizations suffice for me, but my visualizations have always been extremely vivid.
I can visualize energy and with good effects, but I don't really quite *feel* it (apart from certain situations like for example AP exit), like described in Bruce's books. Despite that, it has never been a problem.
Directing love at any god won't change anything. It would be the exact same thing as love for anything else. It's love with an agenda kept in mind. Even if unconscious.
Case closed then. A two thousand years old branch of yoga proved ineffective by some anonymous guy on an esoteric imageboard.
You don't understand the concept of bhakti, read the pdf I posted (it's only 2 pages).
>Bhakti, in its highest form, referred to as “parama prema” (supreme love), transcends love; it is limitless and infinite love. No matter how intense the conventional love is, it’s not bhakti. Love, either physical or emotional, is based on a sense of incompleteness, a sense of need, however little that need may be. Bhakti, on the other hand, transcends the mind. It relates to one’s true self, which is sat-cit-ananda (eternal, unlimited, consciousness). This bhakti is called “para bhakti”.
>Para bhakti is not something you can practice because in reality it is the goal or the point of arrival. Para bhakti is enlightenment!
>but I was able to do many things without energy work.
For example? Everybody who talks about energy work always talk vaguely about it, including Bruce.
If you stop your thoughts and enter flow state in the area you're skilled in, entities, information, music, ideas will start appearing out of nowhere. You can just tell this path works. Almost anybody can reproduce its effects.
But if you do energy work…??? I don't know, you can make your forehead or big toe tingle at will? You digest food 20% faster (maybe at the cost of the lost nutrients?). I just don't get why one should deal with it. I suspect the energy work and chakras are artifacts from the past when people were way more sensitive to their bodies. And even then, only some specific bloodlines had bodies and brains wired to utilize energy work.
>Everybody who talks about energy work
I just wrote that I make do WITHOUT energy work just fine.
>chakras are artifacts
Chakras aren't there arbitrarily. One creates chakras. In tantras, from where the concept originates, all practices with chakras were formulated in a prescriptive way, not descriptive - i.e. "visualize an eight petaled lotus in the center of the forehead" etc.
It's all semantics. It's difficult to communicate about any of this using language.
>Para bhakti is not something you can practice because in reality it is the goal or the point of arrival.
Word 'goal' or 'point of arrival' implies there's some desired mind state or point in time one is striving for. These are wrong words and bad translation of the whatever teaching.
On the other hand, supposedly there are people who """achieved""" it, and without drugs or operation on the brain. I don't get how one can affect the self when already caught up in the self. Once you experience the sense of self for the first time, you can't escape it, because any actions and desires to escape the self STRENGTHENS the self. When you practice zen meditation, it's obvious that more or less conscious parts of you assume you're doing it for the sake of the self, and they even give you dopamine for it.
>because any actions and desires to escape the self STRENGTHENS the self
You deny the possibility of enlightenment?
I don't claim it's easy. It's probably the most difficult thing in the world, nevertheless it is possible. It may be paradoxical, what of it? No one is able to grasp with his mind the state of no-mind, nor what exactly is enlightenment. If you could you would already be enlightened.
Nevertheless there are ways, and bhakti yoga is one of them.
Although I never was much interested in the mechanics of it. I guess you would need to let go of any attachments, even the desire to be enlightened to become enlightened.
Also, some time ago I told someone that I don't really want to be enlightened. They replied that it's good, because if I would, I'd never be.
they're a masonic order
You'd get good connections but I'm not sure what side they stand on.
is it better to practice both white and black magic instead of just one?
If we could all read each others minds we wouldn't need this board now would we
Not an esoteric question but: How do you people live normally after learning all of this? Magick has become the center focus of all of my goals. One of my only life goals is to achieve enlightenment. I can't stand working a mundane job anymore, nor could I imagine owning a house. It all feels very materialistic to me. I feel like my mind and spirit should be the center of my reality, not my car or my job. I'd like to carry everything I need on my person, and thus I've considered being homeless just to get away from these mundane things. Do monasteries still exist? How far can you go on money you come across through magick?
Monasteries still exist, if you don't mind living like a Christian monk. Maybe you could strike up a deal with the head monk so you don't have to do Christian rituals (under rituals i mean singing the mass or whatever) but even if you did, practicing magic there would be taken as disrespect by the monks there. It has it's perks though, the monks there make their own wine, cheese and bread and that's what they live off.
But then again, if you've just started, it's not necessary to abandon everything. And even if you do abandon everything at a high level of spiritual progress, i don't think it would bring you that much closer to enlightenment. The mind is more important - you could have a car, a job, but still live a spiritual life, what's important is how you regard those things. Imagine, what if you really need a car to help someone at a given moment?
Well, magic is magic. It's becomes White or Black depending on how you use it.
Yeah sorry, didn't actually answer your question fully. White is the only one worth doing, i think.
I might couchsurf and use will to convince people to let me stay or something. I wouldn't want to associate myself with those Christian monasteries.
I know I don't have to abandon everything, but I feel like it is what I should do. I have no attachment to any of it. I already live pretty minimalist but I'd prefer to have near nothing at all. I feel that my objects take too much attention away from my studying. Preferably I'd like to get to a point where I can manifest objects I need, but I doubt that will happen anytime soon.
As for helping people, I shouldn't set my life up just to help others. There may come times where I need a truck to carry something large, but is it worth the time and effort I'd have to put in to owning and storing the truck? I feel the same way about owning a house or anything else. I might buy a motorcycle for transportation, but then I would need to deal with insurance and storing it and maintenance. The cons outweigh the pros.
Define what you mean by "white" and "black" magic.
Regardless of your answer not sticking to one path and widening your horizons is always better imho.
I realize my definitions are different from the common definitions
I should of defined with my question
White as in magic that is constructive and builds up.
Black magic as in what breaks down and corrodes things.
seeing as man is a microcosm to the universal macrocosm I think it would be only natural to be well verse in both creative and destructive forces in imitation of the universe building up and breaking down.
What's the reason to forgetting the ritual and not expecting anything? Like for visualisation and faith and emotion I understand but why do you have to forget it afterwards for it to manifest?
>it would be only natural to be well verse in both creative and destructive forces
That's also what I'm thinking. Both life and death are needed.
I used to be homeless for a long time and drifted from couch to couch/slept outside. It mostly sucks to be honest. I have fond memories of some of the fun things that happened then but the day to day of it can be very stressful. You would rarely have privacy and quiet while couch surfing. I have a house now and its nice to not have to find a new place to go every week or even day.
>Morality is something subjective.
I think it gives a wizard a sense of identity, a grounding of sorts. I'd say it's a beneficial thing to have in a whirlwind of experiences he's about to be plunged in. When I constantly reminded myself that my ultimate goal was remembering this incarnation after I died and ascending into a high state of being my progress seemed to have gone smoother than now that I have grown some Earthly goals in relation to magick.
>an ideal version of yourself may not necessarily be "moral" judging by others
That may be right by our society today, but we can agree that some universally desirable qualities one should develop like bravery, kindness to your friends, wisdom and humility? I doubt anyone would be crazy enough to make the case that a cowardly, impulsively angry at everyone idiot who boasts about his non existent abilities on an esoteric board is an example of someone's ideal.
>minimize creation of karma even doing cruel things to others.
I'm not disputing that, doing actions without any form of attachment is the sure way to avoid any baggage or backlash.
What I'm specifically referencing is people getting into the esoteric with some specific "unworthy" for a lack of a better word purpose, but likely due to that purpose being unworthy their efforts are fruitless, they first talk about it on the question thread asking for advice and in a few months they make a thread saying how magic is bullshit and we're all LARPers. This is my theory anyway.
>So, to sum up - I don't believe that ethics should play vital role in the progress and one certainly can become powerful without them.
I'm not bashing the LHP by any means you know. I know that you Indigo pills are in it simply for self empowerment and that's still a worthier goal than simply exacting petty revenge or some other mundane nonsense like that. Those are the sort of people I've had in mind.
Wait till your ego winds down, and when you achieve inner balance you will see things with new eyes.
You seem to be suffering of the mad magician syndrome, and after stimulating your upper centers a bit, the others have become unstable, deconstructing the order things should follow.
If you want to go far, let go of those haughty dreams, and come down to Earth once more. You're not Merlin, you're not a d'jinn, you are a human being, stuck in this level of existence for reasons still unknown to you. As any solid structure, you must build from the foundations to the top, or you'll end up crumbling when trials come.
Work your chakras, meditations, from the most basic to the highest; weaving it with a profound discipline of BEING HAPPY - that's right, a good magician is a happy one -, utilizing the several means of happiness provided by the human existence. Here we must draw the line between pleasure and happiness; here YOU must draw that line and realize what's good for you, your compass being how authentically happy you are with what you're doing.
Work from the foundations, anon, one step at the time. Be happy, and the rest will follow, with no effort.
>my progress seemed to have gone smoother than now that I have grown some Earthly goals in relation to magick
One can have both, there is no need to choose one or the other in my opinion.
>but we can agree that some universally desirable qualities one should develop like bravery, kindness to your friends, wisdom and humility?
Maybe we can, but it isn't unthinkable that someone may not care about these traits. For example humility, one could have self-esteem problems and for them the ideal would be a strong sense of pride, or someone for whom pride gives more power than humility.
Kindness to friends - one could not have friends, only accomplices (or neither), like being in some sort of "business agreement". I want to digress, but personally I don't feel the need to have friends, or to surround myself with people who like me and I may like them back. For me relationships with other people are kind of like that - strictly need oriented - if I don't need anything from a given person I don't keep in contact with them. Also, I think that everyone works in this way - if your friend would have nothing to offer to you, no matter how little and how subtle that might be, would you still be friends? If you disagree then please tell me why - I have given up on finding a friend long ago. Why would I desire kindness to friends in my situation? With that being said I don't want to pose as some sort of edgelord, because I'm not one. I generally try to avoid hurting people and treat them with kindness instead or preferably leave them to themselves (or it's just a view I have of myself anyway). Someone may think that other people are a waste of time (and in most cases would probably be right) and not desire kindness to (nonexistent) friends.
The only trait I would agree with is wisdom, but it's because the occult IS wisdom, so someone not wanting to be wise would not study the occult.
>What I'm specifically referencing is people getting into the esoteric with some specific "unworthy" for a lack of a better word purpose
Who are we to judge what purpose is worthy or unworthy to "general public"? I can only judge it for myself.
Getting into occultism for "unworthy" reasons would still be better than not getting at all. It is my belief that when a soul is ready for this kind of teachings, then it will find a way to hear them. However low and need-oriented that way might be.
>likely due to that purpose being unworthy their efforts are fruitless
I don't know about that. If a person is willing to learn and is committed to the cause then why would they fail? Of course, I think that people who get into the occult "just for fun" or for some mundane reason which is likely to resolve itself are more likely to "drop out" from magical college, but if they keep their initial drive then I don't see why they wouldn't go further.
>I'm not bashing the LHP by any means you know
I apologize then for misunderstanding you, I thought you are one of those people who try to enforce their view of what is right or wrong on others and push the agenda that "people who have different opinions than me cannot into magic".
I'm looking for a good resource on sigils, specifically about the best way to word things for maximum effect and minimizing unintended effects that happen from wording things incorrectly.
I don't know my purpose here. I doubt I'm depressed, but I feel like I could even kill myself today and it would be fine. Whatever happens, all is one anyway and will always be.
I'm torn between experiencing serenity and anxiety. I think the anxiety is there because I'm not sure if I'm right. I'm 23, and by not paying attention to my future whatsoever, I'm burning all the bridges. Believing that spending all day staring at a wall is right must be a bit disrespectful to all the people in the world doing… anything at all.
All I have is a subtle feeling of serenity during meditation and the this faint sensation that all is fine and will always be.
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What is your question exactly?
I've kind of been in this state before. I've been struggling with depression and anxiety for most of my life (I've largely "fixed" this problem now with meditation and magic) and at some point in time I've been in a similar state to one you're describing.
To put it simply - it's a trap. Several years ago when I got back to spirituality and meditation I quickly found myself in a state similar to an "ego meltdown". Not a complete one of course. Soon I realized nothing really mattered, after all I was already one with God (or the All, whatever you wanna call it) and from depression-fueled stagnation I drifted to "fake enlightenment" stagnation. Neither is right in my opinion.
You are not one with universe or whatever. I mean you are - in true non-dual reality - you are and you always have been, but unless you've transcended the illusions of this plane such statements are far-fetched. In potentiality you already are enlightened and can bend the world to your will, right? But unless you realize this potential you have nothing and you can reincarnate billions of times and not get any closer to the ultimate reality.
If you sincerely apply yourself to meditation you can do it. After all, there are meditation techniques in which one stares unblinkingly at, for example, wall clearing ones mind of all thoughts and achieving an altered state of consciousness. If I remember correctly Osho in his "lectures" claimed that Ouspensky used this method too.
It is my belief that one can turn any situation, no matter how undesirable it may seem, to ones advantage.
>I don't know my purpose here
Most of us don't either.
> I can't stand working a mundane job anymore, nor could I imagine owning a house.
>I have given up on finding a friend long ago. Why would I desire kindness to friends in my situation?
It is not unusual to distance yourself from society and it's rules of the game for people like us. Only this way we can do our own thing and evolve ourselves.
Friends are usually mundane and don't follow the path of enlightenment, they stay with the social norms of society and often want you to adapt to these as well - they may feel insecure if you act on your own all the time, but you have to, there's no other way.
Once you cross a certain point in your development, such things will not really concern you anymore because you will do whatever you want to do.
>I don't know my purpose here. I doubt I'm depressed, but I feel like I could even kill myself today and it would be fine.
I came to the conclusion that humanity's purpose is to be a part of planet Earth.
In this biological bodies of ours, we are parts of the ecosystem and hardly survive outside of this planet.
The question is what are the exact functions of our species and what is the function of Gaia in the kosmos. Whatever it is, you have to support Gaia's cause or leave.
>and by not paying attention to my future whatsoever, I'm burning all the bridges.
Again, distance from society is favorable for your development, I think anyone here is a bridge burning pro.
>Believing that spending all day staring at a wall is right must be a bit disrespectful to all the people in the world doing… anything at all.
It would be disrespectful to halt your development. People will remain mundanes forever if people like us don't push the boundaries of evolution.
>It would be disrespectful to halt your development.
I'm not sure whether not doing anything can be called development.
In my experience, every stage of my life served the purpose of the higher self. I have not figured out yet where the journey goes but every single action and non-action(if such a thing even exists) of my life is perfectly aligned and serves a purpose. Sometimes it's awkward to experience this huge synchronistic cluster because I don't really now the higher purpose of it.
Distancing yourself from society(friends) but accepting it's opinion on wall-staring isn't exactly efficient imho. If my intuition is telling me to stare at a wall, then I will fucking do that, it seems even impossible to go against such fate.
Now you're not the original poster of this issue - feeling unsure about non-action.
Can you please elaborate why you feel this way?
Is it your conscience? Or society's conscience maybe? Please explain
>feeling unsure about non-action
By non-action I understand "wasting time".
Of course non-action can lead to some benefits as I wrote in >>1969 about staring at a wall, but is it really non-action as defined (by me) as "wasting time"? I would rather classify it as action, although many meditations are centered around not doing anything or thinking anything, meditation itself is an activity that is sure to bare fruits.
>Is it your conscience?
I've wasted (and still do) too much time in this life to not be opposed to the idea.
>every stage of my life served the purpose of the higher self
and I agree to that, but surely there are quicker ways to learn needed lessons. If not, why are we even bothering with with the occult, if even living mundane life would be aligned with our higher selves?
If everything is alright as it is why grow and develop?
as I wrote
>It is my belief that one can turn any situation, no matter how undesirable it may seem, to ones advantage.
This implies action. Non-action would leave one in an undesirable state forever.
So yes, I am opposed to non-action, because without action nothing can be accomplished. I define action (for the purpose of this post) as making change. If non-action brings some kind of realization (and thus change) then the act of realizing is itself an action and we can take some other path than non-action to reach it, thus not wasting time.
But actually this question is about predestination not about non-action, is it not?
>it seems even impossible to go against such fate
I don't believe my fate is set in stone, do you?
>I've wasted (and still do) too much time in this life to not be opposed to the idea
Well, you can adapt conscience as taught by society or you make your own conscience (which may be free from any rules if you choose so)
> If not, why are we even bothering with with the occult, if even living mundane life would be aligned with our higher selves?
Well, that's the joke. Mundane life is not aligned with the higher selves of individuals like us.
The quicker way would be to follow your intuition without doubt. Unfortunately it's not easy to distinguish intuition from everyday bullshit without practice.
>By non-action I understand "wasting time".
>If everything is alright as it is why grow and develop?
Of course conscious action and will is needed in life, but the subconscious dictates all these things.
We need to distinguish such things when we discuss this topic. I assume you're talking about taking action in form of "sending signals to your body".
Yeah sure, we're not vegetables and need to do that, but choosing these actions is not really necessary. Most often they are already chosen for us by the higher self. Just listening to intuition will allow you to find out what actions to take.
>I don't believe my fate is set in stone, do you?
My observations of my life indicate that fate is inescapable. Maybe that's just because I always follow my intuition.
It's literally not fucking possible for me to go against fate, even sitting here and formulating this post is part of it. Doesn't even blow my mind anymore as it used to, I'm slowly accepting this whole fate thing.
But anytime I become aware of this fate, I wonder where it all goes.
Now I notice that I have mentioned "intuition" pretty often. But it really fuels my whole life tbh.
How did you get out of this "fake ego meltdown" state, though?
It's possible that in order to protect my ego, I subconsciously affirmed myself that I don't have to fulfill any of my human natural desires to be happy in life. As a result, I feel no need to enter relationships or achieve anything in life.
The idea really offends me, which makes me think that it's true. It's very possible all of Buddhism and any kind of eastern spiritualism is based on this psychological disorder. People who chase after material possessions are actually right, while most of us here on this board have huge problems with ego
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>you make your own conscience
I know and I do, how is that relevant?
>Yeah sure, we're not vegetables and need to do that, but choosing these actions is not really necessary.
Well, of course, but we are not talking about conscious action vs action based on intuition, but any action vs non-action, are we not? I recognize the importance of intuition.
>Well, that's the joke. Mundane life is not aligned with the higher selves of individuals like us.
>The quicker way would be to follow your intuition without doubt.
So what does the intuition of mundane people tell them?
> I assume you're talking about taking action in form of "sending signals to your body".
I defined what I understand by action in my previous post. I never wrote anything which would imply me excluding actions on the mental plane and focusing only on "sending signals to my body", where are you coming from with this?
>unfortunately it's not easy to distinguish intuition from everyday bullshit without practice.
But you automatically assumed that it's intuition that made that anon to want to observe the wall and not "everyday bullshit".
>I'm slowly accepting this whole fate thing
Can't say I agree with anything you wrote regarding fate, but well, good luck I guess.
>How did you get out of this "fake ego meltdown" state, though?
It wasn't complete and with time the ego rebuilt itself, maybe not in the same form as it was before, but still, I regressed to living pretty mundane life. When I came back to spirituality again I came via different route (magic).
>It's possible that in order to protect my ego, I subconsciously affirmed myself that I don't have to fulfill any of my human natural desires to be happy in life.
Anyway, even if it's true, it's actually a good thing. Even if done for wrong reasons.
>It's very possible all of Buddhism and any kind of eastern spiritualism is based on this psychological disorder
Not every Eastern system requires you to live as a recluse and also I disagree that it's a psychological disorder, on the contrary - to me it seems that chasing after material possessions is a disorder.
>People who chase after material possessions are actually right
Why would they be? What does it matter if you die with a full wallet or an empty one? There are things which are eternal and that can change not only this life, but affect every following one. Material possessions aren't one of them.
>most of us here on this board have huge problems with ego
If I have, I'm not aware of it. In fact following this path brought me nothing but happiness, satisfaction and the feeling of self-realization. I finally found a place where I belong - this is that kind of feeling.
With that being said - you need not abandon material possessions if you want to do magic and stuff. I don't think anyone here lives as an ascetic (if anything because there aren't many opportunities to live like that), but there is a difference between using things and being enamored by them.
And as for no need to achieve anything in life - in my opinion, as I already stated, it is wrong. I don't want to achieve anything in my mundane life, sure, but life is such a vast thing! It's not just limited to working, eating, shitting, sleeping and fucking. Mundane people seem to do almost exclusively that. I can't live like that, it's not for me. Perhaps it's not for you either? If that's the case, then the sense of lack while living mundane life will slowly eat you away.
>One can have both
I know but it's just a personal observation.
>one could have self-esteem problems and for them the ideal would be a strong sense of pride
Oh absolutely, everyone has their unique set of problems which is why I believe they should transmute whatever undesired traits into what they could see in the ideal version of themselves.
>For me relationships with other people are kind of like that - strictly need oriented
I find myself doing the same thing actually. Getting through uni is borderline impossible without the help of others for anyone so we seem to have formed friendship groups which are more like business syndicates/think tanks. Despite that we greatly enjoy each others' company which is part of the reason why we grouped up.
>if your friend would have nothing to offer to you, no matter how little and how subtle that might be, would you still be friends?
That's a very utilitarian view you've got. Would you consider entertainment like movies and vidya being enhanced when consumed with a friend something that makes him worthwhile? I'd say so but as far as magic goes, I find it very pleasant to surround myself with good people and "feel their good vibe" by chatting or working with them.
>I generally try to avoid hurting people and treat them with kindness instead or preferably leave them to themselves
This is the sort of moral ground I meant in my original post. The way you view yourself and define your persona.
>Someone may think that other people are a waste of time (and in most cases would probably be right) and not desire kindness to (nonexistent) friends.
Sure but I'm a moralfag who's gone out of his way to cure the flu of random strangers on the bus I take. It doesn't benefit me in any direct way but I enjoy doing it. Although every now and then I get greatly disappointed in mundanes and mentally tell them to fuck off though I can't stay mad for them any longer than I'd stay mad at a pet taking a shit on the carpet.
>Who are we to judge what purpose is worthy or unworthy to "general public"?
I didn't mean unworthy by human standards, I meant whatever standards the All or whatever decides that a person is ready to start developing themselves and is led towards the material or people that may help him. In any case I believe it would be unwise to advertise magic to anyone listening. If a person is ready a path of synchronicities will lead him to the right place. Who are we to haste anyone's destiny?
>If a person is willing to learn and is committed to the cause then why would they fail?
I wonder, do people have any limits of how far they can develop themselves in any given incarnation or is it all like an all you can develop buffet of magic for anyone even remotely ready. What are your thoughts?
>I know and I do, how is that relevant?
Because "waste of time" is often defined by society's standards. Falling for it's memes is not really favorable.
Having your own opinion is the fringe way, but I'm glad that you are aware of it
>But you automatically assumed that it's intuition that made that anon to want to observe the wall and not "everyday bullshit".
Yes, maybe it was foolish of me.
Does drinking alcohol harm your spiritual progress? It should be fine if I do it in moderation and don't forget my spiritual practices right? I still want to have fun with mundanes and live a somewhat mundane life, but I can put that aside if it will stop me from progressing.
You're right. I can barely feel the lower chakras, I usually go top to bottom. But I don't see why I have to restrict myself as just a human being. Thrice Great Hermes, albeit through several lives, achieved enlightenment. I want to do so under any means possible, because I can't stand living in a "dream." Reality is beyond this, and I want to have access to it. I'm willing to sacrifice material things in this dream if it breaks the cycle of reincarnation. But I suppose it will all play itself out if I'm meant to ascend in this lifetime.
you could always try soul alchemy and attain a longer lifespan by living in the astral.
I assumed the way to live a longer lifespan (physically) was to reverse apoptosis through healing and matter manipulation. Although I haven't read this anywhere, this would just be my way of doing it.
Don't we basically live in the astral already? "We" being our higher selves/spirits? I would like to keep my ego if possible but if spirit stays through reincarnation than I guess that's all that matters.
It feels pretty good to be slowly, gradually, inch by inch be making some progress, However small.
I've always meditated on and off, but for little under the last month, I've managed to consistently get 20 minutes in. My mind still goes absolutely apeshit and won't stop talking, but I understand there's no easy answer for that. It's just a matter of disengaging and not beating yourself up when it happens.
The question I want to ask is a matter of some troubleshooting; For the past two or so days during my meditation my brow chakra becomes incredibly active, and from there I'm hit by waves of vertigo and nausea. It gets bad enough that I've needed to bail on the meditation completely, it's very unpleasant and lingers throughout the rest of the day.
Can anyone explain exactly what's happening and/or a way to minimize these symptoms? It could be anything and I worry I'm doing something wrong
>I believe they should transmute whatever undesired traits into what they could see in the ideal version of themselves.
>Getting through uni is borderline impossible without the help of others
It is possible, it's hard that's all. I feel you m8y, don't even get me started on my uni.
>I wonder, do people have any limits of how far they can develop themselves in any given incarnation or is it all like an all you can develop buffet of magic for anyone even remotely ready. What are your thoughts?
Enlightenment can come in a day, or even instantaneously. But maybe that's just the merit of hard work in previous incarnation?
Nevertheless, I think that there are no barriers and one could possibly achieve anything they want within one incarnation, however that really seems unlikely.
So… I think it's possible but not very probable. There seems to be limits, but they are rather something particular to a given individual and not something set in stone and I think that one can raise above them.
>Does drinking alcohol harm your spiritual progress?
If you believe it does, then yes :^)
Even if it does, why not use magic no reduce this effect? But then again - why drink at all then.
From my experience it's detrimental to such areas as LD/AP, intuition, visualization and anything requiring strong will . It basically dumbs you down for some time and binds you more to your physical body. It doesn't do any permanent damage though so indulge yourself if you want.
Also, what do you mean by "spiritual progress"?
>achieved enlightenment. I want to do so under any means possible
To become enlightened you must get rid yourself of every attachment, even the desire to become enlightened. It's quite troublesome thing - the enlightenment.
I was just wondering the permanent side effects, since I've been looking at eastern and "new age" lifestyles where they abstain from things that generally harm the body. I don't want to fuck myself up or permanently mentally damage myself in case this is the life I'm supposed to become enlightened in.
By "spiritual progress" I mean getting closer to the oneness/God. My desire to be enlightened mostly comes from the desire to stay alive in the astral after physical death. This comes from one of WWA books where he talks about how the ego enters a deep sleep and doesn't wake up if it's not ready to leave the physical or something. Either way, writing it out has made me realize it's just my way of saying "I don't want to die" which I should get over.
What is the fringe way of dealing with enemies?
Dizzyness and pressure headaches are common symptoms of "opening your third eye". I've heard not being well grounded can exacerbate these symptoms so when they spring up, try the following:
1. go outside barefoot, stand on the grass, close your eyes and face the sun.
2. Breath slowly in a relaxed manner and use your mind to direct the energy in the your head down your body and out your feet into the earth.
3. Use whatever visualizations, sense of feel and body movements you want to facilitate your focus.
>It's possible that in order to protect my ego, I subconsciously affirmed myself that I don't have to fulfill any of my human natural desires to be happy in life. As a result, I feel no need to enter relationships or achieve anything in life.
>This idea really offends me
That last bit is important. This is a very easy trap to fall into. I fell into it for many years and still clawing my way out.
For me personally, something I've only recently come to realize is that this trap is set by having a Service-to-Self mindset, but then losing or denying any sense of value in material things. Having lost any sense of positive value in material things, all I was left with was the ego damaging burdens they brought, so naturally I chose hermitage (aka neetdom).
The only solution to this is for me to either:
A. Gain a sense of personal value for the material things
B. View the ego damaging burden as an opportunity for personal growth; training
C. Adopt a Service-to-Others mindset
B is the most pertinent one for myself and likely the most pertinent for the types that frequent these sorts of boards. Isn't it funny that we will dive headlong into "manifesting our wills" to attempt influencing people, objects and events, yet we never consider using those same skills to transmute the negative emotions and alter the negative thoughts we have towards material things, work, school, relationships, family, friends, responsibilities, and so forth?
>It's very possible all of Buddhism and any kind of eastern spiritualism is based on this psychological disorder. People who chase after material possessions are actually right, while most of us here on this board have huge problems with ego
I would say it is not Buddhism's fault that some (primarily westerners) use it as a place to hide from thier egos. Life in the monastary is not easy and any who join one thinking that it would be a respite from the burdens of the material world won't last. Monks actually do a lot of work all in the service of their temples and they spend quite a bit of time raising money to maintain their way of life. Nobody gets away from having to pay the bills somehow!
it would basically be to stay in the astral when you die and have a longer time to achieve hat you want to achieve
But staying in the astral after I die is what I want. After that I figure it's just a different life. And if my other goals are mundane, then I can't achieve those after death.
Actually, to avoid asking mundane questions that only I can really answer:
How can I ask my higher self about what would be best for me? I feel like I've lost sight of what my "end goal" of my magick work was, and I could use help re-aligning my mundane path as well. Is there any specific way to meditate that would help?
I have meditated on many questions I am troubled with and still not found an answer, even for months.
What do you mean when you say you meditated on some questions? You thought about them, not meditated. You can't meditate on a thought, unless you treat eg. awareness of the position of body in space as a type of thought.
>B is the most pertinent one for myself and likely the most pertinent for the types that frequent these sorts of boards. Isn't it funny that we will dive headlong into "manifesting our wills" to attempt influencing people, objects and events, yet we never consider using those same skills to transmute the negative emotions and alter the negative thoughts we have towards material things, work, school, relationships, family, friends, responsibilities, and so forth?
It's the opposite for me, it was so easy for me to change all my views and emotions, but actually manifesting something is quite hard, now the reason might actually be my sub-conscious beliefs about what's possible and what isn't
Whats a good goetic spirit for a first summoning?
Also, is there anything to be aware of before attempting?
don't be an asshole but also don't be a pussy, that's it
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Acting without intent of reward is a way to sever the bonds between the ego and action.By acting like this you are setting out to make everything you do a sacrifice to higher powers (or to the realization of yourself as a higher power)
The Buddha's quote:
-Done is what needed to be done.
Fit's very well in this circumstance.
I suspect the only hindrance out of the 5 that makes me unable to enter the first jhana is sloth-torpor.
Apparently the antidote is to look at one's life, or one's meditation, with a 'beginner's, childlike mind'.
I wonder how do I achieve it. Is this a matter of affirmation? Repeating the phrase that "I have beginner's mind" 1000 times, especially during emotionally charged moments? Or "I have beginner's mind" sigil?
Full text of the antidote:
>"Sloth and torpor is overcome by rousing energy. Energy is always available but few know how to turn on the switch, as it were. Setting a goal, a reasonable goal, is a wise and effective way to generate energy, as is deliberately developing interest in the task at hand. A young child has a natural interest, and consequent energy, because its world is so new. Thus, if one can learn to look at one's life, or one's meditation, with a 'beginner's mind' one can see ever new angles and fresh possibilities which keep one distant from sloth and torpor, alive and energetic. Similarly, one can develop delight in whatever one is doing by training one's perception to see the beautiful in the ordinary, thereby generating the interest which avoids the half-death that is sloth and torpor. […] Sloth and torpor is a common problem which can creep up and smother one slowly. A skilful meditator keeps a sharp look-out for the first signs of sloth and torpor and is thus able to spot its approach and take evasive action before it's too late. Like coming to a fork in a road, one can take that mental path leading away from sloth and torpor."
I'm in my twenties and I haven't cried since I was maybe 10 years old. I have a lot of anxiety that I believe is attributed to emotional trauma that was bottled down each time it happened. Now I'm an emotional wreck who is controlled by his emotions. A few days ago, a recurring memory of a situation in the past where I was being yelled at by a stranger came up again. So, I focused hard on it and kept telling myself that it wasn't my fault it happened. I started feeling a strange sensation in my head, like my ears were opening up and and soft pallete started to rise and then I started crying because I felt so happy. I guess I am too hard on myself and that affirmation must have finally allowed me to forgive myself. Did I hit the mark on this one and can I do this with more repressed emotions? Please let me know what you guys think. Thanks!
Reasuring yourself that it's not your fault is pretty much on point, honestly it's kind of weird seeing people act on their emotions for me, but my problem is not feeling much emotion at all I guess
I got bored while playing on an Ark: Survival Evolved server and started telling stories and upsetting the mundanes and then I went all-out and did magick on them and two of them were high as fuck and I became high as fuck when I psychically connected to them and then I spent hours barely being able to type out anything correctly and rambling about Eris and random other shit until I was driven off the server by panicked mundanes who collectively came together to start reporting me and get me to go away as they were chimping out after as I was causing all sorts of chaos.
Any tips on how not to become high af when doing psychic shit on people who are high af themselves?
I was so fucking high and I've never been high before but god damn when I connected to them it hit me so harddd…
How can I remove another person's depression?
Vitalize the fuck out of them and then change their thinking patterns that made them depressed to begin with.
I'm not sure how to do that tbh
I'm this anon, I haven't made any progress nor gotten any further with meditation after maybe 1-3 days after making this post and having that realization, where I tried to start it up again.
No I just returned to my distractions, to putting it off, to "not feeling like it".
I realized why though, I think its because I felt like for the first time that my meditation practice was on the right track, and I had a general sense of what to do and everything, so I must have felt like I could put it on hold, do other things, get lost in distraction again, I can always return to the practice when I want to.
The last time this sort of thinking took hold it took many months for me to even meditate even once a day again, I can't allow that kind of waste of time and distraction to happen again, whats the best way to overcome this mindset?
You connect to them and then you fill them with the love of life which causes their whole etheric body to be energized very strongly to adhere to the archetypal astral form. You remove distortions, attachments, and negative programming that screw with the perfect form of the person and they become healthier and look beautiful and so on which reflects the depression going away and them becoming beautiful inside and out., As within; so without.
How you connect to them is through intense imagination, intention, and strong emotions. You will have to develop yourself psychically and I recommend all of Franz Bardon's books for the basic lay-out of what you need to do, and then all the other books as supplementary reading to flesh out what is only briefly talked about by Bardon.
General thoughts of the board concerning CheesePizza?
go back to librechan with that shit
I'd rather see it than see miscegenation porn.
Is a faster method possible? One with rituals or thoughtforms?
I'm on my 6th day of no fap, I'm heavily considering summoning a succubus.
whats the pros of continuing and the cons of the succubus.
that made me fucking lol after remembering what miscegenation means, being mixed race myself
ever seen Ghost in the Shell?
Are Astrological readings and influences the same in the southern hemisphere?
Do as the mundanes do.
>Keep it up for 30 odd days until you've formed a habit and don't need to expend willpower on it anymore.
Well I guess I was just thinking with less outside influence then. What can I do to find my real purpose?
In my internal debate of trying to find a soft spot between a mundane and wizards life, I've come to realize that I have no idea why I practice magick. I know it exists, but I don't know what I could use it for that is actual improvement that leads to a goal and not just "hey I can read peoples emotions now." I need a direction soon before I just go back into full mundane.
How do i start remote viewing? Are there any books on remote viewing?
Remote viewing was one of the first 'occult' skills I picked up, and having studied it quite well, I think I can help.
There are multiple forms of remote viewing but I think the most viable ones are CRV (controlled remote viewing) and SRV (scientific remote viewing). The differences are marginal however, as SRV derives from CRV. In both of these forms of remote viewing, you remote view a 'blind' target - meaning you know practically nothing about the target. This is to minimize the conscious noise and interference.
>Are there any books on remote viewing?
The PDF attached is one of the best works, if not the best, on CRV, written by the acclaimed remote viewer Daz Smith. The book is not only well written, but also highly structured with plentiful examples and visual representations. You will fly through the pages, and I'd recommend anyone on /fringe/ to read it.
>How do i start remote viewing?
I started out with the SRV videos and practices, they are very straight forward and almost guaranteed to work. Check the following link: http://farsight.org/SRV/index.html
You only really have to follow 'video lesson 1 - Ideograms and Probing' (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGw9gHfSEwM) to get a rough understanding of the protocols.
Then just pick a random link from target pool A (http://www.farsight.org/sponsors/PoolA/jumbledpoollistA.html) and save the link somewhere. Obviously don't open the link yet, as you're supposed to view these targets blind in both SRV and CRV. After that, just get some paper and pen and start following the protocols as outlined in either the PDF or in the video tutorials of farsight!
Pics related, its my very first time of doing remote viewing under SRV protocols. My target was: http://farsight.org/sponsors/PoolA/t74.html
The building I picked up was most likely the bridge of the ship in my target image. On the second pic 'hoog gebouw' means 'high building', I think that was the only thing I wrote in Dutch (if you can read my handwriting at all, that is)
Either how, good luck!
Thanks for all the information and examples, this is extremely helpful
If after 6 miserable days you're thinking of succubi, then you have energy leaks and all this abstinence is worth nothing.
The abstinence of physical orgasms is a valuable thing by itself, but the inability to keep your mind and emotions devoid of desire will greatly hinder your progress towards any goal you've set when you started this (a.k.a. I don't fucking know why you're doing this).
If you're building desire-force to successfully summon a succubi, I guess the longer you build it up the more chances of success, as sexual frustration is a great bait for those.
If you are doing this for the right reasons (not draining energy and nutrients that are needed for a healthy mind and body), then there's no real limit to the time. Your body will drain the excess alone, via wet dreams (place some wards so that no negative entity abuses your unconscious state of dream and drains you) or little drains when you piss.
Cons of a succubus: if it becomes attached to you it will continue to drain you beyond your control. Other than that they can be pretty civil.
bump for interest, I've always wondered what happens to the constellations the egyptians and greeks couldn't see because of the Earth geometrical properties.
Hear my calling, Lucid Dreamers of Fringe!
I've pretty recently started trying to have a Lucid Dreams, and better dream memory (I can't barely remember anything about my dreams, besides sometimes a person or a small detail or place). So I have a few questions;
1) Is more then one Reality Check a bad thing? I have a "reality check routine" wich goes something like this: 1. Ask myself if I'm dreaming; 2. Look at my hands looking for something out of the ordinary; 3. Try to push my fingers through my palm; 4. Be aware of my surroundings; 5. Either pitch myself, or try to do something impossible.
Is this good, or is it too much?
2) I'm not doing anything like "WILD" Method or anything, just doing reality checks, and trying to remembers the dreams with a journal. Is this not enough to actually start developing myself in LD?
3) Is there something else besides Reality Checks and Meditation before bed that I can do to speed up the process? How long do you think it might take till I get satisfying results?
Any online guides with consistency or accuracy into colors & meaning?
Now that I can start to see them, where do I read how to interpret?
If I can't even do that then I am worse than mundane
It's such a shameful feeling, especially since I was so far ahead (relatively) in my spiritual practice not too long ago
Right now the memories of that time is the only thing thats keeping me going, knowing that I do have the capability to achieve those things, if I just can summon up the willpower to make it a daily habit again, if I can push through this shitty mindset and laziness I've acquired.
>I can't barely remember anything about my dreams
> trying to remembers the dreams with a journal. Is this not enough to actually start developing myself in LD?
Stick with the journaling.. I've been keeping a journal habitually for approaching 2 weeks and I've gone from remembering some of 1 dream to remembering up to 3. Even if it doesn't seem like you remember much now still write it down. Just today as I was writing the bit I could remember I was suddenly hit with a flash of memory from a whole section before it and that led to remembering a another section before that.
I'm just beginning this myself so I can't offer much regarding your other questions, but I do heavily endorse journalism as one of the most fundamental exercises for novices. It cross trains so many foundational skills: memory, discipline, intent, will. It id also like a affirmation to your subconscious to pay more attention and some argue an effective means of communicating to your guides that you're desiring more training.
1) I rarely used reality checks and still got to LD, so I can't really answer that. I think I'd rather stick with one - to make it more powerful as a habit - I mean, when you want to do a RC I think it would be more meaningful if you only used one method, I think it would become lodged into your subconscious more easily, but a wider variety could have their merit too, I'm not sure. Maybe make one RC your primary one, and perform others only when you feel like it or something like that.
2) Journal is very helpful, when I stopped using mine (because I'm a lazy cunt) my dream recall was much worse.
>Is this not enough to actually start developing myself in LD?
I think it's enough. By the way, how many LDs have you had so far?
3) Affirmation and auto-suggestion. That's mostly how I got to LD - I was telling myself before bed that I will be lucid dreaming and I willed it and so it was (or that I retain my consciousness in a dream, stuff like that generally). Another method I used was meditating as falling asleep and getting into deep trance in which your body is asleep but your mind isn't and you are conscious still. You can get into either LD or AP from that point and I used it primarily for the former.
>How long do you think it might take till I get satisfying results?
Depends only on you. You could have a satisfying result tonight for all I know.
We have a whole thread about it, and we discussed in it whether colors have any inherent meaning or not. Personally, I don't think they do. Read the thread and make your own mind.
>You can get into either LD or AP from that point and I used it primarily for the former.
I meant latter.
>We have a whole thread about it, and we discussed in it whether colors have any inherent meaning or not.
I meant a thread about colors.
Sorry guise, I'm a mess today it seems :^)
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I have two things bugging my mind.
1- Some 2 months ago I wanted to get some cool crystal to boost my energy work, and out of the blue, a beautiful green quartz crystal - the size of a tangerine, a bit cloudy but still beautiful - appeared in my nightstand. I didn't ask for it, and nobody has said anything like "Hey you like that quartz I got you?" or anything. It just appeared there.
>Chances some entity hidden in it can drain energy as I energy-work with it?
2- Two nights ago I felt somewhat frustrated, and went to sleep. Falling asleep was a pain but my mind was racing because I felt this lightheadedness, focused on my temples. I've always grinded teeth, and I'm used to feel this tension on my jaw, but it was all gone - I told myself that maybe it was the muscle feeling good because I finally got it relaxed; but I couldn't sleep and felt this emotional overflow… I meditated some 30 minutes and finally fell asleep around 3 am.
Thing is that next day when I woke up the lightheadedness was still there, and as I energy-worked through the day I felt this "horns" of energy flowing from my temples.
This night I had trouble sleeping again, thanks to the same mind racing.
>Just wtf, any ideas?
>out of the blue, a beautiful green quartz crystal […] appeared in my nightstand
I was in the same situation.
After my grandfather died a rosary appeared on my nightstand during the night. I think he put it there, to give me an absolute proof of the existence of supernatural, because at the time I was denying it. He was clairvoyant, a seer and a remarkable person, very powerful. Never used the rosary though, as I'm not Christian. I think he was a Gnostic Christian Mystic of sorts.
As for your crystal - I doubt that it was placed for malevolent reasons.
Maybe use meditation/divination or whatnot to establish whether that's the case? Feel the crystal and observe how you react, or ask your higher self or any deity you may have relationship with to answer your question and see how it goes.
I don't know, I don't do energy work.
I can't get into the fucking flow when writing my MA thesis because of lack of interest and knowledge.
How do I force myself into the flow despite lack of interest and knowledge? They're necessary components of the flow.
Meditation and flow is almost the same thing. Right now the benefits of my meditation practice are being undone because of this situation. Frustration and stress are eating on my emotional body.
How do I get over brainfog?
Virility Sun-shine B)
But then again you're Indigo Pill… how can I trust that story's not made up and that the NWO planted it there for me to find?
Won't you be nice to a fellow Seeker and tell me if that's the case?
I already explained how I fit indigo pill archetype and what do I think of NWO at least two times.
1. I'm all about self-empowerment, that's why I picked this flag and also I like the color. There's more to it, but suffice to say it's not because I'm an edgelord, but because I value power. Or maybe I just wanted to mock greenpills who see NWO agents around every corner :^)
And also, I never thought such a thing would matter. It's just a flag.
2. I don't care about NWO.
>how can I trust that story's not made up
How can you trust anything on the Internet for that matter?
>and that the NWO planted it there for me to find?
You finding this quartz crystal is the most important thing in ushering the New World Order! We can't do it otherwise for some strange reason, everybody was very surprised when we realized this (you should've seen the old Rothschild's face haha).
>Won't you be nice to a fellow Seeker and tell me if that's the case?
What does it matter what I say? If I lied there then why wouldn't I now?
For what it's worth - that story is true, I have no connections to NWO. If such a thing even exists.
Also, if I wanted to convince you to use the crystal why would I fabricate a story only to post it as a indigo pill? And I never said anything like "Yes, go for it!" I encouraged you to investigate it yourself.
Hahahaha take it easy bro, I was just joking with the meme.
Indigo is quite a made up color anyway, isn't it? It's just some deep blue… tho it reminds me of a easter egg in Fable, the dye Indigo Montoya labeled "This is indigo dye of the rare Montoya genus. You have crushed its flowers. Prepare to dye"
>Hahahaha take it easy bro, I was just joking with the meme.
I didn't get it, I look like a fool now. Look what have you done! Now I will be a laughingstock for
my masonic comrades :c
>Indigo is quite a made up color anyway, isn't it? It's just some deep blue…
What do you mean made up?
Allways after I manifest or influence a few things succesfully, a negative time comes. Various objects can be broken, and undesired situations happen (see below), but I do not give up to the negative emotions arising from them. It feels like paying for using this ability, could this come from malicious entity, or something hidden in my unonscious affects me?
What happened just in one day after extensive usage of influencing: An electric air compressor was running nearby, suddenly I visualised it exploding, I tried to stop the visualisation, but just three seconds later a rubber pipe has bursted loudly, good thing it was not the tank. I saw an image of a hand cut between the fingers, which disgusted me, that was a few days ago, and today when I was using a saw it flew out of my hand accidentaly and cut my hand just like on the image. Accidental manifestation must be stopped, how can I cancel visualisation that will inevitably lead to manifestaion? Is preventing it in first place the only option?
How did your manifestation game get this strong? Curious tbh, to have it manifest after only 3 seconds seems incredible to me
Anyone have any advice about telekinesis?
Start little, just like very little.
Hang a feather or a match with fine thread from a lamp, and focus on it, moving it with your Mind's Hands. You may not get results in… weeks, but eventually you'll be able to make it rock lightly, then swing harder, and who knows, then you can take it to the next level and move heavier objects.
Of course, this requires you to have some level of advancement in energy work, concentration, visualization and such.
Don't push yourself too hard, and don't drop it for the apparent initial lack of results.
Fucked up man, have you tried "rewinding" them and changing the outcome? I know 3 seconds doesn't seem like a lot of time to do that mental process, but maybe that one was just a premonition,nothing to be done about it.
How can we be sure it is manifestation and not premonition? Granted, some form of blowback may be occurring from his conscious manifestations, but it is pretty clear he isn't in control for these negative ones. Even if these visualizations occur where is the will coming from?
Is there anyway to stop or slow time? I feel like time is getting faster
Yes I have thought about this being a premonition and it seems very likely, I felt the need to get away from the compressor when I saw it exploding, this seems to be the best answer.
I also feel that this nasty grinder stone will break into pieces inevitably, sending extremelly fast debris around, The worst part is that someone will be using it, and my warnings are to be ignored by them.
Maybe you're just well attuned to your surroundings and you are aware of the Causes, making the Effects apparent to you.
With that in mind, you can suggest a regular maintenance or quality check of said grinder stone - given there's time to make it. If it goes well and some malfunction is discovered, you might get credit as that worried guy that happens to be right, giving you some "authority" when you get these feelings again.
Definitely, our perception of time is only limited by the amount of data we can process; if you manage to broaden your input channels you can get the perception of slower or even stopped time. What I've found useful for this purpose is being self-aware… I know one gets to listen to that very often in this place, but it's just that.
How do i broaden input channels?
>What I've found useful for this purpose is being self-aware… I know one gets to listen to that very often in this place, but it's just that.
> How do i broaden input channels?
Meditate and what he said. Self awareness
What are the implications of a nocturnal lifestyle?
My new part-time job will be at night and I want to adapt a new sleep-wake cycle.
I plan to sleep before work, then rise at midnight and later enjoy some morning sun after work so I won't get sun deficiency.
On my days off, I want to stay awake at night as well to maintain a regular sleeping schedule so that I can hopefully maintain mental health.
But this is just mundane preparation.
What really bothers me are the occult implications:
-Where can I get my life energy from at night? I want to avoid any black magic
-Can I use the moon for some neat occult practices? or is that a trap?
-Will I have to deal with demons? Any non-LHP books on that?
It feels weird because I have spend my depressive years sleepless and now that I adopted a healthy lifestyle at daylight, I have to return to the night again. This time I am mentally stable though and this is a nice little opportunity to become more in touch with the less physical.
Please recommend books that deal with night-time but which aren't edgy LHP or cosplayer shit.
How do I visualize things more clearly, instead of the hazy barely visible things I see now?
How can I make my manifesting more effective? Does it all depend on my sub-conscious beliefs or do some other factors come into play? Right now it's pretty random, I'd say about 35% success rate, How can I improve on this?
Also note: The method for manifestation I use is simple visualisation and adding emotion to that visualisation and then afterwards forgetting about it
Practice makes perfect.
You can also try some meditations from >>3 that help visualization. Try #12 and #13 for example.
>How do I visualize things more clearly, instead of the hazy barely visible things I see now?
Seriously, it just improves with experience. You can't force it, so keep your expectations in check and just keep meditating every day. Understand that your ability to quiet the mind and your ability to focus on a single thing will affect your ability to effectively visualize,
So I recommend that in addition to meditations where you explicitly practice visualization you cross train with meditation where you explicitly do not train visualization.
> a nocturnal lifestyle?
I would say there is nothing wrong with this. I have lived nocturnally, and find I have more energy than I did in my diurnal cycles.
> sun deficiency.
You don't even need an hour of sunlight to get the maximum benefits from it. You CAN live without the sun completely, and you will go through certain changes (I think the vampire myth is partially based on this).
The human body is infinitely adaptable - and it has adapted to the sun. We think these conditions are normal and necessary, but I think we can perform as well, or better without. What will man do, when we become a space-faring species? I visualize darkened living spaces in spaceships voyaging far from any sun.
> Where can I get my life energy from at night?
All your energy comes from the sun and planet and the universe. It does not matter if the sun's behind the planet or not. Other people do drain you, if you get around too many low energy people, but at night, this aspect is well reduced, the weak people being in bed or locked away watching mind-numbing reality television.
> Can I use the moon for some neat occult practices?
> Will I have to deal with demons?
Whether you deal with demons does not depend on whether or not the sun's behind the planet.
> EXTRA INFO
The vast depth of mythology that includes the third eye - say that darkness is what brings the light forth.
Jesus in the dark cave after his death, before becoming resurrected. Birth, coming from the darkness.
The Tibetan mage, Milarepa, gaining his powers after meditating in a pitch-black rock cage that he had to build and sit in, until he saw visions.
The dark 'coffin' in the great pyramid that was meant for healing according to the Ra material.
"Many spiritual traditions have used Dark Room techniques in the pursuit of enlightenment. In Europe, the dark room often appeared in underground form as a network of tunnels, in Egypt as the Pyramids, in Rome as the catacombs, and by the Essenes, near the Dead Sea in Israel, as caves. In the Taoist tradition caves have been used throughout the ages for higher level practices." — Mantak Chia, Dark Room Enlightenment
(This isn't something they do for a few days, but for weeks at a time)
> The darkness is your friend.
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If you know how to meditate for long periods of time you''ll be no stranger to feeling bored to the point it becomes unbearable. Apply that perseverance to whatever it is you have to do. Do it methodically, not emotionally. Write something shitty, then rewrite it better once and again until it's good.
If it's a chore, don't try to approach it as something pleasurable and then complain it's not. Suffer through it.
Has anybody ever seen pic related? Can you tell me what it is? Even if it just resembles something else.
It reminds me of a badly drawn camel with it's head cut off.
What are the different possibilities for an afterlife or whatever happens when our bodies die? Is it possible to pick which one I like the most to go to? I don't want to reincarnate here.
Energy is in everything as everything is energy. "Energy Work" is an application of it. Just as there are special snowflakes that learned to do things intuitively, and once they've taken the greenpill they learn they already learned how to do certain things, and they match those with the names they've read elsewhere. Even in your own examples you are defining an application for energy work, then you juxtaposed it with something that does indeed involve energy but through an application you approve of. Please learn to properly differentiate, or rather; properly identify these applications and their uses because otherwise saying, "I'm confident energy work has no real purpose," may lead to misinformation.
It is a sigil and you're only feeding it lush while trying to uselessly decipher it.
It is possible that you made it yourself and you want newfags to charge it for you.
Conscious reincarnation is an advanced stage in the soul transmigration. In the common human life you'll polarize yourself towards certain tendencies and ambiances, that will determine your karma, and when the time comes for your soul to take upon a new body, it will tend to places/families/bodies that vibrate in a frequency similar to that you attuned yourself while living. Short story: live like you want to live and you'll continue to live that way even in other lives if you polarize yourself strongly enough.
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Hey guys, I have a problem and I wonder maybe someone can give me a protip or whatever.
I ask about meditation techniques/rituals or whatever that can give one pleasure.
Right now I'm going through an opiate withdrawal (4th day, been doing drugs for 4 years, with a few months of detox about a year ago) and it feels like hell. Can't eat, can't sleep, can't move but can't stay in one place either. The only thing that gives me just a slight relief is meditation, it was never really my forte, but I can still get into a trance easily, even in my current state, without much hussle, but the problem is concentration and I can't stay in this state very long.
Normally I'd do some self-healing rituals/meditations (I was using them previously to keep my body healthy despite my lifestyle) but I don't have neither the concentration, nor the energy to do so. I feel completely empty and depressed as fuck. Today I spent most of the day fantasizing about drugs and dwelling in memories of the "good times". It fucking makes me sick.
Right now I don't even know if I really want to quit doing drugs. I think it would be easier if I had some meditation or whatever to replace the feeling of being high on opiates, I feel slight bliss when meditating and I've always have, but this is no match compared to an opiate high. Nothing gives me satisfaction, and it has been like that for a very long time, even before I started doing drugs. The only thing that ever mattered to me was magic and now I don't even have that because of overall lack of energy, concentration and willpower.
So, let me rephrase my question (sorry if I worded this post like a retard, it's not easy atm to write cohesively) - do you have any ideas to achieve high, without using chemicals? I have a few ideas (invocation among others) but I'd like to hear your opinions if you have any.
If you don't want to help me in this endeavor for whatever reason than I'd really appreciate anything really that could give me a relief. I'm also happy I could share this somewhere.
Also, I'm quitting cigarettes, fapping and sugar because if I have to suffer I might as well end it all in one big blaze of suffering and self-loathing.
>inb4 degenerate kill yourself
Update: music seems to give me at least a little bit of power, dunno if I can use this little bit of energy to make a change but I will try.
What I do to achieve "high" feelings:
> Drink tea as hot as I can, adding some ginger powder or pepper into it. Different teas might produce different states. Honey's good too.
> Sun bathing with some moderate volume binaural beats playing in my headphones.
> Proper breathing, given I'm in open space. If I do it for some 30 minutes the feeling grows stronger.
If you think music helps, abuse that. Check the Fringe Music Thread in the catalog if you're running out of bands.
Even if your body doesn't want to, some exercise will do wonders once you can do it.
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Sunbath would be nice for my cold shivers, but there is no sun and it's raining at the moment. Breathing as a part of meditation helps I guess.
>if you're running out of bands
I don't wanna sound like an elitist or something but not going to happen, I'm a huge music autist with hundreds of gigabytes of music. I'm also a regular contributor to the music thread. Right now I'm trying to drown my sensory input in a wall of dark ambient, with pretty good results. Vidrel is nice atmospheric ambient, I like the feeling I get from listening to such music - like being taken far away to some other world.
Also, listening to very negative or suicidal music while I'm feeling down seems to have the opposite effect - giving me energy instead of siphoning it away.
Thank you for your response, I really appreciate it! If I sound like an elitist cunt then I'm sorry, I didn't mean to.
>Even if your body doesn't want to, some exercise will do wonders once you can do it.
Sorry for double post, but I forgot - any specific exercises you have in mind?
Few words on emotional alchemy. I feel like I'm scratching the surface of something important. I wonder what do you have to say about this.
During meditation I noticed stress and anxiety (eg. experienced the day before job interview) and sexual sensations are oddly connected. It's as if they shared a lot of the same neurotransmitters.
When you think about it, sex is a lot like stressing, almost hurting each other. It's like tingling someone or oneself. Then, the final release is scratching the build up of the itch. Stressing out about things to come utilize the same mechanism, with the only difference being the psychological context is different. So if you have an anxiety problem, a trick you can use is to start interpreting the arising stress as pleasurable itching. The horrible problem that used to stir you up becomes somewhat sexual and enjoyable in nature.
I'm wondering if it's the path to achieving nondual perception of happiness/unhappiness or merely turning anxiety into a fetish?
I'm >>2066 and I just read your post >>2061
If I were you, I think the one and only way out is to manipulate your deep-rooted beliefs about emotions that arise in you. My idea sounds ridiculous at first, especially if you're in a lot of pain, but bare with me. Pain, however bad, is painful because you perceive it as bad. There are people who have accidentally wired themselves to perceive unhappiness "incorrectly" in childhood. In most extreme cases, they become masochists.
It should give you some glimpse into what it means that all is mind.
Some less extreme example is cold showers. I read they were very healthy and so decided to experiment. At first they were painful for me, but I used magic to change the context and after a few months I'd definitely compare freezing shower to sexual pleasure. There are a lot of people who discover this stuff by accident, and then they're anxious to bring it up in social situations.
I think the only way out for you is to sit down and concentrate on your pain as it arises. Force yourself to change the context, because all is perspective. You are a slave of negative connotations you have with the word pain, that were imprinted on your neural structures since childhood. Deconstruct them. Yes, I'm telling you to become insane. This is magic. Your only enemy are feelings of doubt that will arise about what I told you. If you smile at them, and keep embracing the pain you'll transform this pain in all its intensity into the pleasure. The true hell is no emotion at all. Pain, anxiety are equal to happiness and bliss
New here, I want to prove to myself that this is real with something easy. I want to create a small object in my room somewhere.
Can someone give me a technique for creating an object?
Or if i'm being naive, could you tell me some books i should read or practices i should try related to object creating?
Right on point! I've been thinking about it today to be honest. Actually I've been masochistic as a child, if I'm already coming out with my life and whatnot I can tell this bit too. I mean, I can control pain. I was raised in a Catholic family and even though my parents weren't very orthodox, nor strict, I was. When I was a child and my sexual urges started to grow, as it is only natural, I rejected it and strived to control it.
The only way I knew how was via self-inflicted violence. Think flagellation but with a chain, also exposing my body to the extreme cold and some other fun stuff. It worked. Soon I began to control my emotions, my desires and my pain. I can definitely make myself view pain as something pleasant. The thing is… The process is kinda scary. It is a cold thing, deep inside. I was drawn to it, my entire life. To this cold nothingness. It didn't sound so cringy in my head I swear That's why I think I started doing drugs to get away from this fucking edginess because I surely don't appreciate it. If I answer this call, what will be left of me? Would it still be human?
Also, the pain isn't the worst. The worst is feeling that nothing really matters, the feeling of hopelessness. Deep down I feel that I detest this world with all my heart, but at the same time I wonder what right do I have to feel this way. The world have been very kind to me, it's not it's fault that I turned out like this.
But I think that it's only right to use whatever tools I have at my disposal. If I won't be able to sleep tonight I will try to remember this skill, of finding pleasure in pain.
Anyway, thank you, you kinda confirmed what was going through my head these past few days.
Maybe look for things about sculpture? :^)
Now for real - creating some object from thin air isn't something you could do as a beginner. If you want some sort of proof look up sigils, it's the easiest thing and brings results.
try manipulating any form of random number generator, sigils, lucid dreaming is a fun thing too
How do you remote influence a professor to make you pass an exam after it was already written?
>manifesting physical objects through the formation and accumulation of a dense cluster of mass requiring massive amounts of energy
That's not particularly easy, newfriend. Unless you want to rely on external being helping you out, you won't be able to do this out of the blue, unless you've made heaps of progress in previous lifetimes and have attained a master degree in energy work. You're better off picking something genuinely easy, such as probability manipulation, or sigil magick if you want real quick results. Though thought forming is easy as well, really.
Remember that time is not linear and that you are able to jump and shift from timelines. I have never done this, and I assume that this is no easy task. Also, I'm sure there are techniques in the 'Book of Knowledge' by anonymous that will greatly help you with this, it also covers time travel.
I have created a thought form that does exactly this. It accelerates time at workdays and slows it down at the weekends. Basically, just like any thought form creating procedure, affirm and program it with the intent that you want time slowed at X days, or whatever you deem to be fit. As long as you affirm it in the present tense. Also try to be more in the now, and be aware of what you are doing. Be keen on forming memories and recalling these. The more activities you do a day, the more memories you will have and the longer it will seem in retrospect.
Besides that, I strongly wonder if this perceived illusion of time is actually accelerating at a collective level on a global scale. Everyone notes how times seems to be going faster all the time - never slower. The other answer being related to age, of course. What does /fringe/ think?
I've told some asshole Hermetic Order of The Golden Dawn leader that his newly made course in magic is bullshit and that no one should buy it. I did this publically. Im afraid i pissed him off, what if he decides to attack me (magically)?
He puts egyptian pictures on his fb profile, put his job as rosicrucian imperator, honestly i don't like him one bit. He doesn't seem magical at all, he seems to try so hard to fit into the profile of a wizard, it starts looking like a fucking subculture, like goths or metalheads. There are a lot of people like this.
So what do i do if he actually attacks me? Im not skilled in ceremonial magic at all, not like him, if he's serious about being the master of this order.
You mean simply jumping to a timeline where I will definitely pass?
I was more thinking about some technique that will simply make my exam look better in his eyes. It's just that I am unsure if I will pass even if he is already pretty lenient.
I strongly advocate the idea to consider pain as inseparable part of pleasure. One makes the other possible. However, I get the idea you go about it the wrong way. I sense it from the way you describe things and specifically your mention of cold nothingness.
I feel like you're getting caught and being pushed astray by certain structures in your mind. The nothingness is cold for you because of your subconscious programs. For someone else it is warm. For yet someone else it's neither cold or warm. Another example, you're scared of meaninglessness. Someone else will feel not fear but great deal of joy as he observes meaningless illusions falling apart.
It's all actually very simple: Sometimes pleasure arises. Sometimes displeasure arises. That's it. You just consider and appreciate the arising displeasure. After a while your whole relationship to displeasure, and reality in general, changes.
If you go about things this way, there's no cold nothingness. There's no romanticizing of pain or pleasure. It's very important! Going out of the way to romanticize pain or experiencing a sense of superiority over others are all silly programs that everyone has to go through. But if you stay mindful, you'll go more efficiently about all this.
The correct way of going about pain or anxiety is to just let it happen.
There is a park near my home with a war memorial at the entrance. The memorial is long with skinny, square,brick columns (1x3 ) the columns are of varying heights. In the back of the park there is a tall pillar like stone with a symbol etched into it, this slab is surrounded/circled by many boulders. Are my community planners wizards or what?
Being mindful of eg. anxiety at some point causes sense of wonder and fascination, I noticed. Instead of getting hypnotized by it and getting caught in the daydream of anxiety, you become somewhat happy that you get it. I started of thinking of it as a stimulant, like a shot of coffee that my brains gives me to deal with a problem. If you start thinking about anxiety in these patterns, after some time you can get high off anxiety. Music starts to sound better. Other times I just sit and ride the waves of anxiety with tongue sticked out in concentration.
You know that feeling when you don't deal with anything sexual in nature for weeks and then you suddenly see some picture or interact with a girl? You get a pleasurable feeling that is incredibly like anxiety, or even PAIN! Yes, pain! If you dissect it well enough, it's like something stirring you, some sharp blade sinking in your chest, but in a good way. It's making you restless and increases your blood pressure, changes breathing, changes temperature of your body. Sounds like anxiety, doesn't it?
Pain, anxiety, uneasiness, all kinds of suffering are there to help you. Take them and use them, and enjoy just how bizzare this whole thing is.
*columns are also aligned in a straight line with varying space in between
I was curious if anyone knew what this was.
Your answers are very wise, thank you. But I'm not sure I am. Isn't what you write pretty much a short course in Buddhist doctrine by the way?
You also got dubs which pretty much confirms what you wrote :^)
Anyway, I went into meditation, got into light trance and started to feel pain and build it up even more and at the same time accepting it and forcing myself to take pleasure in it. Also, some "negative" (viewed from society viewpoint) emotions arose, like rage and hatred-flavored determination, but it was good, because it gave me some source of energy. Then I started some visualizations as I often do when I meditate and since I was going all out on this edgy shit and I read a bit on necromancy beforehand, I visualized a skull. It bit my lips and I was confused. It plunged me into some state of neither pleasure nor pain for a brief moment. It was about an hour ago, pain is not a problem anymore, but the restlessness remains.
>The correct way of going about pain or anxiety is to just let it happen.
You see, that's where I have problem with what you write. It is wise, and I know all of you wrote to be true. Even beside you getting dubs :^) I just don't feel ready. I didn't get into magic and stuff to be enlightened or whatever. My reasons are very low, I confess, for the time being I've only used magic for personal gain, for making my life easier and for my amusement. I want power, I want to make things happen, things that are marvelous or terrible, but magical nevertheless. That's like… the opposite of letting things happen to me!
>That's not particularly easy, newfriend. Unless you want to rely on external being helping you out
Don't you have to have really well developed astral senses to get any benefits from summoning? I haven't ever tried summoning btw
Martial arts have their effect, discipline works wonders in the mind.
But if you're not in range of some good dojo you can always do some yoga/gym in a way that it fills your empty hours.
I myself do some yoga on a mat laid on the floor of my studio every other day. I add some lunges, crouches and cardio; and walk if any trip is less than 5 km.
You shouldn't care, for what you say, he seems to be some new agy fag; when you give him the credit - even the remote chance - of harming you, you are opening the door to a lot of possibilities that involve just that. Straightforward negate that possibility.
I'm going to try to keep this question short and concise.
What exactly is aura and how can someone learn to use/master it, what can it be used for, and how does it differ from other things like energy manipulation and such?
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>Are my community planners wizards or what?
How many Freemasons still legitimately practice magic is debatable, but they do clearly have a lot of influence in the construction of both public and private structures.
If you're interested in the potential occult meanings behind the design and decoration of architecture, I suggest checking out halfasheep's channel.
Tips on grounding and on awareness?
Also before I explain my ordeal I need clarification, is being grounded also the same thing as being aware? The reason why I ask that is because I've heard both terms used in the same context. Perhaps being grounded uses awareness as a pre-requisite? If my guessing is way off then hence my confusion.
In any case I know for sure that my main problem is awareness because for some reason i feel that it is fleeting. As this problem has persisted I have made progress improving it but now I feel I need help specifically for that so I can return to a state of awareness that I am comfortable with.
Let me describe what I am dealing with right now. My awareness has dwindled to the point where I am more automatic in my movement and actions and yet I don't necessarily perceive them. I feel as if I have to constantly remind myself I'm "aware" and in the past I never had this problem. To illustrate, my awareness in the past was like an automated and continuous check where at all times I felt connected and perceiving me, my surroundings, and focused with no effort. Nowadays I feel detached like the only thing that exists is what is in front of me and sometimes it feels as if it's not there if I do not bother focusing on it. The need to use the word detached may be why I regard awareness and grounding as similar.
On the flipside I feel inexplicably unmoved by this abstract problem and even most recently I have begun to un-alarmed by most things. It feels like it would be a waste to react in a manner that is otherwise. My mood is like a blunt cheerfulness. More peculiar is that I have had no impedement in my day-to-day activities and may even be exceeding my usual performance so-to-speak. Still, what matters most to me right now is that I can effortlessly keep awareness going. Because at least that way I can free up my focus and not feel like I'm drifting into unconscious existence.
I drew it mindlessly while talking on the phone. I have no idea what its purpose is.
As I understand it, "being grounded" means being in between the two pillars of mercy and severity. Being free of polarization and free of your ego. Your ego is a part of you, but in the case of most people it's the part that makes most decisions in their lives.
One good way of grounding yourself (described by Plato or Socrates) is to defend both sides of an argument with your whole unwavering conviction.
Find someone in the morning and try to convince them to vote for Hillary Clinton. You are now a HC voter.
Find someone in the evening and try to convince them to vote for Donald Trump. You are now a Trump voter.
Now go home, have a shower and laugh at the whole thing. You're now grounded.
Do this with as many dichotomies you can identify in your daily lives. Notice how most people would give their metaphorical lives defending one side or the other. You want to escape that need. That need is dictated by the ego.
Do what you think is right, but don't get the ego involved in it.
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Sorry for the double post. I didn't finish reading your comment before answering.
You sound like you need two things: mindful meditation and getting a girlfriend or a new job. Let me explain.
Mindful meditation is pretty clear why. You need to train that ability to focus on the now, be present and aware. The second thing, getting a girlfriend, I recommend it to you because by heavily involving yourself emotionally in something you will probably snap out of that apathy. If you already have a girlfriend, look for a different job or otherwise do something that requires you to invest emotionally and personally, where failure would be painful.
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not who you were conversing with but i just wanted to say that this is an interesting way of thinking
had a talk with someone several years ago wherein i divulged to her that i felt awful for eating plants because they were beautiful and just trying to grow. i felt that eating them made me a murderer and also felt that the more compassionate choice, in some ways, would be to murder myself. made life hard because i am the chef of the household and could hardly chop basil from the garden without freaking out
anyway she informed me that my way of thinking was black and white - ie, death is evil, while life is good - and asked me to reconsider placing these value judgements on pain and pleasure, and to stop thinking that all growth is "holy" and all decomposition is "unholy". it sounds so simple but she illuminated me for a moment and now i no longer feel so wretched for consuming. i can observe the truth of this in the natural world, death and life mingle with each other, new roots under wet fall leaves.
everything is just ouroboros just swallowing itself anyway, pain and pleasure are part of the ride. feeling good isn't always healthy and feeling bad is sometimes helpful. sorry to jump in but maybe this will help somebody, i don't know. peace
I want to get into tarot cards, any experienced tarot card readers have any recommendations when it comes to picking out a deck?
Take copious amounts of niacinamide (vitamin b3) and vitamin c (like 2+grams b3, & 2-4 grams every 2-4 hours of C) for withdrawal symptoms
Ok so yesterday I was giving this a thought.
"Be self-aware" doesn't look like a clear instruction.
Step by step, you could have it like this: In just about every moment, ask yourself "Who, where, when am I?" These will be kind of constant in time "Myself, in this place and this time". At this stage their usefulness might not be clear. Then ask yourself "Why and how am I", this opens the perception to a lot of reasons usually taken for granted; this life is not taken for granted so anything in it shouldn't either.
This should come out as a reflex at some point; observe and analyze yourself. It increases the "density" of information you receive, thus increasing the "timeness" of time in your perception.
Once this is mastered, you can begin to contemplate the holographic universe around you, not only asking "Who, where, when, why and how?" but adding the "Who not, where not, when not, why not and how not?". This further expands the experience of time, and should be strengthened by visualizations and meditation, to enrich its depth.
Even the meditation around this subject should bring enlightenment of its benefits and properties, to the experience of time and being overall.
Does anyone have any experience with muscle twitches? I have a problem where my muscles will just twitch slightly out of nowhere and I don't know the cause of it. Because of it, I've developed anxiety and dread going out. I don't know if the anxiety caused the twitching, or if the twitching caused the anxiety. Any answer will be greatly appreciated.
try grounding your energy. you could do this literally by putting your bare feet on the earth and more figuratively by upping your workout routine.
i too had the anxiety shakes for years, they seemed to emanate from my solar plexus and radiate outwards, or sometimes they were localized in my legs, face etc. i read something in a castaneda book about twitches being excess energy in the astral body. some of his stuff is bunk but that little gem helped me, i started to learn to breathe through the twitches.
direct your ki through whatever spot on your body is twitching and that should "'unblock" the energy for you. nothing fancy, just use your minds eye to visualize your energy unknotting itself, and keep breathing deeply and slowly to stay calm. also be mindful of the substances you take, if any - especially caffeine
there's nothing to fear other than your own anxiety, seeker, just remind yourself that you are safe. perhaps something else is troubling you which you haven’t dealt with in conscious terms, hence the seemingly baseless anxiety
Not to be obtuse, but why are you experiencing so much anxiety over muscle twitches?
It is not the muscle twitches your anxious about, but you're fear of embarrassment or something.
Truthfully, I have no clue what could be causing muscle twitches. Spasms from low electrolytes? Who knows. They have however revealed an aspect of your ego that you want to protect. I'd take the opportunity to work on that.
Thank you for this answer. I have quit taking caffeine and sugar and I don't notice a difference in the twitching, but it has helped me in quieting my mind. I've been getting into energy work recently as well, and I sorta had this guess as well and I'll be including this into my routine. Thanks again.
Obtuse away my friend! You hit the nail with the fear of embarrassment. The anxiety comes from growing up with these twitches, and being fearful of what the other kids would think of me. I was always an outcast and wondered why I never had any friends, but I attributed it to the twitching and hated myself for it. Although now, I know better, but it's still taking me some time to recover from all those years of self hatred.
Not /fringe/ in the slightest, bit check out the audiobook version of Infinite Jest. It deals with addiction pretty fantastically. David Foster Wallace was on that dope train and is pretty aware of the hell that sobriety after experiencing the temporary nirvana state that opiates bring.
can one visit a parallel universe astrally not in the sense of universe hopping taking the place of another you but in the sense of meeting or seeing an alternate self.
I got your back anon. I have had a similar issue for most of my life. It's a tad different in that I startle incredibly easy and it is involuntary, or at least seems that way. Whenever something happens that brings me out of a state of concentration or tension (e.g. a relatively loud noise or something quickly appearing in my vision), my body jumps a little each time.
Sometimes I feel anxious about it in certain situations, but the feeling of embarrassment it causes doesn't bother me anymore. I've just learned to accept it and work on trying to fix it through intuitive, magick-based methods. Things like exercising your will over the condition, shifting your focus, stabilizing your breathing and heart-rate, are all simple things I've employed with varying degrees of effectiveness.